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LSainsbury 19-08-2007 10:58
Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Hello,

As stated in another thread, I've just acquired a new system board - Asus A8N-SLI SE.

I'm looking for a decent graphics card - so what do you think of this?

I don't do any gaming - just usual PC stuff etc so doesn't need to be all singing all dancing etc.

I'm using Vista as the OS - I'm sure it's Aero compatible but not fussed if it's not...

Decent board for my requirements?

zing_deleted 19-08-2007 11:14
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
it will do

7@m3 G33k 19-08-2007 11:28
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
That'll do the job - personally I'd go for something passively cooled though as those 4cm fans often have unpleasant acoustic properties - especially when they get a bit worn and dusty. How about this?

LSainsbury 19-08-2007 14:29
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
OK- thanks for the replies....not heard of the adapter mentioned by 7@m3 G33k...any good?

Any reviews?

AndrewJ 19-08-2007 17:54
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Simple cheap and passively cooled and built for Windows Vista.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=635536

LSainsbury 19-08-2007 20:50
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJ (Post 34378655)
Simple cheap and passively cooled and built for Windows Vista.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=635536


That might be the one to go for - what do you think Zing?

7@m3 G33k 19-08-2007 23:41
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJ (Post 34378655)
Simple cheap and passively cooled and built for Windows Vista.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=635536
Nice card by a good manufacturer - the thing it doesn't support is DX10; what you have to decide is if that matters or not :dozey:

AndrewJ 20-08-2007 03:12
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
If he is not gaming * by his own admission" then he is fine.

I run DX9 with my 1950 and I am waiting till about October before I pick up a 2900 for DX10 power, I like being a few month behind times, means the fanboys pick out the bugs first hand.

On topic though, that card is alot of bang for your buck.

LSainsbury 20-08-2007 12:12
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Went for the Asus 7200GS in the end! Ordered from Scan :tu:

zing_deleted 20-08-2007 12:24
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34378941)
Nice card by a good manufacturer - the thing it doesn't support is DX10; what you have to decide is if that matters or not :dozey:

if you read the tech specs it does

keithwalton 20-08-2007 15:33
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
The 8400 is DX10, though woefully underpowered for dx10,

shame you've ordered already as well this is quite a steal!
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(17242)...56MB-PCIE.aspx

It is the cut down 'pro' version (3/4 of a XT) but its still 3x what an X1600 series (7600 rival)

7@m3 G33k 20-08-2007 16:41
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34379168)
if you read the tech specs it does
Indeed it does! It's not bloody true though! Only nVidia's 8xxx range are DX10 capable and Asus' website states this card is DX9. However as AndrewJ pointed out the OP probably doesn't need a DX10 card.

Quote:
Originally Posted by keithwalton (Post 34379318)
<snip>
shame you've ordered already as well this is quite a steal!
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(17242)...56MB-PCIE.aspx

It is the cut down 'pro' version (3/4 of a XT) but its still 3x what an X1600 series (7600 rival)
Yep, nice card, nice price - but it's wasted if the OP isn't a gamer - which he says he's not. Then again he could be an undercover gamer of course...sneaky! :shocked:

AndrewJ 20-08-2007 17:56
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34379168)
if you read the tech specs it does
The lord agrees with me :D

*goes off all chuffed*

:D

Matth 20-08-2007 20:09
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
The lack of DX10 mode may not worry a non-gamer, but who knows what will end up taking advanrage of DX10 in other graphics areas, maybe not hampered by the low performance of cheap DX10 cards.

With cheap DX10 now available - Nvidia 8400/8500, ATI 2400, there is a good case for equating Vista = DX10, unless keeping a DX9 card from a previous build.

AndrewJ 20-08-2007 20:44
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34379558)
The lack of DX10 mode may not worry a non-gamer, but who knows what will end up taking advanrage of DX10 in other graphics areas, maybe not hampered by the low performance of cheap DX10 cards.

With cheap DX10 now available - Nvidia 8400/8500, ATI 2400, there is a good case for equating Vista = DX10, unless keeping a DX9 card from a previous build.
For the average joe user like the member in this thread I doubt such a lack of latest tech is a problem.

I run DX9 still and shall do until Vista is a more happy proposition as right now I am running it on dual boot and their is no way I would consider using it right now as my main operating system.

LSainsbury 21-08-2007 08:14
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
So - not being up on the latest games what advantage does DX10 have over DX9?

zing_deleted 21-08-2007 08:38
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34379558)
The lack of DX10 mode may not worry a non-gamer, but who knows what will end up taking advanrage of DX10 in other graphics areas, maybe not hampered by the low performance of cheap DX10 cards.

With cheap DX10 now available - Nvidia 8400/8500, ATI 2400, there is a good case for equating Vista = DX10, unless keeping a DX9 card from a previous build.

That is of course true if they are also compatible with DX10.1

---------- Post added at 09:38 ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34379779)
So - not being up on the latest games what advantage does DX10 have over DX9?
nothing for someone who isnt gonna be gaming on the machine

LSainsbury 21-08-2007 08:52
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34379800)


nothing for someone who isnt gonna be gaming on the machine

What if I decided to buy a copy of MS Flight Simulator?

I assume it would still play buy lack a few detail features?

zing_deleted 21-08-2007 09:03
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Thats not optimised for DX10 anyway. It should play ok on what you have ordered I dunno the min reqs for it though

7@m3 G33k 21-08-2007 11:47
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34379812)
What if I decided to buy a copy of MS Flight Simulator?

I assume it would still play buy lack a few detail features?
I'm sure the card you have bought will be great for the job you want it to do now and for the next year or two. If at some time in the future you find you need DX10 then such cards will have come down in price significantly and also be more powerful. Therefore you're not really future-proofing in any significant way by getting a DX10 card now. Job done, enjoy your new graphics card :)

Matth 21-08-2007 21:00
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Oops, forgot about the DX10/10.1 issue, there goes future proofing.

At the moment, on games available with optional DX10 mode (they all support DX9), there is generally a drop in performance when going to DX10, though an improvement in graphical quality.

The depth of DX9 presence, and especially the hangover of WinXP systems, secures the future of DX9 for quite some time.

LSainsbury 23-08-2007 07:36
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Right - got the graphics adapter yesterday so will be pulling the PC apart at the weekend!

If I just install the new hardware, do you think I'll be able to preserve my current install, or will Vista get the hump with the new chipset and throw fit?

I aslo think it's going to say 'eh up! Hardware changes! I'm going to need a re-activation!

I suspect it'll be the latter so I'll probably end up trashing the OS partition and doing a clean install.

AndrewJ 23-08-2007 13:23
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Just uninstall old drivers. Shutdown. Then install new gpu, bootup, install drivers when asked. Enjoy

LSainsbury 23-08-2007 13:46
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJ (Post 34381835)
Just uninstall old drivers. Shutdown. Then install new gpu, bootup, install drivers when asked. Enjoy
Drivers for what? :erm:

7@m3 G33k 23-08-2007 13:55
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34381857)
Drivers for what? :erm:
For the pink umbrella in the hall! :dozey:
C'mon Lee - drivers for the new graphics card! :rolleyes:

LSainsbury 23-08-2007 14:09
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34381862)
For the pink umbrella in the hall! :dozey:
C'mon Lee - drivers for the new graphics card! :rolleyes:

Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34378374)
As stated in another thread, I've just acquired a new system board - Asus A8N-SLI SE.
Well it could have been chipset drivers seeing as I'm replacing the system board / CPU / RAM and graphics card!

keithwalton 23-08-2007 14:51
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
What board are you changing from ?
It's likely to throw quite a hissy fit at you and will certainly need re-activation if your changing that much hardware.

Also forget flight sim X and pretty much any game written in the last 3 years +

The 7200 GS may well support the latest features but it only has 2! pipelines working at 450MHz.

This makes it only slightly faster than the old Geforce 4 'MX' series cards from 2002. The 4 MX was an old design back then.

The first 4 pipeline card was the Geforce 2 from 2000. The top Ti model had a clockspeed of 250MHz, this card has a higher fillrate than the 7200GS!

Apparently tho the 7200GS is 50% faster than there fastest integrated graphics solution! which is just err slow!

7@m3 G33k 23-08-2007 15:09
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34381871)
Well it could have been chipset drivers seeing as I'm replacing the system board / CPU / RAM and graphics card!
:dunce: Soz! Prob a re-install: even if you can kludge it with a repair install (works 90% in my experience) a fresh install is a much better bet with so much new hardware.

AndrewJ 23-08-2007 15:46
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34381857)
Drivers for what? :erm:
DOH sorry I was replying in topic to you just changing your gpu.

Yes if you was changing so much hardware I would go with a full reinstall of the OS.

Sorry about that...didn't have my morning coffee.

zing_deleted 23-08-2007 16:24
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
with the mainboard change you could be scuppered with the reactivation also

7@m3 G33k 23-08-2007 16:27
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34381970)
with the mainboard change you could be scuppered with the reactivation also
*get's ready to duck*

Have you considered Ubuntu 7.04 Lee? :angel:

AndrewJ 23-08-2007 16:48
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
*Throws Linux Book at G33k.*

LSainsbury 23-08-2007 17:34
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Thanks for the replies - now you see where I was coming from!


Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34381971)
*get's ready to duck*
Have you considered Ubuntu 7.04 Lee? :angel:

No - but I might give it a go on my second machine sometime!

Alien 26-08-2007 18:00
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34378385)
those 4cm fans often have unpleasant acoustic properties - especially when they get a bit worn and dusty.
That's why there's only 1 brand of 40mm fans that I trust: SilenX.

keithwalton 26-08-2007 19:11
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34381970)
with the mainboard change you could be scuppered with the reactivation also
I have read that the activation servers are down at present which will make things interesting

LSainsbury 26-08-2007 20:09
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
PC all built with nice new AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ 2.41GHz, 2048MB RAM and Asus EN7200GS graphics adapter.

Windows Experience Rating: 3.0 - Lowest subscore on the 3D business and gaming graphics performance.

PS - Activated successfully - no issues..

keithwalton 26-08-2007 20:44
Re: Asus A8N-SLI SE System Board - Graphics adapter required!
 
excellent news :) not surprised by the graphics being the lowest, what are the other scores like ?


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