Mac OS 10.5 to be released 26th October
 

Yo, Mac Users! OSX (10.5) is ready for order and will be released on the 26th October. http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/leopard/

All ready ordered my copy :D Hopefully no serious problems :erm:

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Is there an upgrade programme for recent purchasers of 10.4? My dad has a new iMac, less than a month old.

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As per Tiger, there isn't anything revolutionary on there... I'll wait a few months and get a cheap OEM copy on ebay like I did last time.

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Yea, im not 100% sure i like the new look, bit 50/50 on it, looks very much like vista to me, and that's a huge turn off,but the beta crashed on mysetup so i dont know, will just have to wait till its out i guess.

Too bad you cant use compiz-fusion on macs, otherwise id buy a mac straight away :)

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Nope. Not in the US anyway. In a bizarre coincidence my brother is toying (or may have already bought last night) an imac. I told him to ask the Mac guys if they'd give him a free copy of Leopard and they said no.

However, when I bought my powerbook (in the US) it actually came with Jaguar pre-installed and they gave me a free copy of Panther. I might have actually bought it after Panther was released, I can't remember.

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They usually do but you may have missed the cut-off date.

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Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I suspect they will be wanting to get as much money out of this release as possible, seeing as it's taken far longer than scheduled to get it out.

On your point about it not being revolutionary - it's not supposed to be. Apple OS upgrades are evolutionary, not revolutionary. Microsoft favours the revolution approach ... and Vista is a cack-handed mess.

It has some nice touches I would like to have, such as the extension of the album art browser used in iTunes to the Finder, and the ability to roll back to older versions of files (how often I've done a 'save' and then wished I hadn't ... ). As you say though, I will wait a while and then hit eBay.

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Can you get a OEM version for OSX. It's not like there are mac system builders?

There is not anything major in this release (I would argue spotlight was a big one in the last release though). There is a lot of developer stuff that makes this a good release for a Intel Computer since it contains multi-core apps and 64-bit apps.

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I do not like the cover flow for finder, but the rest of finder looks good. That is, without a doubt, the most needed improvement for the mac. I hope it will be

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The coverflow thing is nice, but i've gone this far in my life without it so a few more months isn't going to hurt.

Time Machine, which looks like a weird hybrid of Microsoft's System Restore and a disk imaging program is no good to me as it seems you need a separate external drive.

The preview thing seems to be slower than opening the file in the first place as you have to click it then go upto the top to click the eye icon.

I don't use ichat or mail. The spaces looks OK, but as I don't do hardcore work (that's for my desktop) then I probably won't use that much.

Plus the fact, contrary to public opinion Tiger did slow my powerbook down, and my little 1ghz PPC G4 is struggling enough already, and is right on the cusp of compatibility. Soeaking of which...

They are having a laugh aren't they?

Still for compiz-fusion you can always reformat and stick a copy of Ubuntu on there :) I think I might do eventually actually. as it seems Tiger is as far as I can go.

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I had a quick play with Leopord a while back (I know a couple of people who were on the beta), and while I missed a lot, I didn't find anything that made me desperate enough to part with £60 for it (yes, working for a Uni, I qualify for student discount).

Having said that, I have found Apple do have a habit of coming up with handy little functions that you don't initially think would be useful, then when you get used to them and they go, you really miss them.

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This is it. I have one machine running 10.3 and one with 10.4. I was never compelled to upgrade the 10.3 machine to 10.4, nor am I tempted to shell out for 10.5. Generally, the upgrades are marginal imo.

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I dont see the point on a G4 system yet. Like I said, a lot of the add ons are to developers like the new version of xcode and objective-C. 9GB Must be due to having it as a universal binary. Wait for an app to remove the Intel code i guess (also it's properly if you install everything..)

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Yep, It seems at least 3GB is developer tools and documentation

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http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#bootcamp

Some new features in there now. I like the grammer check, guest accounts, sandboxed apps, spotlight will now highlight the top add so its quicker to open. dotMac syncs of system preferences and dock/wallpapers.

I like the stacks and other desktop improvements too.

All small features but nice ones.

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Ooh, you are so right about that ... the number of times I squeeze my mouse on this rotten PC at work and then get frustrated when my open windows don't suddenly shrink and spread out so I can see them all ...

Exposé rocks!

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I cant live without Spotlight

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Chris T, If your Dad brought his mac on or after October 1st then he can get 10.5 for £6.

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im always curious to see what apple are upto, but are they taking the pee when on the site it says "just" 85 quid!

man, the way apple treats its loyal fans is just a joke some times

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I got it for £60 :) Still, for a OS upgrade it's not that overpriced.

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i paid about that for a full OEM version of vista.

and think about it, your paying for upgrades to things like your web browser, email, chat software etc.

normally most folk, like firefox just give these away for free, but apple puts it all in a package and charges you for it.

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Firefox has income from different sources and only produces a browser. Not a OS. Not all software should be free. But yes you paying for a upgrade to a whole load of apps including core OS apps like Spotlight, Finder, Spaces, and all the other apps then there is the underlining OS tech 64 Bit and Multi-core support with new frameworks and such. Also, new apps like Time Machine.

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i have no issue with the OS itself, just the cost to upgrade things :)

even MS gives away IE7 to XP users and such.

i think you would be hard pushed to argue that apple dont overprice their mini upgrades just to push cash out of its loyal followers.

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The upgrades are quite decent sized, I mean this one is pretty good. 2 1/2 years or so since Tiger. MS aimed and are now aiming to do the same thing. Having a collection of smaller releases more often. It also helps avoid shaking up the landscape to much so you dont have the migration problems vista had. Apple also are quite keen to keep OSX advanced.

But if you look at 10.5, I think you would be hard pushed to suggest those should all be free upgrades. Also Apple gave Safari 3.0 to 10.4 users. MS are not giving all the features away to XP users neither are Apple giving all away their features away.

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Actually, the thing I most want to test is the revised security system which apparently includes Application Sandboxing. Well, I don't *want* to test it, but I'll need to, as we'll probably be using Leopard in the Lab next year.

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i suppose if your happy to pay it :)

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My dad's new iMac missed out on the free upgrade programme by 5 days! :cry:

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I missed by 10 days, the original US apple site suggested that anyone with purchase in US from 01-09-2007 would qualify for the cheap upgrade providing they purchased in the states which I did (Tax Free). When I'd returned with credit card the US site was also 01-10-2007 for a cheaper upgrade.

Ordered anyway - although play.com are doing it for £5 cheaper than apple.

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My retail version arrived today :>
My upgrade version still says awaiting shipping :<

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I am on 10.5 now. It's pretty awesome! Only downsides are the lack of a arrow in the dock so you know which apps are open. Need to tab to see that now.....

Best things are the new unified appearance, spaces is cool, finder and quick view are very very cool

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Apparently, we do have a Leopard Server 10.5 disc somehwere I should be getting at some point. Don't know when I'll get access to either that or the leopard upgrade though. AFAIK, I am supposed to be getting both.

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I'm hoping to get mine on discount for education(ahem) but I'm not re-newing my .mac (waste of money)

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Quick View also works for Music and some video files. It really does display many different files types and does it VERY quickly. Instantly. I can preview word documents and so forth at a snap, same with cover flow which is also very quick.

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Is it generating previews on the fly, or has it been making a catalogue in the background?

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I think it's on the fly, there is a slight delay when you do it via cover flow so I presume thats whats happening.

Cannot be sure though.

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Presumably catalogues them after your first viewing though ...

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I ordered my iMac on the 15th Sept and it shipped on the 29th Sept. So I was pelased that I got accepted for the up to Date disc. Its on its way to me now :) should get it monday.

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mine is here and I am just installing now ... probably not the best thing to do after 4 bottles of peroni but hey ho!

EDIT Process:

• Disk in & selected install OSX 10.5 Leapord
• Hung during the shutdown (VMWare Fusion Stopped it!) so hard reboot:rolleyes:
• Booted back up of DVD
• Default option was to upgrade needing 5.5gb of space!:erm:
• Changed to Erase and Install needing something like 12gb of space - glad I have a macbook pro now!:D
• First estimate was a 50 minute install which quickly dropped to 35 mintes - Annoying that power saver kicks in whilst running even though on mains (come on apple):mad: - Last 5 minutes seem to take an age!
• Finally a big green tick with a "you must restart" which it does itself in 30 seconds
• reboots into a very nice movie of "Welcomes" in lots of langauges
• Then select country and keyboards, Do you want to transfer data?
• Network setup
• Apple ID & Registration information
• Create logon account and then snapshot for image (not!)
• Time zone, Date and Time
• Then a don't forget to register
• All complete!

Fairly boring install process - No "I am doing this bit" just a progress bar with no %age shown! Time remaining about a xx minutes that's it - doesn't even say which Mac OS X it's installing!

First impressions - It's OK (Nah its cool) Safari 3 is on and not beta

And that boys and girls is my leapord unleashed!