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TraxData 16-11-2007 11:02
VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Snippet from New Media Market 14/11/2007:

Quote:

Virgin Media's new strategy to focus on delivering broadband of higher quality at faster speeds has prompted a review of the controversial speed capping that was introduced earlier this year and a delay in launching IPTV. The so-called "throttling" of particularly heavy users - which affects five per cent of...

Druchii 16-11-2007 12:02
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Link?

Acathla 16-11-2007 12:03
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
New Media Market is subscription based I think so no link would be useful :(

Any more 'snippets' you can add TD?

HowardCanning 16-11-2007 12:35
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
:D.


If anything, my connection has performed far worse since the throttling came into play!

danielf 16-11-2007 12:37
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HowardCanning (Post 34434554)
:D.


If anything, my connection has performed far worse since the throttling came into play!
It's just a review. They may decide to make it worse :p:

TraxData 16-11-2007 12:44
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acathla (Post 34434540)
New Media Market is subscription based I think so no link would be useful :(

Any more 'snippets' you can add TD?
Cant post anymore as it would be against rules but what i can say is.

The review is based on the fact they might remove STM completely as they have found users want to use top tier packages for high bandwith p2p/networking (DUH!).

Only mentions removing it on the top tier though, and talks about the 50mbit and 100mbit packages coming 2nd Quarter 2008.

xspeedyx 16-11-2007 13:04
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
100mb lol

TraxData 16-11-2007 13:17
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34434569)
100mb lol
What's so funny? it would be through docsis3 using bonded frequencies, it would be less stressful on the network than curently having 20mbit on docsis1.

And i told you STM wasnt here to stay...

eth01 16-11-2007 13:23
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
I thought it was called Traffic Shape Management!

Quote:
Traffic management
We don't like traffic jams

Here at Virgin Media, we want all our customers to get the best service possible from their broadband. That means speedy downloads for all users – not just a few.

When someone is downloading a particularly large amount of information over a long period of time, it can slow down the internet speed for other users who might just be checking their email or browsing online. So to make sure our service is fair for everybody, we sometimes moderate the speeds during peak times (4pm till midnight) for customers who are downloading an unusually large amount at these times.

This ensures that the service doesn't get blocked up with people using more than their fair share – which means a lot fewer traffic jams on the information superhighway.
Source: http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html

:LOL:

TraxData 16-11-2007 13:24
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eth01 (Post 34434582)
If this is all 'official' then why have they used "throttling" instead of Traffic Shape Management.




:lol:

To make it look like they dont shape.

Go subscribe to New Media Market :rolleyes:

eth01 16-11-2007 13:26
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34434585)
To make it look like they dont shape.

Go subscribe to New Media Market :rolleyes:
Sorry, I re-worded the above. It didn't quite make sense. Still my point stands I guess, why don't they mention the Traffic Shape Management?! :D

TraxData 16-11-2007 13:28
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eth01 (Post 34434586)
Sorry, I re-worded the above. It didn't quite make sense. Still my point stands I guess, why don't they mention the Traffic Shape Management?! :D
Hehe, because they have finally admitted they throttle the bandwith, pretty big of VM considering the amount of crap they've done just lately :p:

Sirius 16-11-2007 13:35
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
STM subscriber traffic management

eth01 16-11-2007 13:38
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34434594)
STM subscriber traffic management
No, no. They used "throttling" not traffic management! :)

xspeedyx 16-11-2007 16:34
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
@ TD just seems funny as 20mb has only just started and dont beleive everything you read and when vm remove stm I will thank you for letting me know that it wasnt here to stay

TraxData 16-11-2007 16:36
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34434684)
@ TD just seems funny as 20mb has only just started and dont beleive everything you read and when vm remove stm I will thank you for letting me know that it wasnt here to stay
Well, i was right about them starting STM, and about STM upload trials, and im right about this as well ;)

You didnt believe me about france 100mbit symetric either lol :P

xspeedyx 16-11-2007 16:41
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
proof please about the france thing and really need to focus on tryin to prove me wrong on this forum I have my views like everyone as do you so get off my back or post should i say

TraxData 16-11-2007 16:51
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34434693)
proof please about the france thing and really need to focus on tryin to prove me wrong on this forum I have my views like everyone as do you so get off my back or post should i say
I gave you proof, you even apologised either after seeing the pages for 100mbit symetric @ 40euro/month.

Not gonna do it aain.

It's you who seems to have a thing for wanting to prove me wrong, actually.

Hugh 16-11-2007 17:04
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eth01 (Post 34434595)
No, no. They used "throttling" not traffic management! :)
No, no. The writers/editors in New Media Market used "so-called throttling". ;)

xspeedyx 16-11-2007 17:11
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Well I dont remember that so I will see it as that I never seen proof and really just smile and ig you dont like my post dont read them

TraxData 16-11-2007 17:39
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34434715)
Well I dont remember that so I will see it as that I never seen proof and really just smile and ig you dont like my post dont read them
And you obviously do not like my posts so dont post in my threads...

piggy 16-11-2007 17:42
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34434699)
I gave you proof, you even apologised either after seeing the pages for 100mbit symetric @ 40euro/month.

Not gonna do it aain.

It's you who seems to have a thing for wanting to prove me wrong, actually.
that was me:p:

xspeedyx 16-11-2007 17:47
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
apolisge TD i think is in order

TraxData 16-11-2007 17:53
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by piggy (Post 34434731)
that was me:p:
oh, well...haha -hides- :p:

Not gonna apologise tho darth as im getting bored of you in my threads always trying to go against anything i say

brundles 16-11-2007 18:13
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
If VM are prepared to offer a non shaped tier that would be good but given the 20MB struggles with traffic management I can't see it being any better without it. (Although there is the theory that it's the STM equipment itself that really messes up the connection.)

xspeedyx 16-11-2007 18:16
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
but u said something that was wrong and accused me and YOU WAS WRONG

kristoficus 19-11-2007 09:18
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Sounds like a fight I would hear from my 8 year old cousins... :rolleyes:

Now, you two obviously have some issues with each other so next time just learn to bite your tongues - you dont need to reply to every single post the other makes.

xspeedyx 19-11-2007 09:50
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
and you dont need to reply to our post do you?

chameleon789 19-11-2007 10:21
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Thankyou lord!

I can see how STM might help in some cases, but the 3 gigabyte limit on 20meg is just ridiculous. Why punish people who actually *use* their connection for the sake of those who don't?

xspeedyx 19-11-2007 10:58
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
because the network cant handle you using it 24/7 or at peak times

MovedGoalPosts 19-11-2007 11:04
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Traxdata & Dathlinux, please take your little spat to PMs. Further flaming posts are offtopic and will see warnings.

xspeedyx 19-11-2007 11:22
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
Sorry Rob

SOSAGES 19-11-2007 15:21
Re: VirginMedia Reviewing STM!
 
i dont care how fast it gets until:
A: its always that fast.
B: upload is fast
C: They have content worth getting


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