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Gareth 17-10-2007 23:51

Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon Released Today
 
http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdow...wn_default.png

Just for info, in case you weren't already aware, Gutsy Gibbon is released today :)

Cobbydaler 18-10-2007 06:20

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When's Antsy Anthropoid scheduled for? :erm:

Gareth 18-10-2007 13:21

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I believe that one is due 6 months after Zealous Zebra :D

Alien 18-10-2007 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34416853)
Just for info, in case you weren't already aware, Gutsy Gibbon is released today :)

Looks like the servers are getting seriously thrashed. I managed to grab the torrent files for both the 32 & 64bit desktop ISOs though, & have put them on my webspace incase anyone else has trouble getting them:
ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34416877)
When's Antsy Anthropoid scheduled for? :erm:

Given how popular Ubuntu seems to be, I was thinking Proud Penguin might be more appropriate. :)

Tezcatlipoca 18-10-2007 22:17

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Cool :)

Any major changes, apart from built-in Compiz Fusion?

Chicken 18-10-2007 22:49

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Have they fixed the issues with it locking up solid every so often and taking ages to boot compared to the last version?

Graham M 18-10-2007 23:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken (Post 34417524)
Have they fixed the issues with it locking up solid every so often and taking ages to boot compared to the last version?

Never had that?!

dragon 19-10-2007 08:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34417134)
Looks like the servers are getting seriously thrashed. I managed to grab the torrent files for both the 32 & 64bit desktop ISOs though, & have put them on my webspace incase anyone else has trouble getting them:
ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent


Given how popular Ubuntu seems to be, I was thinking Proud Penguin might be more appropriate. :)

Download manager connect to multiple mirrors to pull the file off maxing my line quite nicely :)

Knobbly 19-10-2007 08:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken (Post 34417524)
Have they fixed the issues with it locking up solid every so often and taking ages to boot compared to the last version?

No, still takes a lot longer than the previous version to boot and it locked up twice last night for no reason, they also haven't integrated bcm4xxx wireless firmware yet so it's still a pita getting most wireless PCMCIA cards running.

BBKing 19-10-2007 11:52

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Does the shagged serverage extend to people upgrading an installation? I might dig out my old *ahem* work laptop, which has Ubuntu on at the moment.

ronald146m 19-10-2007 12:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34417789)
Does the shagged serverage extend to people upgrading an installation?

Yep
Power up Ubuntu then
System > Administration > Update Manager

It will tell you
New Distribution '7.10' is available

Just click 'Upgrade' then find something to do for an hour or so.

Last time I used this method it seemed to take forever to upgrade. Maybe it's my PC that's not up to it or maybe my broadband is not broad enough.

Nowadays when I upgrade I download the iso by torrent and wipe the partition and do a clean install.
:cool:

PS This is where to get the torrent from :- http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
(At the bottom of the page)

Alien 19-10-2007 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34417643)
Download manager connect to multiple mirrors to pull the file off maxing my line quite nicely :)

The download manager [Orbit] I use doesn't seem to have that capability. Managed to get the ISOs I wanted via torrent though. :)

dragon 19-10-2007 14:35

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Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34417860)
The download manager [Orbit] I use doesn't seem to have that capability. Managed to get the ISOs I wanted via torrent though. :)

Yes it does, they just didn't make it easy to find ;)

Pause the download (not sure if you have to do this to modify it) then right click on it and click properties, then you should get a dialogue box up, One of the tabs there allows you to add mirrors

tweetiepooh 19-10-2007 15:55

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I run through the upgrade this morning before work after updating existing stuff the previous night.

Downloaded the 1.3GBs in around 10 mins then froze trying to update libgcc. At lunch I killed the update processes and restarted them. Took a little while to get the version list etc and change repositories, then noted it already had the files and started to upgrade. Now when I get home, if it rebooted I'll be in SuSE 10.2 (I don't use grub/lilo in Kubuntu). Maybe tweak the relevant version of menu.lst and see what happens.

Alien 19-10-2007 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34417908)
Yes it does, they just didn't make it easy to find ;)

Pause the download (not sure if you have to do this to modify it) then right click on it and click properties, then you should get a dialogue box up, One of the tabs there allows you to add mirrors

:tu: Thanks, I hadn't noticed that. It seems you could add mirrors even before the download starts as well [click the More button, then the Mirror tab], but if the dialogue had been activated by IE/Maxthon then you'd need to have the list of URLs handy, as it won't let you do anything with the browser window until you've closed that dialogue. That doesn't apply if you manually create a new download in Orbit though.

dragon 19-10-2007 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34417980)
:tu: Thanks, I hadn't noticed that. It seems you could add mirrors even before the download starts as well [click the More button, then the Mirror tab], but if the dialogue had been activated by IE/Maxthon then you'd need to have the list of URLs handy, as it won't let you do anything with the browser window until you've closed that dialogue. That doesn't apply if you manually create a new download in Orbit though.

Same here with firefox, took me a moment to figure out how to add mirrors, they don't make it all that obvious found it by chance.

Tezcatlipoca 19-10-2007 20:37

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Downloaded the ISO tonight (don't like upgrades, much prefer to do a clean install), only to find I don't have any blank CDs left! :(

dragon 19-10-2007 20:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34418115)
Downloaded the ISO tonight (don't like upgrades, much prefer to do a clean install), only to find I don't have any blank CDs left! :(

Got any Dvds?

I put a dvd-r in by mistake once burning software quite happily wrote a the ISO to it
Actually it was an older ubuntu release, booted & installed fine. :Yikes:

Tezcatlipoca 19-10-2007 21:01

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Nope.

Ran out of them too.

Been meaning to get some more all week, to test my new dual layer burner.

Looks like I'll be buying CDs & DVDs tomorrow!

dragon 19-10-2007 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34418136)
Nope.

Ran out of them too.

Been meaning to get some more all week, to test my new dual layer burner.

Looks like I'll be buying CDs & DVDs tomorrow!

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TraxData 19-10-2007 21:49

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Just installing it!

Seems abit more polished, cd bootup was alot slower than feisty, but overall seems faster once installed, nice having compiz-fusion embedded in the OS and modified for ubuntu (speed wise)

dragon 19-10-2007 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34418165)
Just installing it!

Seems abit more polished, cd bootup was alot slower than feisty, but overall seems faster once installed, nice having compiz-fusion embedded in the OS and modified for ubuntu (speed wise)

amarok is great dunno how i missed that before when i was playing with debian.

Its fast, uncluttered and very easy to queue up tracks for playing

I was chuffed that everything on my pc just worked out the box. :D
I did run it brifely on the macbook as well even the wi-fi with WPA worked :Yikes:

TraxData 19-10-2007 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34418166)
amarok is great dunno how i missed that before when i was playing with debian.

Its fast, uncluttered and very easy to queue up tracks for playing

I was chuffed that everything on my pc just worked out the box. :D
I did run it brifely on the macbook as well even the wi-fi with WPA worked :Yikes:

Amarok is the best audio player around imo, even gonna be a windows port sometime over the next year!

Yep, funnily i mod it to look more like a mac, but im goin for the real thing in a few months :)

FInally give in with m$ OS's, too much hassle.

dragon 19-10-2007 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34418169)
Amarok is the best audio player around imo, even gonna be a windows port sometime over the next year!

Yep, funnily i mod it to look more like a mac, but im goin for the real thing in a few months :)

FInally give in with m$ OS's, too much hassle.

Actually I did, Wanted to install XP to play freelancer of course it doesn't like the Sata RAID enabled (BSOD unless you have the satadriver load on xp setup)

Anyway turned off the Raid and of course vista then wouldn't boot so I thought oh well and just wiped the vista partition.

I don't have a dx10 card, i spend most of the time on my pc on the internet and listing to music both of witch i can do from linux...

So now i have a nice ubuntu install and an XP install for the games ;)

Hopefully the soundcard i have on order will work on ubuntu I think it should.

Whoops just realised I forgot to firewall my ubuntu :dunce:
Well it was behind the NAT but can never be to careful, its done now.

TraxData 19-10-2007 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34418171)
Actually I did, Wanted to install XP to play freelancer of course it doesn't like the Sata RAID enabled (BSOD unless you have the satadriver load on xp setup)

Anyway turned off the Raid and of course vista then wouldn't boot so I thought oh well and just wiped the vista partition.

I don't have a dx10 card, i spend most of the time on my pc on the internet and listing to music both of witch i can do from linux...

So now i have a nice ubuntu install and an XP install for the games ;)

Hopefully the soundcard i have on order will work on ubuntu I think it should.

Whoops just realised I forgot to firewall my ubuntu :dunce:
Well it was behind the NAT but can never be to careful, its done now.

Pretty much same here, dont game on the PC so XP has finally gone bye byes for good.

I find it quite amusing vistas has only managed to put out aero which seriously lacks considering due to compiz-fusion.

slowcoach 20-10-2007 03:03

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Everything working here in Gutsy 64bit, no reason for anyone with a 64bit processor to install 32bit UBUNTU anymore, Flash, codec's, all working perfic Rodders.
Even comes with LAMPP, no need to raid the Debian suppositories for it now.
Gb LAN transfers still slow though compared to Debian, other than that Gutsy is a perfect distro.

xpod 20-10-2007 09:52

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Quote:

I find it quite amusing vistas has only managed to put out aero which seriously lacks considering due to compiz-fusion.
Just imagine what they will have done with CF in say ......5 years;)

bmxbandit 20-10-2007 10:16

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everything except compiz worked out of the box for me, which was a pleasant surprise compared to the previous release :)

dragon 20-10-2007 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418311)
Just imagine what they will have done with CF in say ......5 years;)

Stopped it crashing kwindowmanager?
I used it for about 5 minutes then decided it wasn't particularly productive and did seem to hurt stablity.

Had to change my backup provider since mozy lack a linux client oh well using Jungledisk now and its not tied to a particular computer or OS :-)

xpod 20-10-2007 10:48

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Quote:

Stopped it crashing kwindowmanager?
I used it for about 5 minutes then decided it wasn't particularly productive and did seem to hurt stablity.
EH????....Thats no like you to only devote 5 mins to something Linux:p:
Thats the trouble with many aspects of Linux it seems......people spend only 5 minutes trying something out before writing it off as useless or unstable;)

Of course though, most of the compiz-fusion plugins are nothing but fancy bells & pointless whistles there are actually some very useful plugins too but you have to spend a wee bit longer than 5 min`s discovering them,as well as all their best settings.
We`ve had compiz around in it`s various guises since last August on numerous pc`s and never had any real problems with stabilty.Had issues with Emerald in Gutsy at first(3 months ago) but never really CF itself.

dragon 20-10-2007 11:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418336)
EH????....Thats no like you to only devote 5 mins to something Linux:p:
Thats the trouble with many aspects of Linux it seems......people spend only 5 minutes trying something out before writing it off as useless or unstable;)

Of course though, most of the compiz-fusion plugins are nothing but fancy bells & pointless whistles there are actually some very useful plugins too but you have to spend a wee bit longer than 5 min`s discovering them,as well as all their best settings.
We`ve had compiz around in it`s various guises since last August on numerous pc`s and never had any real problems with stabilty.Had issues with Emerald in Gutsy at first(3 months ago) but never really CF itself.

sorting out the compiz settings.etc one of those things that I've put on the old to-do list, Problem is other things keep making their way onto the list above it ;)

xpod 20-10-2007 11:49

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Quote:

sorting out the compiz settings.etc one of those things that I've put on the old to-do list, Problem is other things keep making their way onto the list above it
lol...........Now that sounds familiar.
Nothings ever at the top of the "to-do" list for long eh,before getting forgotton about in place of some new enigma;)

Try Enlightenment Window manager btw,you might like that more;)

dragon 20-10-2007 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418368)
lol...........Now that sounds familiar.
Nothings ever at the top of the "to-do" list for long eh,before getting forgotton about in place of some new enigma;)

Try Enlightenment Window manager btw,you might like that more;)

Dunno I find the KDE layout suits me quite well being mainly a windows user in the past.

I quite like 1 task bar With the menu.etc on particularly as my monitor is 1440x900 wide-screen.


Tried enlightenment once before and wasn't that keen probably didn't take the time to configure it. Its one of those "I've got it working in a way that I like it"situations and I loathe to change anything at this particular moment apart from the odd aptitude install command when I find I'm missing something (No gimp on the default kubuntu install for instance :Yikes:)

Edit:
Does anyone know how to bind winkey D to minimise everything?
I used xbindkeys to make winkey + L lock the pc
I could probably do the same for minimise all if there was a command I could execute to do it.

Other thing does anyone know of a way to monitor a logitech wireless keyboard/mouse with linux?
I.e a program that can check the battery charge level.

TraxData 20-10-2007 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418336)
EH????....Thats no like you to only devote 5 mins to something Linux:p:
Thats the trouble with many aspects of Linux it seems......people spend only 5 minutes trying something out before writing it off as useless or unstable;)

Of course though, most of the compiz-fusion plugins are nothing but fancy bells & pointless whistles there are actually some very useful plugins too but you have to spend a wee bit longer than 5 min`s discovering them,as well as all their best settings.
We`ve had compiz around in it`s various guises since last August on numerous pc`s and never had any real problems with stabilty.Had issues with Emerald in Gutsy at first(3 months ago) but never really CF itself.

How? as far as im aware emerald doesnt work in gutsy yet?

Least thats what i was made to believe on ubuntuforums lol.

Emerald caused a few slow issues for me in feisty, not that bothered though, quite happy with gtk2/metacity to be honest :)

And cant wait to see where CF Is in 5 years.

M$ might play catch up in oh about 15 years :p:

xpod 20-10-2007 16:10

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How? as far as im aware emerald doesnt work in gutsy yet?

Least thats what i was made to believe on ubuntuforums lol.

Emerald caused a few slow issues for me in feisty, not that bothered though, quite happy with gtk2/metacity to be honest

And cant wait to see where CF Is in 5 years.

M$ might play catch up in oh about 15 years
Today 13:06
You can install emerald itself just fine from synaptic but as you`ll see theres no emerald themes in there but...If you go here though,you can quite easily install a deb,which should work fine.:)

dragon 20-10-2007 16:33

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I got emerald almost working in kbuntu 7.10 now :p:

I say almost becase for some reason The desktop selector thing in the kicker shows twice the number of virtual desktops than I have..

i.e if i have 2 it will show 4, even more oddly 3 is a clone of 1 and 4 is a clone of 2 :confused:


Other thing I couldn't get working is the cube it doesn't seem to want to show it.

P.s if you manually start compiz you have to add a parameter to the command otherwise it won't acknowledge the setting from the settings app (and being on my laptop atm I can't remember what its called)

xpod 20-10-2007 16:42

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Quote:

I got emerald almost working in kbuntu 7.10 now

I say almost becase for some reason The desktop selector thing in the kicker shows twice the number of virtual desktops than I have..

i.e if i have 2 it will show 4, even more oddly 3 is a clone of 1 and 4 is a clone of 2


Other thing I couldn't get working is the cube it doesn't seem to want to show it.

P.s if you manually start compiz you have to add a parameter to the command otherwise it won't acknowledge the setting from the settings app (and being on my laptop atm I can't remember what its called)
Really not too sure about kubuntu....it`s been soo long;)
I know on a default 7.10 gnome install you have to go change to the desktop cube and set the desktop size to the 4.The default in Gnome is the Wall Plugin with only 2 desktops.

EDIT:
Quote:

P.s if you manually start compiz you have to add a parameter to the command otherwise it won't acknowledge the setting from the settings app (and being on my laptop atm I can't remember what its called)
I can manually start compiz using ALT-f2 with just "compiz --replace" and it`s starting emerald too

dragon 20-10-2007 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418530)
Really not too sure about kubuntu....it`s been soo long;)
I know on a default 7.10 gnome install you have to go change to the desktop cube and set the desktop size to the 4.The default in Gnome is the Wall Plugin with only 2 desktops.

EDIT:

I can manually start compiz using ALT-f2 with just "compiz --replace" and it`s starting emerald too

Theres something between teh compiz and the --replace that then tells it to load the config settings from the settings manager thingy (for which I cannot remember the name it shows in the settings menu as "advanced desktop settings" it starts with c i think.

xpod 20-10-2007 17:36

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Quote:

Theres something between teh compiz and the --replace that then tells it to load the config settings from the settings manager thingy (for which I cannot remember the name it shows in the settings menu as "advanced desktop settings" it starts with c i think.
The only thing i ever have between teh compiz and the --replace is a space;)
I`ve generally just left the default settings in gutsy though which has compiz starting by default,as long as your drivers are installed of course.

"advanced desktop setting" is just the Compizconfig-settings manager(ccsm)

dragon 20-10-2007 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418563)
The only thing i ever have between teh compiz and the --replace is a space;)
I`ve generally just left the default settings in gutsy though which has compiz starting by default,as long as your drivers are installed of course.

"advanced desktop setting" is just the Compizconfig-settings manager(ccsm)

"compiz ccsm --replace" i think it is either that or compiz --replace ccsm

xpod 20-10-2007 18:19

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Quote:

"compiz ccsm --replace" i think it is either that or compiz --replace ccsm
Never known that one.
IF you do use ccsm then use it to make changes then close it.
If you have to start/restart compiz any settings made in ccsm will be saved anyway, without having to start ccsm everytime you start compiz.
If i understand you right:erm:

punky 20-10-2007 18:43

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Tried to get compiz-fusion working on Kubuntu Gutsy, but I gave up. Tried Ubuntu and went pretty smoothly. A bit of a shame as I like KDE.

Now just to spend another 3 weeks configuring and learning the keys/mouse gestures.

dragon 20-10-2007 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34418606)
Tried to get compiz-fusion working on Kubuntu Gutsy, but I gave up. Tried Ubuntu and went pretty smoothly. A bit of a shame as I like KDE.

Now just to spend another 3 weeks configuring and learning the keys/mouse gestures.

It does work (mostly).

---------- Post added at 20:25 ---------- Previous post was at 20:18 ----------

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Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418591)
Never known that one.
IF you do use ccsm then use it to make changes then close it.
If you have to start/restart compiz any settings made in ccsm will be saved anyway, without having to start ccsm everytime you start compiz.
If i understand you right:erm:

If you don't put ccsm in the command compiz just loads its deafult settings instead of the ones set by ccsm it doens't actually start ccsm or anything.

Only problem I have now is cube not working but i think i need to change the number of virtual desktops

@gavin you need compiz, compiz-plugins, emerald packages and it *should* work providing you have the appropriate graphics driver.

I may have missed a package but i'm not sure.

I can post the KDE autostart file I use to start compiz if you want... I got it from a forum.

you can use k-window-decorator instead of emerald but i find it to be a tad unstable and tends to crash if you logout/login or sometimes not start...

punky 20-10-2007 19:27

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i couldn't even get xgl or my card running in accelerated 3d mode (despite enabling the ati drivers) for some reason. There's bugger all support online for it as well. I might persevere with ubuntu, or try again later. I want to try and avoid installing the KDE desktop ontop of gnome as that buggered my last install.

dragon 20-10-2007 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34418627)
i couldn't even get xgl or my card running in accelerated 3d mode (despite enabling the ati drivers) for some reason. There's bugger all support online for it as well. I might persevere with ubuntu, or try again later. I want to try and avoid installing the KDE desktop ontop of gnome as that buggered my last install.

how did you install it last time.

I installed the kubuntu package on ubutnu before without incident.
Although not tried both gnome and kde on the present version.

punky 20-10-2007 20:40

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i just used apt-get kde-desktop or whatever the packages were. I followed a guide. It was a nightmare getting beryl and xgl to work with KDE, and then after that the gnome and KDE applications were together.

dragon 20-10-2007 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34418646)
i just used apt-get kde-desktop or whatever the packages were. I followed a guide. It was a nightmare getting beryl and xgl to work with KDE, and then after that the gnome and KDE applications were together.

there Is (or at least was) a kubuntu meta package that sets up KDE on ubuntu properly.

As for why the ATI driver didn't work on kubuntu afarid I don't know why that was.

xpod 20-10-2007 21:04

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Quote:

Now just to spend another 3 weeks configuring and learning the keys/mouse gestures.
Today 19:19
Only two mouse gestures i use are "top left" for expo and "top right" for scale.

Quote:

i couldn't even get xgl or my card running in accelerated 3d mode (despite enabling the ati drivers) for some reason. There's bugger all support online for it as well. I might persevere with ubuntu, or try again later. I want to try and avoid installing the KDE desktop ontop of gnome as that buggered my last install.
We have an older ATi Radeon 7000 in my girls machine there and the default ati drivers work fine with compiz.Dont have to do a thing other than install Ubuntu

punky 20-10-2007 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34418655)
We have an older ATi Radeon 7000 in my girls machine there and the default ati drivers work fine with compiz.Dont have to do a thing other than install Ubuntu

Gave me a "no composite extension" when I tried it. Installed xgl and it worked.

I've already screwed up the install though. You can see here if anyone has any idea how to fix it and is quicker than the UF folks :)

Tezcatlipoca 20-10-2007 21:57

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Installed today.

Good, so far.

Read/write access by default to my Windows partitions, too, which is new. 7.04 auto-mounted them, but read only. (& I think 6.10 didn't even see them, so I had to edit fstab myself).

Doesn't auto-mount my USB2 HDD though, which is strange. Neither did 7.04. Yet with 6.10, I had no problems with it...



Still need to sort out Compiz Fusion.

I'm using fglrx, so AFAIK I have to install xgl to use Compiz (doesn't work under aiglx using the restricted ATI driver).

Alien 20-10-2007 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34418683)
Gave me a "no composite extension" when I tried it. Installed xgl and it worked.

I've already screwed up the install though. You can see here if anyone has any idea how to fix it and is quicker than the UF folks :)

Just a thought, but what ATI card are you running? I only ask because I think Dilli said something to me the other week about issues between Linux & ATI cards more recent than the X8xx series.

Tezcatlipoca 20-10-2007 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34418688)
I'm using fglrx, so AFAIK I have to install xgl to use Compiz (doesn't work under aiglx using the restricted ATI driver).


Installed xgl.


Little info thing popped up, to inform me that there's no longer any need to mess around creating a separate xgl session :)


So it was simply a matter of installing xgl, rebooting, & then enabling the effects :)

punky 20-10-2007 23:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34418702)
Just a thought, but what ATI card are you running? I only ask because I think Dilli said something to me the other week about issues between Linux & ATI cards more recent than the X8xx series.

X1600XT. Seemed to work fine before enabling dual monitors.

bluecandylover 21-10-2007 00:40

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I am having problem with Ethernet, it worked fine in the previous version, however this will just NOT talk to the router, even the light doesn't light up, the driver is installed and configured but it just refuses!

The Jackal 21-10-2007 01:16

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Still running a perfect 6.10 edgy setup with fluxbox/compiz/beryl updates from latest SVN repositories.

So why upgrade when things are running so perfectly ?

I tend to upgrade fully when there have been major glibc changes, so maybe in a couple of years :)

dragon 21-10-2007 08:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecandylover (Post 34418742)
I am having problem with Ethernet, it worked fine in the previous version, however this will just NOT talk to the router, even the light doesn't light up, the driver is installed and configured but it just refuses!

open a terminal
sudo ifconfig

Does it show up there?

Should look a bit like this...

Quote:

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:19:D1:EA:30:70
inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::219:d1ff:feea:3070/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:4728 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:4200 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:3839603 (3.6 MB) TX bytes:858566 (838.4 KB)
Base address:0xecc0 Memory:dffe0000-e0000000
If its showing up but is inactive try

sudo ifconfig eth0 up

(change eth0 to whatever it shows up as)

xpod 21-10-2007 09:59

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Quote:

Still running a perfect 6.10 edgy setup with fluxbox/compiz/beryl updates from latest SVN repositories.

So why upgrade when things are running so perfectly ?

I tend to upgrade fully when there have been major glibc changes, so maybe in a couple of years
Ahhhh 6.10........such fond memories:D
Christ though,dont time fly when your enjoying yourself:shocked:

Quote:

I am having problem with Ethernet, it worked fine in the previous version, however this will just NOT talk to the router, even the light doesn't light up, the driver is installed and configured but it just refuses!
Have you been into your network applet in the menus and made sure your network card is set as appropriate...ie DHCP?
Upgrade or clean install i have that "roaming mode" enabled and always have to change to DHCP before getting a connection.

slowcoach 22-10-2007 16:10

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Only 2 problems I have come across with the 64bit version,
Gb LAN appears to be running half-duplex (apparently this is something which can't be fixed with the config settings, yet!) but jumbo/extended frames are working OK.
Under compiz when playing a podcast from disk and browsing, Firefox goes into grey mode and hangs after some time, looks like a memory problem but the system monitor doesn't show anything abnormal.
Turning compix off fixes the Firefox problem and puts the system into turbo drive, I think I prefer the speed boost to the special effects. :)

Alien 22-10-2007 19:21

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Well, I tried the Live CD of the 32bit version last night, & it was definitely... Linuxy. :D Had a bit of a fiddle with various things, & discovered that Solitaire is just as addictive on Linux. :disturbd: Wasn't able to change to 1024x768 [it defaulted to 1280x1024], presumably because you can't use the restricted ATI drivers unless you're running Linux from the HDD instead of a Live CD [installation of them required a reboot]. I did try to change the resolution to 1024x768, but ended up with a grey background & an X shaped cursor, & nothing else. Fortunately it asked if I wanted to keep those settings & I said no, & it reverted back to the way it was before.

I think I may actually install it on a partition somewhere, but before that I need to shuffle some stuff around, & also want to have a go at XP 64.

As for installing Ubuntu, what's the safest method? Should I create some unformatted partitions with Partition Manager 7 in Windows & then just tell Ubuntu to use them [the last time I tried installing Linux it wanted 3 partitions], or just leave some empty unpartitioned space & tell Ubuntu's setup to use that?

xpod 22-10-2007 20:08

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If you dont want to be fiddling around then the safest way(imo) would probably be to just leave whatever space you want to allocate to Ubuntu unallocated and just point the installer to the "largest continuous free space" during partitioning.
Let it do the work;)

If your resizing current Windows partitions remember and defrag a good couple of times

Alien 22-10-2007 21:10

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First of all, my apologies to whoever else replied after my last post, as I can't respond to it because for some reason it's not showing up. I can see Xpod's post, but I know [from seeing it in Mailwasher] that someone else replied. Something about partitions, I think. I can't check MailWasher's recycle bin for the details of the post as it [MailWasher] went a bit funny & decided not to log the last few hours of emails, & I didn't copy the new reply to topic email as I didn't think I had a reason to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34419652)
If you dont want to be fiddling around then the safest way(imo) would probably be to just leave whatever space you want to allocate to Ubuntu unallocated and just point the installer to the "largest continuous free space" during partitioning.
Let it do the work;)

Ok, thanks. I don't have to use all of the free space available in that free space chunk do I? I seem to remember the last 1 I tried [Mandrake I think] let me say how much I wanted to use. The reason I ask is that the largest chunk of continuous free space I've got is 102GB [it's a 500GB drive, well technically 466, but that's dishonest HDD companies for you ;)].

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34419652)
If your resizing current Windows partitions remember and defrag a good couple of times

Partition Manager handles all that, it's pretty good in general for doing partitiony things. :)

punky 22-10-2007 21:27

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A little follow up...

I got fed up with using Gnome and installed KDE. Wasn't totally smooth. The titlebars disappeared so I manually installed emerald and added it (and compiz) to start up. The only unresolved issue is the shutdown buttons are missing, but this is a long running issue with a work around.

Alien 22-10-2007 21:44

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If you prefer KDE, wouldn't you be better off with Kubuntu?

ronald146m 22-10-2007 22:08

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Hi Alien
Sorry for the confusion.:blush:

It was my post about partitions.
I deleted it when I saw Xpod's post, his is probably the most straightforward way to install Ubuntu.

If you do let Ubuntu have all the remaining space, you can easily shrink it down later and make another partition to use for something else if you like. (using Partition Manager or Ubuntu's 'gParted' utility).

In my deleted post I said that Ubuntu would set up 2 partitions in that space. One for Ubuntu proper and one for Ubuntu swap. The swap partition does what the page file does in Windows. It's often set at 1.5 times RAM, but that value isn't critical.
:cool:

Cobbydaler 22-10-2007 22:10

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I always put root & home on separate partitions, then you can reinstall if you bork the OS without losing your personal configuration files & data...

dragon 22-10-2007 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34419708)
A little follow up...

I got fed up with using Gnome and installed KDE. Wasn't totally smooth. The titlebars disappeared so I manually installed emerald and added it (and compiz) to start up. The only unresolved issue is the start up buttons are missing, but this is a long running issue with a work around.

http://fbdragon.co.uk/external/ss/snapshot7.png :p:

Kde autostart (if it helps) (/home/username/.kde/Autostart/compiz.desktop)
Quote:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Exec=compiz –replace ccp & kde-window-decorator &
Exec=emerald --replace &
GenericName[en_US]=
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-KDE-autostart-after=kdesktop
the ccp bit tells it to use the config from CCSM if i don't put that in it just seems to load default settings. :(

xpod 22-10-2007 22:50

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Quote:

I always put root & home on separate partitions, then you can reinstall if you bork the OS without losing your personal configuration files & data...
I used to do the same once i figured out enough to be getting a little adventurous with partitioning but i eventually just stopped doing it again.
I always have two drives and always have the latest stable Ubuntu on one drive with some of the bigger slave drive usually given over to the next release, after a few months in.
Anytime i re-install on one drive i always get my main settings & stuff transfered from the other and anything else worth keeping is in the nfs share elsewhere now anyway..

Separate home is definetly a good idea though.

EDIT:if you know your way round the partitioning routine anyway.

Alien 22-10-2007 22:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419747)
Hi Alien
Sorry for the confusion.:blush:

It was my post about partitions.
I deleted it when I saw Xpod's post, his is probably the most straightforward way to install Ubuntu.

Aha! The phantom post deleter revealed! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419747)
If you do let Ubuntu have all the remaining space, you can easily shrink it down later and make another partition to use for something else if you like. (using Partition Manager or Ubuntu's 'gParted' utility).

I don't want to give it the whole 102GB, I reckon 20 or 30 should be plenty for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419747)
In my deleted post I said that Ubuntu would set up 2 partitions in that space. One for Ubuntu proper and one for Ubuntu swap.

You also said something about a 3rd 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419747)
The swap partition does what the page file does in Windows. It's often set at 1.5 times RAM, but that value isn't critical.
:cool:

6GB for swap? :Yikes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34419749)
I always put root & home on separate partitions, then you can reinstall if you bork the OS without losing your personal configuration files & data...

I do something similar with Windows; I keep My Documents, My Pictures, music, email storage, etc on other partitions than the Windows 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34419784)

KDE certainly looks nicer than Gnome. What's the difference between using KDE with Ubuntu, & just using Kubuntu instead? Aside from not having to faff around in Kubuntu to set up KDE I mean.

punky 22-10-2007 23:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34419784)
http://fbdragon.co.uk/external/ss/snapshot7.png :p:

Kde autostart (if it helps) (/home/username/.kde/Autostart/compiz.desktop)


the ccp bit tells it to use the config from CCSM if i don't put that in it just seems to load default settings. :(

Cheers mate. I actually meant to say shutdown buttons :dunce: are hidden. Its something to do with xgl and shutdown permissions. There's a work around online somewhere but haven't had time to try it.

ronald146m 23-10-2007 00:10

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Hi Alien

1) You can give Ubuntu the whole 102GB to start with, then use the partition tools to take 80GB back later, It's up to you though.

2) The third one is the separate 'home' partition that Cobbydaler suggested. That's not really necessary for your first try with Ubuntu. But you decide.

3) No, not 6GB for swap. That's why I said the value isn't critical. In practice you might not do any swapping at all. But if you are given a choice then plump for between 512MB and 1GB. Even if you never use it, you won't miss 1GB from a whopping big hard drive.:p:
:cool:

Alien 23-10-2007 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419830)
1) You can give Ubuntu the whole 102GB to start with, then use the partition tools to take 80GB back later, It's up to you though.

I'd rather set it to what I want from the start, especially as I don't plan on switching over to Ubuntu/Kubuntu, it's just something to play around with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419830)
2) The third one is the separate 'home' partition that Cobbydaler suggested. That's not really necessary for your first try with Ubuntu. But you decide.

Well, it does sound like a good idea, especially as I'm already doing the same thing with Windows. "Start as you mean to go on", etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronald146m (Post 34419830)
3) No, not 6GB for swap. That's why I said the value isn't critical. In practice you might not do any swapping at all. But if you are given a choice then plump for between 512MB and 1GB. Even if you never use it, you won't miss 1GB from a whopping big hard drive.:p:
:cool:

LOL, true - I have XP set to use 1.5GB, I was just a bit surprised at the thought of having a 6GB swap. :)

slowcoach 23-10-2007 01:00

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When you are all done you will want some free games no doubt. :)

Penguinracer, used to be called TuxRacer, is in the repo's and here is a list of a few more http://www2.linuxjournal.com/node/1000435

If you want a brilliant label program install glabel, it has templates for printing every label known to man.

dragon 23-10-2007 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34419792)
Aha! The phantom post deleter revealed! :D


I don't want to give it the whole 102GB, I reckon 20 or 30 should be plenty for now.


You also said something about a 3rd 1.


6GB for swap? :Yikes:


I do something similar with Windows; I keep My Documents, My Pictures, music, email storage, etc on other partitions than the Windows 1.


KDE certainly looks nicer than Gnome. What's the difference between using KDE with Ubuntu, & just using Kubuntu instead? Aside from not having to faff around in Kubuntu to set up KDE I mean.

Just a word of warning that's not straight KDE ;)

Its actually Partially KDE with the Edge 1.5 theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show...?content=67383

But also the titlebars.etc are actually managed by Emerald with the theme "simple & nice" rather than the K window decorator.
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/sh...?content=62864

The background was my previous background from my windows install and I can't actually remember where I got it from :(

Alien 23-10-2007 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34420177)
Just a word of warning that's not straight KDE ;)

So if I check to see if a server's running, it'll respond with "I'm free!"? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34420177)
Its actually Partially KDE with the Edge 1.5 theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show...?content=67383

Cool, cheers. :tu:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34420177)
But also the titlebars.etc are actually managed by Emerald with the theme "simple & nice" rather than the K window decorator.
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/sh...?content=62864

So it's like WindowBlinds for Linux? [though hopefully less bloated & buggy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34420177)
The background was my previous background from my windows install and I can't actually remember where I got it from :(

That's ok, I think I can find my own wallpapers. ;)

dragon 23-10-2007 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34420193)
So if I check to see if a server's running, it'll respond with "I'm free!"? :D


Cool, cheers. :tu:


So it's like WindowBlinds for Linux? [though hopefully less bloated & buggy]


That's ok, I think I can find my own wallpapers. ;)

Its actually the window manager for compiz-fusion you can use the kde window decorator with it but I found it a tad unstable.

Shaun 23-10-2007 17:19

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Well downloaded the ISO - tested it - wiped the partition with XP and then tried to install it and all I get get is my monitor saying it can't display that video mode.

Tried it with different video modes and in safe mode but no dice. :(

xpod 23-10-2007 17:45

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Quote:

Well downloaded the ISO - tested it - wiped the partition with XP and then tried to install it and all I get get is my monitor saying it can't display that video mode.

Tried it with different video modes and in safe mode but no dice.
You can load the live cd up in normal mode ok though shaun??
When are you getting this message,after you reboot into your fresh installation i assume.
What video card do you have and how are you trying the differnt modes??
By logging out to a terminal i`m assuming:)

- Hit control-alt-F1..log in?
- type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
- Accept all defaults except driver... choose the safe VESA driver for now mabey?
- Hit control-alt-F7
- Hit control-alt-delete

Sorry if you`ve tried all that as you seem to be saying?

Alien 23-10-2007 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34420214)
Its actually the window manager for compiz-fusion you can use the kde window decorator with it but I found it a tad unstable.

Ah, right, so using my earlier analogy, C-F would be like the whole Stardock suite? [again, hopefully without the other one's drawbacks]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34420226)
Well downloaded the ISO - tested it - wiped the partition with XP and then tried to install it and all I get get is my monitor saying it can't display that video mode.

Tried it with different video modes and in safe mode but no dice. :(

What about when you boot into XP? Do you see anything before the login screen, e.g. the BIOS info, etc? If not, search for a thread started by me, with LCD in the title, & follow the steps listed there.

xpod 23-10-2007 18:22

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Right at the very end of the installation Alien the Grub setup will detect any other OS`s and will have them listed in a text style menu(grub) at boot up.

Ubuntu will be top of the list & will start automatically but you will have a set amount of time to choose XP instead if you prefer.Of course you can also alter your menu.lst to make XP start automatically, if you so prefer......tch:rolleyes:

:D
You will still have your bios screen and the grub one will follow directly afterwards.
The whole concept of different window managers etc can be completely alien at first but i would just concentrate on plain ole k/Ubuntu at first and forget about the bells & whilstles until you get a feel for the basics.

EDIT:Of course CompizF itself comes by default and will be up & running as soon as you install your drivers.Unless you have some older ATI one that plays nice with the default drivers & CF.

Shaun 23-10-2007 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420240)
You can load the live cd up in normal mode ok though shaun??

No - I'm getting it just before it shows the desktop.

Had the same issue with fawn but fived it by choosing 1024x768 and selecting safe graphiscs mode. :)

Quote:

When are you getting this message,after you reboot into your fresh installation i assume.
What video card do you have and how are you trying the differnt modes??
By logging out to a terminal i`m assuming:)
No from the start screen on the install for the live CD

Quote:

- Hit control-alt-F1..log in?
- type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
- Accept all defaults except driver... choose the safe VESA driver for now mabey?
- Hit control-alt-F7
- Hit control-alt-delete

Sorry if you`ve tried all that as you seem to be saying?
Do you think this could help?

---------- Post added at 19:32 ---------- Previous post was at 19:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34420255)
Ah, right, so using my earlier analogy, C-F would be like the whole Stardock suite? [again, hopefully without the other one's drawbacks]


What about when you boot into XP? Do you see anything before the login screen, e.g. the BIOS info, etc? If not, search for a thread started by me, with LCD in the title, & follow the steps listed there.

Yep - everything is fine before the Live CD starts - my last install of fawn went fine. Dunno why this is different. :erm:

xpod 23-10-2007 18:48

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Quote:

No - I'm getting it just before it shows the desktop.
Sorry about that,i just assumed from the "tested it....then tried to install" that you had got that far.

You did`nt mention what video card you had but mabey trying an alternate cd might help.It`s just a text based installer with no live environment though so you cant "try" before you buy as it were.
I always use them myself.

You could try some of the numerous boot options here mabey.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
EDIT

What hardware are you using...that might help somebody to help you:)

Shaun 23-10-2007 18:57

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I'm using a PNY Verto Geforce 6600GT.

I'm getting as far as the screen shown in the link you gave xpod but after that I get the loading scroll bar then once that fills all the way up I just get the message my monitor generates. Even if I change the resolution option on the first screen. :(

P.S. I meant tested eh CD had burnt correctly :)

xpod 23-10-2007 18:58

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Quote:

Do you think this could help?
I`m as bad as you ......not answering your questions;)
My young daughter just puked on me & my keyboard though ...thats my excuse anyway:)

That would have just got us loading the safe driver on your installation......which you dont have of course and choosing safe mode when just booting the live cd is doing that anyway.

Alien 23-10-2007 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420269)
Right at the very end of the installation Alien the Grub setup will detect any other OS's and will have them listed in a text style menu(grub) at boot up.

Ubuntu will be top of the list & will start automatically but you will have a set amount of time to choose XP instead if you prefer.Of course you can also alter your menu.lst to make XP start automatically, if you so prefer......tch:rolleyes:

:D

You will still have your bios screen and the grub one will follow directly afterwards.
The whole concept of different window managers etc can be completely alien at first but i would just concentrate on plain ole k/Ubuntu at first and forget about the bells & whilstles until you get a feel for the basics.

:rolleyes: I know what the Grub is, I was attempting to ascertain if Shaun was having the same prob with his graphics card & monitors that I had a little while ago, & was hardware related; nothing specific to Linux, as I hadn't even tried a Live CD on this system at that point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420269)
EDIT:Of course CompizF itself comes by default and will be up & running as soon as you install your drivers.Unless you have some older ATI one that plays nice with the default drivers & CF.

X800 GTO 256MB AGP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34420273)
Yep - everything is fine before the Live CD starts - my last install of fawn went fine. Dunno why this is different. :erm:

It probably isn't the same thing that happened to me then.

xpod 23-10-2007 20:27

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Quote:

I know what the Grub is, I was attempting to ascertain if Shaun was having the same prob with his graphics card & monitors that I had a little while ago, & was hardware related; nothing specific to Linux, as I hadn't even tried a Live CD on this system at that point.
lol
:dunce:sorry
Too many young women in my ears atm.......i`m not paying attention where it counts apparently:disturbd:

@Shaun...If you know you are going to install then i`d try that alternate cd,it will aviod any graphics issues till you at least get an installation to work with.
Live environments dont always play ball,even with compatible hardware.

---------- Post added at 21:27 ---------- Previous post was at 21:16 ----------

WTF??

Ok what happened to the forum there and why did everyones details beneath their avatars suddenly go a bit silly for a few seconds.:confused:

Somebody having fun:)

Alien 23-10-2007 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420361)
WTF??

Ok what happened to the forum there and why did everyones details beneath their avatars suddenly go a bit silly for a few seconds.:confused:

Somebody having fun:)

Nah, I see that occasionally too. I think it just means something hasn't loaded properly. Reload page from server [Ctrl+F5 in Firefox, IE, & Maxthon] usually sorts it.

xpod 23-10-2007 20:48

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Quote:

Nah, I see that occasionally too. I think it just means something hasn't loaded properly. Reload page from server [Ctrl+F5 in Firefox, IE, & Maxthon] usually sorts it.

Thank you oh helpful one:D

Attachment 15197

dragon 23-10-2007 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420383)
Thank you oh helpful one:D

Attachment 15197

I've had that before, if a forced refresh doesn't fix it clearing the cache usually does.

Alien 23-10-2007 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420383)
Thank you oh helpful one:D

Attachment 15197

:LOL: Oh, that, yeah. That's just when the images haven't loaded. Perhaps timed out loading them, & as a result Opera displayed the alternate text for each image that didn't load. The CF server was a bit busy earlier & got a little bogged down to the extent that 1 time I got a message saying the server was too busy & to try again soon, & another the page loaded but without the stylesheet [plain text on a white background].

I've seen weirder than that happen, but it's kinda hard to describe. The next time it happens I'll try & remember to grab a screenshot. :)

dragon 23-10-2007 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34420418)
:LOL: Oh, that, yeah. That's just when the images haven't loaded. Perhaps timed out loading them, & as a result Opera displayed the alternate text for each image that didn't load. The CF server was a bit busy earlier & got a little bogged down to the extent that 1 time I got a message saying the server was too busy & to try again soon, & another the page loaded but without the stylesheet [plain text on a white background].

I've seen weirder than that happen, but it's kinda hard to describe. The next time it happens I'll try & remember to grab a screenshot. :)

i've had a screwed thread that spat out a load of garbage instead of what should have. screenshots probably still floating around my webspace somewhere.

xpod 23-10-2007 22:18

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Quote:

Oh, that, yeah. That's just when the images haven't loaded. Perhaps timed out loading them, & as a result Opera displayed the alternate text for each image that didn't load. The CF server was a bit busy earlier & got a little bogged down to the extent that 1 time I got a message saying the server was too busy & to try again soon, & another the page loaded but without the stylesheet [plain text on a white background].

I've seen weirder than that happen, but it's kinda hard to describe. The next time it happens I'll try & remember to grab a screenshot.
Today 21:53
Probably was just some kinda timeout or something but the whole lot was flashing mad crazy stuff for about 30 seconds,until it settled down to what i snapped.

Quote:

i've had a screwed thread that spat out a load of garbage instead of what should have.
I manage that just fine without a forum hissy fit doing it for me;)

dragon 23-10-2007 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34420426)
Probably was just some kinda timeout or something but the whole lot was flashing mad crazy stuff for about 30 seconds,until it settled down to what i snapped.



I manage that just fine without a forum hissy fit doing it for me;)

Me 2 ;)

EDIT:

On topic:
I keep getting caught out by the fact KDE reopens whatever apps you had open when you shutdown

Cobbydaler 23-10-2007 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34420428)
Me 2 ;)

EDIT:

On topic:
I keep getting caught out by the fact KDE reopens whatever apps you had open when you shutdown

You can turn that behaviour off...

Go into the KDE control centre --> KDE Components --> Session Manager & select On Login Start with an empty session

Anything you want to always start on login put a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart/

dragon 23-10-2007 22:42

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34420429)
You can turn that behaviour off...

Go into the KDE control centre --> KDE Components --> Session Manager & select On Login Start with an empty session

Anything you want to always start on login put a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart/

That's for the TIP although i'm not entirely sure I want to.
Unless I'm playing a game or something (in which case i'd probably be in windows anyway) most of the stuff that pops up is stuff I'm using all the time anyway (i usually have thunderbird/firefox/pidgin/amerok open anyway...

Its only when I leave several directories open.etc and forget to close them that its a bit of a pain.

bmxbandit 28-10-2007 16:41

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Just had a quick go of ubuntu on my server - everything spot on, except the title text on every window insists on being ~150 point, despite me telling it anything otherwise. How irritating... anyone got any ideas what's up?

Enabling/disabling compiz fusion seemed not to make any difference...

xpod 28-10-2007 17:20

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Quote:

Just had a quick go of ubuntu on my server - everything spot on, except the title text on every window insists on being ~150 point, despite me telling it anything otherwise. How irritating... anyone got any ideas what's up?

Enabling/disabling compiz fusion seemed not to make any difference...
I`m assuming,just from the compiz fusion mention that you`ve installed a full blown desktop on a server machine of some sort......???
Does it have a gfx card?have you installed drivers??
Can you mabey take a screenshot because i`m not sure i fully understand myself... sorry.:confused:

What have you told Ubuntu and how did you tell it whatever you told it???

slowcoach 28-10-2007 18:04

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Got a few updates through and now the 64bit version of UBUNTU is almost perfect, running full compiz with no problem now, just one issue remains, SAMBA file transfers with a Gb card are half the speed of Debian with the same setup. Config says that card is running 1,000Mb Full Duplex so don't know what the problem can be.

Overall, this has to be the best 64bit desktop OS available, running Flash and Multi-Media since the update has resulted in no problems. Unlike openSUSE, UBUNTU applications are all 64bitis.
Is there any reason to run 32bit UBUNTU on a 64bit chip, not any more.

Alien 28-10-2007 18:27

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Originally Posted by slowcoach (Post 34423905)
Overall, this has to be the best 64bit desktop OS available, running Flash and Multi-Media since the update has resulted in no problems. Unlike openSUSE, UBUNTU applications are all 64bitis.
Is there any reason to run 32bit UBUNTU on a 64bit chip, not any more.

Flash? I thought that there wasn't a 64bit version of Flash for any OS, & that Adobe had no plans on making 1 anytime soon? :confused: Or do you mean running it in some sort of 32bit compatibility mode like XP x64 does?

xpod 28-10-2007 18:30

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Got a few updates through and now the 64bit version of UBUNTU is almost perfect, running full compiz with no problem now, just one issue remains, SAMBA file transfers with a Gb card are half the speed of Debian with the same setup. Config says that card is running 1,000Mb Full Duplex so don't know what the problem can be.
.
Thats what i like about nfs.....none of that transfer time lark with mounted shares:)

Quote:

Overall, this has to be the best 64bit desktop OS available
Just the 64bit one?....mmmm:D

bmxbandit 28-10-2007 18:34

Re: Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon Released Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 34423865)
I`m assuming,just from the compiz fusion mention that you`ve installed a full blown desktop on a server machine of some sort......???
Does it have a gfx card?have you installed drivers??
Can you mabey take a screenshot because i`m not sure i fully understand myself... sorry.:confused:

Sorry, wasn't very clear. Desktop version on a second hdd in my server/media centre. I think it's an ATI 9250, can't quite remember - haven't installed any drivers as it autodetected the GPU ok, I guess that's the obvious first thing to try!

If that doesn't help, i'll post a screenshot later. ta :)


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