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It doesnt come with an operating system though so shall i go out and buy

Windows XP MCE? or
Windows Vista Home Premium?

It can easily handle Aero and stuff its a beast!!!!!!!
Got a quad core processor and 4gb of ram, 5 500gb hdds and ill tell you more later


PS: IVE NEVER BEEN SO EXCITED

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Happy for you m8! :)

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Got a link or more info ?

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Personally I would dual boot it for now until you are sure of what you are happy with. Windows Vista with a linux/ Ubuntu dual boot.

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Yup, Linux has eye-candy too. Look here:-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc...elated&search=

Think about installing (K)Ubuntu.
:cool:

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good on you m8 :tu:

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Kubuntu is a good starter install or Freespire. Normally works out of the box and support is better these days.

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Just about minimum spec. for Vista then. :dozey:

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It`s got to be another Ubuntu vote here:)

Enjoy your new machine no matter what you put on it though.......:)
I have a line of Kids all expecting new laptops before i`ll ever get a new machine:erm:

EDIT::)

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so which one of you wonderful Linux guys are gonna go round hold his hand install it and get everything he needs working on it then?

Sometimes it really makes me laugh with Oh thats just about minimum spec for vista and id install Linux of one type or another but you all know its not as easy as you make it out for someone who hasnt run it for ages.

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You're right man, Linux isn't easy.
But as there is no OS at all installed yet...
:)

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I have installed vista for the time being. cant activate it though because i dont have a cd key for this pc used my vista cd from my laptop. can you run live messenger on linux

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im not saying do not try linux I do not try to shove windows down peoples throats but im realistic.Windows is easy everything pretty much is written for it. Support is much more readily available. When I tried Ubuntu last year the help I received here was good but a lot of the help I received was links to massive read me sites that didnt really help at all. So I a relatively intelligent man just thought stuff this for a game of soldiers and went back to an OS I could just use

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I know what you mean,

I have found that when you ask about a problem with linux, the masses just say google it, that dont help anyone.

But I have had great help here from cobbydaler and my mate who is at the end of msn/gaim who I can ask for help.

but the masses just say google it, I have found only one other place to be like that and surprisingly enough it is javaranch

ik
EDIT: I have sent away for kubuntu... I have suse 9.3 pro, but I was told the new kubuntu is better, by my mate who I trust with linux

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Not true for everyone.

i booted in linux for the first time today in a year, and i had no problem adjusting.

mind you i found it easy to adjust the first time i tried linux..par from a few networking things..

Linux is easy to learn...

P.S Vista does require high specs to run nice, when it shouldnt, its only an OS, not a top of the line game, remember that.
And on top of that all you get is a rather poor effect at 3d animations, which are hugely slow, and very impractical when multi tasking.

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First time in a year.......

My pc is half the spec of the OP and runs Vista x64 fine

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That's nice.

My AMD X2 Dual Core 4600+, 4GB DDR, 8800GTX 768mb with 10k Drive cant even run vista at "acceptable" speeds.

And i know im not the only one.

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Come on Zing......how easy does it need to be????
How much do you think i knew about computers full stop after only 4 months using one before i discovered Ubuntu last year?

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We're off-topic now.
The OP has installed Vista.

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And? want me to bow down and say "you are my God Xpod"?? want me to use Linux? ive tried it didnt get on with it made my choice stop trying to shove it down my throat

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Some people just aint smart enough to actually use linux, and understand a pc :p:

*meant as a joke, dont take seriously*

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Yeah well lets have a looksee who asks for IT help here more you or me or offers better support?? not meant as a joke

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Aww...your getting tetchy, why?

I've worked as IT support mate, both 1st line, 2nd line and 3rd line.

I dont help on here as i work with PC's all day, working on them in my own time would be rather stupid.

I could offer better support if i had the time.

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Prove it

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How exactly?

What do i have to prove? Nothing much really.

Infact, google christopher reid and contact him, he'll tell you i've worked with his company 1st/2nd/3rd line support.

I know alot about PC's tyvm.

And if you cant use linux, and cant understand it, i think it's you who need's to prove something, mate. :p:

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In fact I think Im just gonna stop using this place as much. Im sick to death in loads of IT tech sections people trying to shove linux down others throats im sick of this.

I choose not to persevere with Nix cuz I have other things to do and afterall the majority use Windows the minority keep on at the rest to change reminds me a bit of the bloody current affairs section and im sick of that also

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Who is trying to shove linux down your's or anyone elses throat exactly?

I just said it's quite easy to use, and anyone who bothers to take the time to do so will find that out.

As for minority being on windows, desktop wise? yes.

Server wise and Industry wise, nope :)

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LOL
Your funny.

Who`s trying to shove anything down your throat for >insert deity< sake.
With all due respect......stop spouting your FUD every time someone so much as mentions the bloody thing or just shut your gob if you cant manage that much!

Just because you did`nt like it dont mean someone cant even mention the thing in your presence.People only offered it as an alternative option after all and nobody was shoving anything down anyones throat as far as i can see..

Not over in Ubuntu Forums they dont:)

LOL

Double helpings of LOL then

Get a grip of yourself m8(either that or get a life)

EDIT.....Triple LOL....and you had the audacity to complain when someone gave you negative rep recently.deary me!!

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You've done something wrong then. I've seen it run fast on machines with a third of that spec.

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And i've seen it run twice as slow on pcs double that spec.

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http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/index.php?s=

there.....

well as said I have kubuntu coming and I will install that over suse.

question for the linux people, how can I save a colour scheme so that I can transfer it over to the other flavour of linux?

ik

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Unlikely.

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I suggest you google and see the endless posts from people complaining about how slow vista is, or go to a local PC Shop and see how well, err i mean how great vista is not selling.

Vista doesn "Wow" Me.

Oop's, yes it does,as "wow, this thing sure is slow"

hope your happy paying for XP with a new pretty interface, a crappy network stack and a god awful audio stack :)

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Sadly many Linux places are just the same but it`s no different on many Windows based forums etc.I discovered online forums pretty quickly last year(not through choice) and had more than one instance or "RTFM" and "Google it" etc,well before the Ubuntu discovery.

Not that i ever let it bother me of course,it`s all in the best of fun:)

It dont happen on UF though and you can ask as many stupid seeming questions as you want over there without fear of being ridiculed....i should know;)

There is no such thing as a stupid question.......only stupid responses;)

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Funnily enough, I've spent the last year testing various releases of vista, on various configurations of machines (more than 30 of them) ranging from 2Ghz P4s with 256 Meg ram up to 3.6Ghz P4s with 2 Gig, and up through the core cpu range. Had problems with some software (which has usually been sorted through a patch for the software itself or Vista), but can't honestly say I've noticed problems with speed on most of the machines (apart from the 256Meg 2Ghz ones, but that's sorted with a memory upgrade).

BTW, I am a long-term Vista, Linux (ubuntu) and Mac OS user, and, tbh, still can't really recommend Linux for the desktop user. Linux has progressed a lot, but still has a way to go.

Actually, I should rephrase that last bit. I still can't recommend it for the desktop user who isn't willing/able to learn new things.

Now, perhaps we could get off the "Vista/Linux is crap" box and start talking about exactly why he should use an OS, rather than why he shouldn't?

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Zingle I hope the 'Had enough take care and goodbye' as your sig only is a temporary one.

Don't take everything too personally, espescially on forums. :tu:

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Vista works fine on my spec, though Nvidia really need to sort out a stable driver for the nforce3 AGP - PCI bridge. Thankfully I don't have an ATI card, and this board is a stopgap until I can get PCI-E board plus silent DX10 graphics for under £100 (looking at the Asus M2V at the mo, it has all the PCI slots and is AM2 but can't find a card yet) anyway.

Nick: With 4GB of RAM, if you want to use more than the x86 ceiling, you will need to use x64 Vista which has compatibility issues. Otherwise you won't get it all recognised in Vista anyway. XP would have no idea what to use with that spec.

Zingle: Don't go, the forum will be worse off without you, everyone values your advice.

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Zingle, don't leave..

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I have an X2 4600 3GB ram and a x1950, and I dual boot XP with Vista Ultimate.

I game on same settings on BF2142 on Vista with no FPS drop and with Aero enabled I'm using on desktop with MP11 and WLM running 23% ram 3% cpu.

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And bloody idiots who don't know when to drop something.:D

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It's just a simple fact, vista is not fast, it may seem it with a pseudo effect from aero, but it deffinately isnt.

When you start multitasking vista starts getting slow, aero lags.

I've seen this on multiple setups myself, and it's become quite boring having IT firms ringing up because their vista business is running slower than XP on a 286 20mhz 1mb ram pc setup.

Dell are now giving users the option to get XP with thier setups, because they have deemed vista a failure.

Vista just isnt selling well in any stores i've been to, its known to be bloated and slow.

I use XP, Vista (unfortunetly), Linux (gentoo, suse, and ubuntu) And Mac OSX also on a daily basis, out of all of them, vista is the slowest, especially boot and shut down times.

I mean come on, the audio stack bug (which STILL hasnt been fixed!!) which decreases network performance when audio is playing, how did someone not see that when error reporting?

Microsoft said vista would "Wow" people, it simply doesnt, nearly ALL the things that were supposed to be there are gone, and from what i am aware are not even going to make it in "7".

Like it or not, apart from the new memory management, the rest is a shambles (audio stack is, thats why creative are finding ways to get around it and use hw acceleraiton for audio), the network stack is laughable, the kernal is so-so.

UAC is just annoying, why they bothered even implementing it is beyond me, it works nothing like within linux.

I've had plenty of friends, even with new quad core setups try vista and go crawling back to XP within a month.

Sorry, im ranting :P IT Tech, so whatcha expect hehe.

As for linux being ready for the desktop? depends on what the user on the other end wants.

But mainstream, probably not, but compiz fusion sure is showing how much of a failure vista actually is.

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If it's only using 23% of your memory, something is wrong there, memory management isnt working properly, the more you have, the more it uses.

I never said it used to much CPU btw, the gui is just bloated, so everything feels slower at responding, try ticking a box for example, something simple like that and you notice the lag from aero.

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mmmmmm,I know....i could never figure why he jumped on the soap box every time someone even mentioned Linux;)

Oh well.
We cant all be (win)tech gods who`re bowed down to on some forum i suppose.:p:

Zing...get you a** back here and stop being so petulant.
Your a grown man for gods sake;)

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How about you shut up and bring this thread back on topic before it gets locked.

If you want to be a Linux fanboy then PLEASE do it elsewhere I am sick to death of your crap here bantering on Zingle.

Now I'm reporting this thread because its so far off topic the sun is closer.

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I've not even been able to get it to install on my PC since I changed my graphics card to a 6600GT. The Live CD jsut crashes after half the install. If I try and do it through the basic menu rather than the Live CD it craches when it starts up.

I've tried, Ubuntu, Kbuntu, Slax, and Suse, none install. :(

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We're not allowed to give our experience of using an OS then?

Who appointed you moderator?

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I really think you should read back through this thread to see who took it in the direction it headed.

Fanboy???
Whats that..someone who spouts nonsense on behalf of someone else who spouts nonsense?

You`ve got to be having a laugh right??
It`s a bloody box of wires as far as i`m concerned but again.....read back through the thread young un as your own fanboyism is just a tad worrying me thinks

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Yes a lad asked what OS to install and this thread has just gone into a Windows/Linux flame war.

He asked for a choice on those NOT FOR YOU TO BLOODY WELL GO AND START A FANBOY WAR OVER LINUX AND WINDOWS.

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This was post #19

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It's been answered in post 19.

So why keep it open?

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It's still open because IF the flaming and sniping dies down it could be a good thread for discussion about the merits of the different operating systems. If the flaming and sniping doesn't stop then it will be locked.

Or the OP can ask for it to be locked if he so desires.

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Anyway, i have put Vista Home Premium on and it is all working fine had to try and find some drivers though but all is good now. I just need a new keyboard and mouse

PS: Vista Rules!!!

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I like the look of vista, but thats it.....

I think there will be new good looking themes for xp that make it look just like vista, not kind of like vista.

although, I have found on linux you can make it like aero if you chose and play around a bit...

I like both, dont both sides flame me now....

it is good for a change

ik

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instead of ranting on is anyone going to answer the question

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can you run live messenger on linux

There's an application that does this, I think. Look here:-http://www.pidgin.im/
:)

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I apologize for that.

Like this?

Heres another

Pidgon(gaim?) is already installed by default in any K/X/Ubuntu as it is any many others.
Most distros have a chat client of some sort i think.

The ones i`ve tried have anyway:)

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I go away for two days and miss all the kiddies having tantrams again.

*sigh*

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Nick always has tantrums lol.

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Are you talking about me?

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Am I? Thats your guess.

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Phew - bit of flame war there! Anyway - back on topic then...

So you've installed an illegal version of Vista have you, you naughty schoolboy!

Still don't see the point of the Aero interface - granted it looks nice and all, but the only useful function is the thumbnail icons in the start bar...you can keep your 3D flip, and transparent windows thanks Bill!

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No i havnt put an illegal version on because i allready own a licence for it on my laptop. I have installed Windows Vista Home Premium on this pc not puttting any installation key in so the pc cant activate. i just want to see how fast it runs thats all

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Nick is right (for once)- you can essentially add any vista install onto any PC using a DVD by not entering a product key during setup.

It essentially lets you install a 30 day trial of Windows on the PC, this is intentional, so that you can test it for things like compatibility before activating it.

I wipe them about the same time period anyway, but I use the same thing for virtual machines - install Ultimate, without putting a key in, then wait until the 30 days is up - for testing new applications before I install them on the main PC.

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For your average user it's NOT easy to use and it'll never take off in the home desktop market, sure people have been saying for years that it will, but it never materialised.

And if you can't get Vista running at a reasonable speed with your spec of machine, I'd stop spouting about your skills because in the consumer workplace, they don't exist.

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As said before, use google, you will find endless amount's of people complaining about how slow vista runs, even on very high end spec'd machines, it is also a problem IT firms seem to be having trouble with, just this morning i was called out to a place which had installed vista business edition, and it was SLOW, And pretty much nothing worked properly.

Again, as i said, vista, is just xp with a new gui, a rather poor network stack, audio stack, and a kernal which is bloated like hell, if your happy with that's fine, its people like that, that keep me, in my job.

Linux not easy for the average user?

Are you calling the average user extremely dumb then?

Are you saying they have a really low iq?

You must be, because linux is very simple to use, if the person actually chooses to use his brain and read up on something.

I'm sorry that you, have been spoilt by windows with simple "yes, no" prompts.

Ah does anyone remember back in the day? when you actually needed to have a brain to use a PC? oh those days was fun!!!

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