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Druchii 18-08-2007 12:57

NorthQ what a PSU...
 
Not... :(

Well, we all know (Or many of the informed) that these PSU's are pretty damn good at going "Boom!". And this of all times is the worst time to discover my girlfriends PC is running with one of them, her specs are as follows:

Intel Pentium D 805 2,66Ghzx2
2 x 512Mb Corsair XMS2 PC2-800 and 2 x 512Mb Corsair ValueRAM PC2-533, both running at PC2-540 @ 4-4-4-12 @ 1,9v.
Asus P5ND2-SLI motherboard
Inno3D GeForce 6600 256Mb w/ my custom cooling (Pics on request)
320Gb HDD
NEC ND-3550A DVD burner.
Win XP Pro SP2 "WinBorg" Edition.
Anywho, it was all run with a 400w NorthQ PSU, that apparently was one of the cheapest available at the time.

I told her they went Boom when i discovered this 2 weeks ago, when i spotted it, but a year and a few months it had lasted and we thought no more of it...
Until two days ago.

You remember the game "Trackmania: Nations"? Well, it's not exactly the most taxing of games really, it was set at 1280x1024 at pretty much max settings, ran pretty well.
Ok, i'll gewt to the point, we'd just made a fantastic track to challenge us both (as we had been doing all day) and the PSU went Boom :cry:

Now, she starts the equivalent of college on Monday, with a ton of homework and coursework no doubt, and i don't have the money to replace the PSU i blew up (The GFX card had a modest overclock to 400 on core, and 295(590) on memory. IT had been running fine for the 3 weeks prior to this).
I've now had to get "The Antiquity" up to date for her to use, which is an old machine she had lying around and i feel so guilty at this point.

My warning is this: Stay the F&% away from cheap PSU's if you don't want problems.

At this point we're not sure what has been taken out with it as we have no spare powerful enough to try with. "The Antiquity" has a small 200w PSU with 6A on the main rail... Nowhere near powerful enough.

The Antiquity's Specs:
Intel P3 500Mhz
128Mb PC133 SD-RAM
9Gb HDD
Intel Riva TNT2 Graphics card.
And of course, a CD drive...

I feel bad :( So bad...
Oh, and to make it worse, the PC in my sig will not be with me for at least another 6 - 8 weeks.

smucks 18-08-2007 13:07

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
I used to buy cheap PSU's at one time and learned the hard way processor/memory and board fried and two days after replacing them the dam monitor went down just my luck.

7@m3 G33k 18-08-2007 13:17

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
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Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34377956)
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I feel bad :( So bad...
Oh, and to make it worse, the PC in my sig will not be with me for at least another 6 - 8 weeks.

Don't beat yourself up - you had spotted the dodgy item and warned her about it. A decent 400W PSU would be more than enough for that system so a good gaming session is not what blew it up - it was NorthQ's cheap components/design/manufacturing that was to blame.

If your budget is limited you could do much worse than get an Antec Earthwatts PSU.

Druchii 19-08-2007 14:38

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Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34377968)
Don't beat yourself up - you had spotted the dodgy item and warned her about it. A decent 400W PSU would be more than enough for that system so a good gaming session is not what blew it up - it was NorthQ's cheap components/design/manufacturing that was to blame.

If your budget is limited you could do much worse than get an Antec Earthwatts PSU.

Thansk for the advice mate, those PSU's are excellent value for the price, and the 2x 12V lines are actually only one 12v line delivering 34A overall, which is amazing for such a decent price.

We'll be going with the 500W version i think, for future upgrade of graphics etc. (No SLI or CrossFire here, even though we could).

Were you aware that seasonic actually manufacture them? Here's a decent review of it: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=51

Found it for 631NOK + postage here, which is about £53.50

AndrewJ 20-08-2007 03:50

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
I've a elcheapo 400watt lying about I'm not sure wether it works but im sure you could shove it in and see if it powered yours up.

Pm me if your interested.

Alternatively for a cheap new one
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...id=123&subcat=

DocDutch 20-08-2007 06:14

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
Druch, I've got a reasonable trust PSU laying round here...but if my memory serves me correctly you are in Norway nowadays so postage is going to be a bstrd. if you want it drop me a line matey

Druchii 20-08-2007 10:14

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
I'm afraid the postage would be a killer on it, but i really do appreciate both your offers :)

Still waiting for my money to be transferred to here, which is annoying, but when it is, i'll see if i can get a local shop to get the Antec in for me since i can't order online here for at least another month or so :(

7@m3 G33k 20-08-2007 16:13

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34378522)
Were you aware that seasonic actually manufacture them? Here's a decent review of it: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=51

Interesting, I didn't know that but it's not really a surprise: there are very few companies that actually make PSUs and as Antec have always had a good rep it's a fair bet they would be sourcing some of their products from Seasonic. Here's hoping your local shop can get one for a reasonable price :)

Druchii 20-08-2007 16:47

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Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34379368)
Interesting, I didn't know that but it's not really a surprise: there are very few companies that actually make PSUs and as Antec have always had a good rep it's a fair bet they would be sourcing some of their products from Seasonic. Here's hoping your local shop can get one for a reasonable price :)

Still no response from them, but i did email in English, so, maybe if there is no response by tomorrow i'll ask in Norwegian... Through my fantastic translator "The Girlfriend".

Still, it made me smile when i found that review, Seasonic are the 2nd best PSU's i've ever seen, with Zippy coming first :)

Web-Junkie 24-08-2007 15:03

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PC Power & Cooling FTW!!! :)

Druchii 24-08-2007 16:43

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Originally Posted by Web-Junkie (Post 34382891)
PC Power & Cooling FTW!!! :)

I'd put them a reasonable 3rd.

Anywho, still not got a PSU yet for that machine :(

Alien 25-08-2007 19:26

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Originally Posted by AndrewJ (Post 34378965)

Cheapo PSUs are a false economy, as Druchii's tale of woe proves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Web-Junkie (Post 34382891)
PC Power & Cooling FTW!!! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34382984)
I'd put them a reasonable 3rd.

Every review I've read of a PC Power & Cooling PSU rated them as the best. Admittedly, they may be more expensive than most other PSUs, but how many other brands do a comprehensive test of every unit & include a detailed report of the test results with the PSU?

Web-Junkie 25-08-2007 23:14

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
PC Power & Cooling FTW!!! :)

Druchii 26-08-2007 08:54

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 34383641)
Cheapo PSUs are a false economy, as Druchii's tale of woe proves.



Every review I've read of a PC Power & Cooling PSU rated them as the best. Admittedly, they may be more expensive than most other PSUs, but how many other brands do a comprehensive test of every unit & include a detailed report of the test results with the PSU?

Ouch! Now that i was not aware of!

Well, all things said and done, there was a sale on a Revoltec PSU locally, should of been 936NOK, got it for 468 :)

It's a Revoltec RPS-450V2 (450w, modular). It's rated like this:
+3.3v - 28A
+5v - 34A
+12v - 27A
-12v - 0.8A
-5v - 0.5A
+5VSB - 2.5A

All in all pretty good, and hopefully it'll stand up to this 3.6Ghz CPU, and the overclocked graphics card.
Oh, and it's very quiet!

Web-Junkie 26-08-2007 23:37

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
I read about Single Rail PSU's by accident, being unaware of the spin about Multi Rail PSU's it made me think about my next PSU when I upgraded a couple of months ago, hence the reason I settled for the PC Power & Cooling PSU as it's one of the few Single Rail PSU's around and got good reviews on nearly all the review sites that had reviewed it, "Overall it's a KICK ASS PRODUCT" as one reviewer says, some relation to Delboy I think :)

I did check out the Silverstone Decathlon 750w, again Single Rail, but a few reviews and forums mentioned they whine when under load so didn't fancy that, having a wife or girfriend doing the same whining when they are under load is more than enough!

I just hope your new PSU doesn't give you any more trouble!

Alien 27-08-2007 03:24

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
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Originally Posted by Web-Junkie (Post 34384286)
"Overall it's a KICK ASS PRODUCT" as one reviewer says, some relation to Delboy I think :)

I recognise the catchphrase; that would be Rodney Reynolds from 3dgameman.com. 1 of the reasons I stopped watching his video reviews was because it seemed like he considered everything to be a "kick ass product" - I can't recall him giving anything a bad review. That's not comment on PC Power & Cooling PSUs, just 1 of the reasons why I stopped visiting his site.

Druchii 27-08-2007 06:06

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Web-Junkie (Post 34384286)
I read about Single Rail PSU's by accident, being unaware of the spin about Multi Rail PSU's it made me think about my next PSU when I upgraded a couple of months ago, hence the reason I settled for the PC Power & Cooling PSU as it's one of the few Single Rail PSU's around and got good reviews on nearly all the review sites that had reviewed it, "Overall it's a KICK ASS PRODUCT" as one reviewer says, some relation to Delboy I think :)

I did check out the Silverstone Decathlon 750w, again Single Rail, but a few reviews and forums mentioned they whine when under load so didn't fancy that, having a wife or girfriend doing the same whining when they are under load is more than enough!

I just hope your new PSU doesn't give you any more trouble!

Definitely not causing any trouble at all thankfully.

Handles itself well when the system is fully loaded, doesn't whine, and that's just as well as i'm sure there's at least a spare 100W headroom in it yet :)

Web-Junkie 30-08-2007 18:22

Re: NorthQ what a PSU...
 
Fingers crossed for you mate, hope your new PSU will 'Live long and prosper' :)

7@m3 G33k 31-08-2007 14:57

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Originally Posted by Web-Junkie (Post 34386783)
Fingers crossed for you mate, hope your new PSU will 'Live long and prosper' :)

Please, please, PLEASE...forgive me...

Druchii's Girlfriend: "We need more power Druchii!"

Druchii: "She can'ae handle it, warp-factor 9 is one thing but now you want quad-SLI and 4Tb of hard drive storage! Mah capacitors are about to blow!"

Druchii 31-08-2007 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 7@m3 G33k (Post 34387511)
Please, please, PLEASE...forgive me...

Druchii's Girlfriend: "We need more power Druchii!"

Druchii: "She can'ae handle it, warp-factor 9 is one thing but now you want quad-SLI and 4Tb of hard drive storage! Mah capacitors are about to blow!"

Hahaha, gave us both a decent laugh, you're forgiven dude :p:


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