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Just for info, in case you weren't already aware, Gutsy Gibbon is released today :) |
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When's Antsy Anthropoid scheduled for? :erm:
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I believe that one is due 6 months after Zealous Zebra :D
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Cool :)
Any major changes, apart from built-in Compiz Fusion? |
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Have they fixed the issues with it locking up solid every so often and taking ages to boot compared to the last version?
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Does the shagged serverage extend to people upgrading an installation? I might dig out my old *ahem* work laptop, which has Ubuntu on at the moment.
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Power up Ubuntu then System > Administration > Update Manager It will tell you New Distribution '7.10' is available Just click 'Upgrade' then find something to do for an hour or so. Last time I used this method it seemed to take forever to upgrade. Maybe it's my PC that's not up to it or maybe my broadband is not broad enough. Nowadays when I upgrade I download the iso by torrent and wipe the partition and do a clean install. :cool: PS This is where to get the torrent from :- http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ (At the bottom of the page) |
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Pause the download (not sure if you have to do this to modify it) then right click on it and click properties, then you should get a dialogue box up, One of the tabs there allows you to add mirrors |
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I run through the upgrade this morning before work after updating existing stuff the previous night.
Downloaded the 1.3GBs in around 10 mins then froze trying to update libgcc. At lunch I killed the update processes and restarted them. Took a little while to get the version list etc and change repositories, then noted it already had the files and started to upgrade. Now when I get home, if it rebooted I'll be in SuSE 10.2 (I don't use grub/lilo in Kubuntu). Maybe tweak the relevant version of menu.lst and see what happens. |
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Downloaded the ISO tonight (don't like upgrades, much prefer to do a clean install), only to find I don't have any blank CDs left! :(
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I put a dvd-r in by mistake once burning software quite happily wrote a the ISO to it Actually it was an older ubuntu release, booted & installed fine. :Yikes: |
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Nope.
Ran out of them too. Been meaning to get some more all week, to test my new dual layer burner. Looks like I'll be buying CDs & DVDs tomorrow! |
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Just installing it!
Seems abit more polished, cd bootup was alot slower than feisty, but overall seems faster once installed, nice having compiz-fusion embedded in the OS and modified for ubuntu (speed wise) |
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Its fast, uncluttered and very easy to queue up tracks for playing I was chuffed that everything on my pc just worked out the box. :D I did run it brifely on the macbook as well even the wi-fi with WPA worked :Yikes: |
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Yep, funnily i mod it to look more like a mac, but im goin for the real thing in a few months :) FInally give in with m$ OS's, too much hassle. |
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Anyway turned off the Raid and of course vista then wouldn't boot so I thought oh well and just wiped the vista partition. I don't have a dx10 card, i spend most of the time on my pc on the internet and listing to music both of witch i can do from linux... So now i have a nice ubuntu install and an XP install for the games ;) Hopefully the soundcard i have on order will work on ubuntu I think it should. Whoops just realised I forgot to firewall my ubuntu :dunce: Well it was behind the NAT but can never be to careful, its done now. |
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I find it quite amusing vistas has only managed to put out aero which seriously lacks considering due to compiz-fusion. |
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Everything working here in Gutsy 64bit, no reason for anyone with a 64bit processor to install 32bit UBUNTU anymore, Flash, codec's, all working perfic Rodders.
Even comes with LAMPP, no need to raid the Debian suppositories for it now. Gb LAN transfers still slow though compared to Debian, other than that Gutsy is a perfect distro. |
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everything except compiz worked out of the box for me, which was a pleasant surprise compared to the previous release :)
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I used it for about 5 minutes then decided it wasn't particularly productive and did seem to hurt stablity. Had to change my backup provider since mozy lack a linux client oh well using Jungledisk now and its not tied to a particular computer or OS :-) |
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Thats the trouble with many aspects of Linux it seems......people spend only 5 minutes trying something out before writing it off as useless or unstable;) Of course though, most of the compiz-fusion plugins are nothing but fancy bells & pointless whistles there are actually some very useful plugins too but you have to spend a wee bit longer than 5 min`s discovering them,as well as all their best settings. We`ve had compiz around in it`s various guises since last August on numerous pc`s and never had any real problems with stabilty.Had issues with Emerald in Gutsy at first(3 months ago) but never really CF itself. |
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Nothings ever at the top of the "to-do" list for long eh,before getting forgotton about in place of some new enigma;) Try Enlightenment Window manager btw,you might like that more;) |
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I quite like 1 task bar With the menu.etc on particularly as my monitor is 1440x900 wide-screen. Tried enlightenment once before and wasn't that keen probably didn't take the time to configure it. Its one of those "I've got it working in a way that I like it"situations and I loathe to change anything at this particular moment apart from the odd aptitude install command when I find I'm missing something (No gimp on the default kubuntu install for instance :Yikes:) Edit: Does anyone know how to bind winkey D to minimise everything? I used xbindkeys to make winkey + L lock the pc I could probably do the same for minimise all if there was a command I could execute to do it. Other thing does anyone know of a way to monitor a logitech wireless keyboard/mouse with linux? I.e a program that can check the battery charge level. |
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Least thats what i was made to believe on ubuntuforums lol. Emerald caused a few slow issues for me in feisty, not that bothered though, quite happy with gtk2/metacity to be honest :) And cant wait to see where CF Is in 5 years. M$ might play catch up in oh about 15 years :p: |
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I got emerald almost working in kbuntu 7.10 now :p:
I say almost becase for some reason The desktop selector thing in the kicker shows twice the number of virtual desktops than I have.. i.e if i have 2 it will show 4, even more oddly 3 is a clone of 1 and 4 is a clone of 2 :confused: Other thing I couldn't get working is the cube it doesn't seem to want to show it. P.s if you manually start compiz you have to add a parameter to the command otherwise it won't acknowledge the setting from the settings app (and being on my laptop atm I can't remember what its called) |
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I know on a default 7.10 gnome install you have to go change to the desktop cube and set the desktop size to the 4.The default in Gnome is the Wall Plugin with only 2 desktops. EDIT: Quote:
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I`ve generally just left the default settings in gutsy though which has compiz starting by default,as long as your drivers are installed of course. "advanced desktop setting" is just the Compizconfig-settings manager(ccsm) |
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IF you do use ccsm then use it to make changes then close it. If you have to start/restart compiz any settings made in ccsm will be saved anyway, without having to start ccsm everytime you start compiz. If i understand you right:erm: |
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Tried to get compiz-fusion working on Kubuntu Gutsy, but I gave up. Tried Ubuntu and went pretty smoothly. A bit of a shame as I like KDE.
Now just to spend another 3 weeks configuring and learning the keys/mouse gestures. |
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Only problem I have now is cube not working but i think i need to change the number of virtual desktops @gavin you need compiz, compiz-plugins, emerald packages and it *should* work providing you have the appropriate graphics driver. I may have missed a package but i'm not sure. I can post the KDE autostart file I use to start compiz if you want... I got it from a forum. you can use k-window-decorator instead of emerald but i find it to be a tad unstable and tends to crash if you logout/login or sometimes not start... |
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i couldn't even get xgl or my card running in accelerated 3d mode (despite enabling the ati drivers) for some reason. There's bugger all support online for it as well. I might persevere with ubuntu, or try again later. I want to try and avoid installing the KDE desktop ontop of gnome as that buggered my last install.
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I installed the kubuntu package on ubutnu before without incident. Although not tried both gnome and kde on the present version. |
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i just used apt-get kde-desktop or whatever the packages were. I followed a guide. It was a nightmare getting beryl and xgl to work with KDE, and then after that the gnome and KDE applications were together.
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As for why the ATI driver didn't work on kubuntu afarid I don't know why that was. |
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I've already screwed up the install though. You can see here if anyone has any idea how to fix it and is quicker than the UF folks :) |
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Installed today.
Good, so far. Read/write access by default to my Windows partitions, too, which is new. 7.04 auto-mounted them, but read only. (& I think 6.10 didn't even see them, so I had to edit fstab myself). Doesn't auto-mount my USB2 HDD though, which is strange. Neither did 7.04. Yet with 6.10, I had no problems with it... Still need to sort out Compiz Fusion. I'm using fglrx, so AFAIK I have to install xgl to use Compiz (doesn't work under aiglx using the restricted ATI driver). |
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Installed xgl. Little info thing popped up, to inform me that there's no longer any need to mess around creating a separate xgl session :) So it was simply a matter of installing xgl, rebooting, & then enabling the effects :) |
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I am having problem with Ethernet, it worked fine in the previous version, however this will just NOT talk to the router, even the light doesn't light up, the driver is installed and configured but it just refuses!
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Still running a perfect 6.10 edgy setup with fluxbox/compiz/beryl updates from latest SVN repositories.
So why upgrade when things are running so perfectly ? I tend to upgrade fully when there have been major glibc changes, so maybe in a couple of years :) |
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Upgrade or clean install i have that "roaming mode" enabled and always have to change to DHCP before getting a connection. |
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Only 2 problems I have come across with the 64bit version,
Gb LAN appears to be running half-duplex (apparently this is something which can't be fixed with the config settings, yet!) but jumbo/extended frames are working OK. Under compiz when playing a podcast from disk and browsing, Firefox goes into grey mode and hangs after some time, looks like a memory problem but the system monitor doesn't show anything abnormal. Turning compix off fixes the Firefox problem and puts the system into turbo drive, I think I prefer the speed boost to the special effects. :) |
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Well, I tried the Live CD of the 32bit version last night, & it was definitely... Linuxy. :D Had a bit of a fiddle with various things, & discovered that Solitaire is just as addictive on Linux. :disturbd: Wasn't able to change to 1024x768 [it defaulted to 1280x1024], presumably because you can't use the restricted ATI drivers unless you're running Linux from the HDD instead of a Live CD [installation of them required a reboot]. I did try to change the resolution to 1024x768, but ended up with a grey background & an X shaped cursor, & nothing else. Fortunately it asked if I wanted to keep those settings & I said no, & it reverted back to the way it was before.
I think I may actually install it on a partition somewhere, but before that I need to shuffle some stuff around, & also want to have a go at XP 64. As for installing Ubuntu, what's the safest method? Should I create some unformatted partitions with Partition Manager 7 in Windows & then just tell Ubuntu to use them [the last time I tried installing Linux it wanted 3 partitions], or just leave some empty unpartitioned space & tell Ubuntu's setup to use that? |
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If you dont want to be fiddling around then the safest way(imo) would probably be to just leave whatever space you want to allocate to Ubuntu unallocated and just point the installer to the "largest continuous free space" during partitioning.
Let it do the work;) If your resizing current Windows partitions remember and defrag a good couple of times |
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First of all, my apologies to whoever else replied after my last post, as I can't respond to it because for some reason it's not showing up. I can see Xpod's post, but I know [from seeing it in Mailwasher] that someone else replied. Something about partitions, I think. I can't check MailWasher's recycle bin for the details of the post as it [MailWasher] went a bit funny & decided not to log the last few hours of emails, & I didn't copy the new reply to topic email as I didn't think I had a reason to.
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A little follow up...
I got fed up with using Gnome and installed KDE. Wasn't totally smooth. The titlebars disappeared so I manually installed emerald and added it (and compiz) to start up. The only unresolved issue is the shutdown buttons are missing, but this is a long running issue with a work around. |
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If you prefer KDE, wouldn't you be better off with Kubuntu?
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Hi Alien
Sorry for the confusion.:blush: It was my post about partitions. I deleted it when I saw Xpod's post, his is probably the most straightforward way to install Ubuntu. If you do let Ubuntu have all the remaining space, you can easily shrink it down later and make another partition to use for something else if you like. (using Partition Manager or Ubuntu's 'gParted' utility). In my deleted post I said that Ubuntu would set up 2 partitions in that space. One for Ubuntu proper and one for Ubuntu swap. The swap partition does what the page file does in Windows. It's often set at 1.5 times RAM, but that value isn't critical. :cool: |
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I always put root & home on separate partitions, then you can reinstall if you bork the OS without losing your personal configuration files & data...
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I always have two drives and always have the latest stable Ubuntu on one drive with some of the bigger slave drive usually given over to the next release, after a few months in. Anytime i re-install on one drive i always get my main settings & stuff transfered from the other and anything else worth keeping is in the nfs share elsewhere now anyway.. Separate home is definetly a good idea though. EDIT:if you know your way round the partitioning routine anyway. |
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Hi Alien
1) You can give Ubuntu the whole 102GB to start with, then use the partition tools to take 80GB back later, It's up to you though. 2) The third one is the separate 'home' partition that Cobbydaler suggested. That's not really necessary for your first try with Ubuntu. But you decide. 3) No, not 6GB for swap. That's why I said the value isn't critical. In practice you might not do any swapping at all. But if you are given a choice then plump for between 512MB and 1GB. Even if you never use it, you won't miss 1GB from a whopping big hard drive.:p: :cool: |
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When you are all done you will want some free games no doubt. :)
Penguinracer, used to be called TuxRacer, is in the repo's and here is a list of a few more http://www2.linuxjournal.com/node/1000435 If you want a brilliant label program install glabel, it has templates for printing every label known to man. |
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Its actually Partially KDE with the Edge 1.5 theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show...?content=67383 But also the titlebars.etc are actually managed by Emerald with the theme "simple & nice" rather than the K window decorator. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/sh...?content=62864 The background was my previous background from my windows install and I can't actually remember where I got it from :( |
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Well downloaded the ISO - tested it - wiped the partition with XP and then tried to install it and all I get get is my monitor saying it can't display that video mode.
Tried it with different video modes and in safe mode but no dice. :( |
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When are you getting this message,after you reboot into your fresh installation i assume. What video card do you have and how are you trying the differnt modes?? By logging out to a terminal i`m assuming:) - Hit control-alt-F1..log in? - type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - Accept all defaults except driver... choose the safe VESA driver for now mabey? - Hit control-alt-F7 - Hit control-alt-delete Sorry if you`ve tried all that as you seem to be saying? |
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Right at the very end of the installation Alien the Grub setup will detect any other OS`s and will have them listed in a text style menu(grub) at boot up.
Ubuntu will be top of the list & will start automatically but you will have a set amount of time to choose XP instead if you prefer.Of course you can also alter your menu.lst to make XP start automatically, if you so prefer......tch:rolleyes: :D You will still have your bios screen and the grub one will follow directly afterwards. The whole concept of different window managers etc can be completely alien at first but i would just concentrate on plain ole k/Ubuntu at first and forget about the bells & whilstles until you get a feel for the basics. EDIT:Of course CompizF itself comes by default and will be up & running as soon as you install your drivers.Unless you have some older ATI one that plays nice with the default drivers & CF. |
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You did`nt mention what video card you had but mabey trying an alternate cd might help.It`s just a text based installer with no live environment though so you cant "try" before you buy as it were. I always use them myself. You could try some of the numerous boot options here mabey. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions EDIT What hardware are you using...that might help somebody to help you:) |
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I'm using a PNY Verto Geforce 6600GT.
I'm getting as far as the screen shown in the link you gave xpod but after that I get the loading scroll bar then once that fills all the way up I just get the message my monitor generates. Even if I change the resolution option on the first screen. :( P.S. I meant tested eh CD had burnt correctly :) |
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My young daughter just puked on me & my keyboard though ...thats my excuse anyway:) That would have just got us loading the safe driver on your installation......which you dont have of course and choosing safe mode when just booting the live cd is doing that anyway. |
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:dunce:sorry Too many young women in my ears atm.......i`m not paying attention where it counts apparently:disturbd: @Shaun...If you know you are going to install then i`d try that alternate cd,it will aviod any graphics issues till you at least get an installation to work with. Live environments dont always play ball,even with compatible hardware. ---------- Post added at 21:27 ---------- Previous post was at 21:16 ---------- WTF?? Ok what happened to the forum there and why did everyones details beneath their avatars suddenly go a bit silly for a few seconds.:confused: Somebody having fun:) |
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Thank you oh helpful one:D Attachment 15197 |
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I've seen weirder than that happen, but it's kinda hard to describe. The next time it happens I'll try & remember to grab a screenshot. :) |
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EDIT: On topic: I keep getting caught out by the fact KDE reopens whatever apps you had open when you shutdown |
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Go into the KDE control centre --> KDE Components --> Session Manager & select On Login Start with an empty session Anything you want to always start on login put a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
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Unless I'm playing a game or something (in which case i'd probably be in windows anyway) most of the stuff that pops up is stuff I'm using all the time anyway (i usually have thunderbird/firefox/pidgin/amerok open anyway... Its only when I leave several directories open.etc and forget to close them that its a bit of a pain. |
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Just had a quick go of ubuntu on my server - everything spot on, except the title text on every window insists on being ~150 point, despite me telling it anything otherwise. How irritating... anyone got any ideas what's up?
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Does it have a gfx card?have you installed drivers?? Can you mabey take a screenshot because i`m not sure i fully understand myself... sorry.:confused: What have you told Ubuntu and how did you tell it whatever you told it??? |
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Got a few updates through and now the 64bit version of UBUNTU is almost perfect, running full compiz with no problem now, just one issue remains, SAMBA file transfers with a Gb card are half the speed of Debian with the same setup. Config says that card is running 1,000Mb Full Duplex so don't know what the problem can be.
Overall, this has to be the best 64bit desktop OS available, running Flash and Multi-Media since the update has resulted in no problems. Unlike openSUSE, UBUNTU applications are all 64bitis. Is there any reason to run 32bit UBUNTU on a 64bit chip, not any more. |
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If that doesn't help, i'll post a screenshot later. ta :) |
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