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ultimate 07-11-2007 15:08

Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
I want to ask those who use either service this:

1. I heard they traffic manage your speed if you download more than a prescribed amount, what is their limit?

2. If you are not reaching their limit, do they still "throttle" down your download speed? If so by how much? Do you have an acceptable download speed 24/7?

Thank in advance for your response. I am just fed up with VM and boiled down to these 2.

Knobbly 07-11-2007 15:16

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34429110)
I want to ask those who use either service this:

1. I heard they traffic manage your speed if you download more than a prescribed amount, what is their limit?

2. If you are not reaching their limit, do they still "throttle" down your download speed? If so by how much? Do you have an acceptable download speed 24/7?

Thank in advance for your response. I am just fed up with VM and boiled down to these 2.

Don't know about Tiscali but I'm with BT (Option 3) and I've never been throttled and I have consistent download speeds (just under 8mb) all day, every day.

piggy 07-11-2007 15:29

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
ive got a bt line with tiscali as my provider since i had my line changed about 2 years ago ive had no problems i consistently get 5.5mb 24/7 its ok for gaming but my lad would say otherwise!! i download about 40-50gb a month on average and since upgrading to there upto 8mb service i no longer get the fup emails, i cant comment on there c/s as i dont ring them my nieghbours are also with tiscali so if it goes down (rarely) i ask them and then just wait the worst was 24hrs about 6 months ago all in all a 8/10 service imo ;)

the lad is watching over my shoulder his score is 5/10 for gaming but imo no gamer is ever happy!!

TraxData 07-11-2007 15:39

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34429110)
I want to ask those who use either service this:

1. I heard they traffic manage your speed if you download more than a prescribed amount, what is their limit?

2. If you are not reaching their limit, do they still "throttle" down your download speed? If so by how much? Do you have an acceptable download speed 24/7?

Thank in advance for your response. I am just fed up with VM and boiled down to these 2.

1. Yes they traffic shape torrent downloads and any other p2p.

2. Yes, if they think you are downloading too much on that particular evening you get put on the "badboy" range even though they are supposed to give you 3 warnings beforehand.

I would note when your put on that badboy range your quite literally put on "dial up" speed, with a maximum throughput of 4kb/s.

Dont expect any sites to load during this time either because it wont happen.

piggy 07-11-2007 15:44

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34429123)
1. Yes they traffic shape torrent downloads and any other p2p.

2. Yes, if they think you are downloading too much on that particular evening you get put on the "badboy" range even though they are supposed to give you 3 warnings beforehand.

I would note when your put on that badboy range your quite literally put on "dial up" speed, with a maximum throughput of 4kb/s.

Dont expect any sites to load during this time either because it wont happen.

ive not had any of the above issues but i only d/l 40-50 gig a month

dragon 07-11-2007 18:28

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
BT do traffic shape I often get capped to around 2mbit/s evenings (i have an 8128kps sync)

although p2p gets hit a lot harder, bittorent isn't worth bothering with during peak hours. (not that that bothers me that much)

ultimate 07-11-2007 18:39

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34429229)
BT do traffic shape I often get capped to around 2mbit/s evenings (i have an 8128kps sync)

although p2p gets hit a lot harder, bittorent isn't worth bothering with during peak hours. (not that that bothers me that much)

Do you get capped because you download beyond their limit? If so what is the limit?

dragon 07-11-2007 18:49

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34429239)
Do you get capped because you download beyond their limit? If so what is the limit?

I have No idea what it is, but I'm deemed to be a heavy user so I get capped.

It's worth noting I work for BT and therefore get it free.
But they won't tell me what the limit that triggers the FUP is :td:

TraxData 07-11-2007 18:59

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy (Post 34429127)
ive not had any of the above issues but i only d/l 40-50 gig a month

Even on unlimited (with fair usage) their limit is 30gb/month (confirmed by staff)

Im talking from a rather horrible experience with tiscali...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34429243)
I have No idea what it is, but I'm deemed to be a heavy user so I get capped.

It's worth noting I work for BT and therefore get it free.
But they won't tell me what the limit that triggers the FUP is :td:

BT do not have a set limit, if they think you are using too much bandwith at a set time they will shape you.

Download over night and you dont get shaped (try it, you'll see)

dragon 07-11-2007 19:17

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34429257)
Even on unlimited (with fair usage) their limit is 30gb/month (confirmed by staff)

Im talking from a rather horrible experience with tiscali...

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BT do not have a set limit, if they think you are using too much bandwith at a set time they will shape you.

Download over night and you dont get shaped (try it, you'll see)

I sometimes do with the odd torrent (using the laptop) that I use but I don't usually leave the pc's on overnight since the desktop is in the bedroom and it keeps me awake.

TraxData 07-11-2007 19:27

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34429268)
I sometimes do with the odd torrent (using the laptop) that I use but I don't usually leave the pc's on overnight since the desktop is in the bedroom and it keeps me awake.

Guess your just one of the lucky ones then, i know alot of people who do get shaped if they attempt to torrent.

dragon 07-11-2007 19:52

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34429281)
Guess your just one of the lucky ones then, i know alot of people who do get shaped if they attempt to torrent.

I tend to avoid torrents, can't speak for everyone here though :rolleyes:

ultimate 09-11-2007 07:43

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
OK, the deed is done, I have just signed up with Tiscali 8mb, VM just does not deserve my money.

Mick Fisher 09-11-2007 14:19

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
I hope it works OK for you.

MadGamer 09-11-2007 15:03

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34430134)
OK, the deed is done, I have just signed up with Tiscali 8mb, VM just does not deserve my money.

Good luck to you, im also on the 8MB Service, and i cant begin to tell you of how many disconnections ive had. :rolleyes:

piggy 09-11-2007 15:25

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34430134)
OK, the deed is done, I have just signed up with Tiscali 8mb, VM just does not deserve my money.

welcome to the darkside!!! :p:

TraxData 09-11-2007 17:00

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34430134)
OK, the deed is done, I have just signed up with Tiscali 8mb, VM just does not deserve my money.

I really feel sorry for you.

You think VM were bad you havent seen anything.

There is a reason Tiscali is constantly voted as one of the worst isps to be with.

I hope all you do is very very light browsing otherwise enjoy the badboy ip range :)

piggy 09-11-2007 19:44

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34430390)
I really feel sorry for you.

You think VM were bad you havent seen anything.

There is a reason Tiscali is constantly voted as one of the worst isps to be with.

I hope all you do is very very light browsing otherwise enjoy the badboy ip range :)

its used 24/7 in my house everthing i need 5.5mb constant like ive said in previous threads i thought i was a heavy user but my 40-50gb monthly usage is tiny to some folks

ultimate 09-11-2007 22:05

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
My office uses Tiscali and so far I have absolutely no problem with it. Based on my personal experience I am willing to risk it. As long as I can get at least 2Mb during evenings and week ends, thats a lot better than what I get with VM. I download may be 5Gb a month.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34430390)
I really feel sorry for you.

You think VM were bad you havent seen anything.

There is a reason Tiscali is constantly voted as one of the worst isps to be with.

I hope all you do is very very light browsing otherwise enjoy the badboy ip range :)

I see where you are going with what you say, but with VM for the last 5 weeks, I don't need to do anything, not even light browsing and I have bad speeds, I think its worth a try, after all paying £25 for 4mb to me is quite expensive, esp. when I am not evening getting 4mb in the evenings.

ultimate 17-11-2007 07:35

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Tiscali has been activated now, i am happy with the speed.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/11/28.png

dragon 17-11-2007 10:31

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/11/27.png

Mine, although probably not entirely accurate depending on what the other people in the house are doing.

ultimate 17-11-2007 12:28

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Afternoon on a week end is not bad:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/11/25.png

See whats VM is like:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/11/26.png

TraxData 18-11-2007 21:37

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimate (Post 34435137)

Yea, hit the limit a few times though, VM will **** all over tiscali then.

ultimate 18-11-2007 22:50

Re: Any BT and Tiscali users here?
 
I do not do any downloads at all , and VM is crap already, if I do major downloads, and got capped, then I'd say fair cop, I won't even moan about it at all. But I do not download and got major crap speed, hence my departure. I don't think I will have any problems with Tiscali.


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