Connect 2nd home pc to internet
 

Hello everyone,

I am after a bit of help.:confused:

I have bought a secound pc as I am fed up with the kids wanting to be on the internet all the time while I need to be on.:mad:

Both pc's are running windows XP home.
I am on virgin cable.
I bet you have guessed what I am going to ask, lol.

I would like to know what I am going to require to connect both pc's so they share the internet. I do not want the wireless connection.

I have a feeling it has somthing to do with setting up a small home or office network but I would like to know what kind of wires etc I will require.

I hope someone out there can help me as I know you technical minded people will be sat having a laugh at me.:dunce:

Thanx

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1. Nobody's going to be laughing at you (well, maybe I might, but that's 'cause I'm just 'orrible!) :)

2. :welcome: to Cable Forum

3. What you're wanting to do is actually (although you won't believe it now) incredibly easy. The only problem I can see is that you're probably going to end up with wires all over your house :) If that's not a problem, read on.

What you need to get hold of is something called a router. This is a small(ish) box that connects to the Cable Modem. You then connect your computers to this box and it will share your internet connection across the different machines.

In time, when you get used to the idea, you will be able to do more 'networking' between the machines. For now though, this will help you get to where you want to be.

Like I say though, doing it this way will mean having cables running all over the place.


Exactly how you connect to the modem, and exactly what sort/model of router you need, will depend on what sort of modem it is, and that's where I bow out I'm afraid. I'm not a VM customer so I haven't got a clue what hardware you are using.

If you'd like to hold the line I'm sure somebody will be along shortly with some more advice :)

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You'll need a router like this one - http://tinyurl.com/2ge7gv. Even though you say you don't want wireless connectivity now you might want it in the future, the wireless routers aren't that much more expensive I use this one - http://tinyurl.com/2huxar

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Thank you for your quick responce. ;)

And for not having too much of a laugh .... mmmmm...lol

The pc's are going to be station right next to each other. Daft as it might sound but I like to keep an eye on what the kids are doing.:monkey:

So I need a router I am guessing you can get these from PC world.

If it helps anyone out there I have a 'Cable modem ntl:250' and its blue.

I read the ntl 250 from off the back so I am assuming as us women do that thats what model it is.

Thanx

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Hi there,

Make sure that the router you buy is a cable broadband router and not an ADSL router as this will not work with your connection.
You can get one from PC World but I'm sure you'l find cheaper online.
I have this one at the moment:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-Ethe...261346&sr=1-51

Very easy to setup.

1. Turn off PC's and turn off NTL cable modem.

2. Still switched off, Connect NTL modem to router and each PC to router.

3. Switch on NTL modem and wait for lights to be steady.

4. Switch on router and wait til lights are steady.

5. Switch on PC's and should work straight away.

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Thank you for you reply.

I will follow your instructions to the t when I get the router.

Been impatient I might just have to go to Pc World. lol

I will check price and then decide how impatient I am.
Thank you again

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Ok.

Your best bet (in my, admittedly rather humble, opinion) is going to be a basic Linksys router.

As DW has said above, you might not want the wireless now but as most come with it you might as well get a wireless one, disable the wireless, and then it's there for when you do decide you want it.

I think that this little fellow will do the job quite nicely: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-WRT5...7263320&sr=8-3

Anything similar from PC world will be ok, just don't buy an 'ADSL' router! Tell them it's for a cable DSL connection.

simply turn everything off and unplug the modem from the computer it's plugged into at the moment.

Using ethernet cables (you will get one with the router, and probably got one with the modem, so you just need one more straight-through cat5 ethernet cable) plug the port labelled 'Internet' into the back of your modem, and then plug your two computers into the other ports (labelled 1-4) in the back of the router.

Switch the modem back on, leave for 5 minutes, switch the router on, leave for 5 minutes, switch the computers on one at a time.

Once that's done you should all be connected to the Internet. You then need to set up the security etc on the router. If you post back here when you get to that point someone will talk you through it all :)

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Nah :(

Beaten to it by Halcyon :(

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:D

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Looking at the PC World website, I can't see any non-wireless routers listed. The router that Halcyon and I have mentioned would seem to be that way to go, the Amazon price is pretty good too. I bought my router from Amazon, I've never had any problem with them in the eight years I've been a customer.

You are right to want to check the websites the kids are visiting, I would never allow any child under 16 to have a computer in their room.

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'Cable DSL'? Are you sure? :confused:

I thought it was either cable or DSL, DSL (or ADSL) being the one she doesn't want.

And so far, nobody has asked Mrsmac to ensure that both PCs she wishes to connect have an ethernet port, nor have they told her that she may need to buy two lengths of ethernet cable when she visits PC world (I suspect that the router will come with, at best, one length of cable to connect the router to the cable modem - if it doesn't, then put three lengths of cable in your basket).

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Fair points. I assumed the PC's were reasonably new as they are both running XP and therefore would have ethernet ports. She will of course need to buy at least one cable (my Linksys came with one short cable).

The manual for the router is here: http://www.isomicro.co.uk/downloads/befsr41_ug.pdf Chapter four shows how the router is connected.

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You're right, my bad.

However.....

So, not guilty :)

I would imagine that, mrsmac being the intelligent and thoughtful lady she is, she will already have sussed that there is a need to poke around the backs of the machines. We've already established a pattern of behaviour for this as well:

Given that at least one of the computers is fairly new:

I assumed that it was likely to have an Ethernet port. I'm fairly sure, given that it too is running Windows XP, that the original PC is new enough that we can make an assumption in that case as well.

So, there we have it. I've made a couple of assumptions, oh dear - I think everything else we've said has been fairly on the money though.

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Hello, that will me a hand's & knee's job wont it! I have already cleaned under the pc desk today lol.

Thank you for adding this your an :angel: as I would not of even thought of looking and I am sure I would have been asked in pc world.

I have come across an item in another know shop for £31.99 it is a wireless one. Can you turn all the wireless ones off ( again please dont laugh) I am trying to learn.:dunce:

It would be ok if dh knew about pc's but he only recently found the on off button. lol

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You can with most routers, if you post a link to where you've found it it may be that it's one I've used previously and I can tell you for sure.

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Nobody is going to laugh at you, this is a good place to ask questions. The moderators do a great job of keeping it that way.

You can switch the wireless off (see pic of my router setup webpage).

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Are you a mumsnetter perchance? :)

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http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/p...ification#spec

Not sure how to do it
:dunce:

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Oh how good am I lol

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:) any of my friends out there who can let me know if this would be any good?

:D

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It's Belkin :eek: but other than that it should be ok.

I've no experience of actually owning Belkin routers, merely experience replacing them for others, so I can't sey whether or not you can switch the wireless on/off. I would imagine that you can, but please don't quote me on that.

As I said, only really have experience owning Linksys routers, so know those like the back of my hand - anything other than than that and it's all guesswork :)

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Thanx for your advice.;)

I had to talk dh into buying 2nd pc so dont want to be spending to much more getting it plugged in lol.

Thank you for your help
;)

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No prob's.

Give us a shout back when you're up and running and we can help you get it configured/secured :)

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BTW: I don't get the dh bit.....

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darling husband - an abbreviation much beloved of members of mumsnet.com (Mrs T's favourite forum), hence my question which MrsMac hasn't answered yet. :p:

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:p: dear husband :p:
lol

C u learn somthing new everyday

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Ooh, there she is! :D

I could've sworn it was darling ...

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sorry dear yes I do like to have a chat on the forums I am expecting our 5th child so that is were you can find me after I have done all the house work and got the kids all sorted.

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choose which ever you wish hun.

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Ah right :)

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Blimey! I'll stick to PC troubleshooting and internet security - a lot less pain and hard work than your profession! :nworthy:

And by the way: respect for keeping an eye on the kids while they're online. Whenever I hear some scare story about kids and the internet and parents saying: "It's an outrage, it shouldn't be allowed!" I can't help wondering where the parents were when their kid was illegally downloading music or talking to some dodgy stranger in a net chatroom. :tu:

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Ok just to put my :2cents: in as mrsmac2006 has the computers next to each other and she wants to keep an eye on what the children are doing and have control when they have access to the internet why not share the connection with her computer being the master PC with two NICs (network interface card) and the children’s computer being the slave with one NIC then all you need is a crossover cable and hey presto both computers have access to the internet.

The master computer could have a password set so unless it has been started with the password the children have no access to the internet.

While this is a little harder to set-up than a router its quite easy to set-up

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I know exactly how you feel.....and then some:)
When one decides they want on a pc they all want on the bloody pc`s.

The only reason i even sat down at a pc last year was my kids online saftey and our computer/s well being & security.The last time for me was the commodore64 i had as a kid some 20 odd years ago.
17 months later,well i have a unpaid job on the side for my troubles and i know more than my kids do.....for now.:D

4 daughters and one poor son here....
We will get through it together i have promised him:D

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Hello there me again if after a quick responce before shop shuts if anyone is around.

The ntl modem has an ethernet cable with it so do i need another 2 cables to complete my task?

If 2 i am assuming that like you say one will be in the box so i will require one cable.

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You need:

One from Modem to Router
One from Router to PC1
One from Router to PC2

So, yes. You need three cables total, minus the one that you have leaves 2. Check when you buy the router that there is a cable with it. Make sure that you don't buy crossover cables, you need straight through ones.

Have fun :)

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Thanx hun, ill let you know how i am doing.

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K :)

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There is nothing "daft" about that in any way whatsoever btw...
I have two desktops stationed side by side .....and a laptop too if needs be and i`m very very very conscious of what my girls are doing online.Although their all pretty clued up for their ages now.....i hope ;)

Pretty much what i do myself with 5 kids,4 machines and no proper router as such:)
My teenage son uses the separate stb connection on the pc upstair but he`s easy enough to monitor with ssh on the sly.

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Hello up and running with it now just need help with the security if anyone available


Thank you so much for your help so far

As for the kids, I would never forgive myself if I didn't keep an eye on them and somthing happened.

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You don't need any security if you turn the wireless off.

If you've decided to switch it on, you should be using WPA with PSK (Pre-Shared Key), but how you set this up will depend on which router you bought.

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I can not find how to turn it off lol and also I put a password in using the wpa but i am not sure if you only have to put it in the once.
Because it has not installed anything on my pc I am not sure if the security is on.

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i am also trying to figure how to stop my email going to other pc

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WPA is wireless-only security so as your PC is connected with a cable there is nothing to setup on your PCs. Job done! :D

The e-mail program on the other PC must have an account setup with your e-mail details. You will have to delete this account from your e-mail program and, assuming you have setup separate VM e-mail accounts for your kids, add those accounts to your e-mail program. VM's website describes how to do these things here.

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If the two PC's are next to each other why can't you just buy another NIC card for like £10 and some cross-over patch cable, then connect that way? Would be ALOT cheaper than a router setup?

Granted a router is a better and neater solution but more £'s

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I'd hazard it's because not everybody thinks opening up their PC is an exciting way to spend a couple of hours.

In fact I think you'll find the vast majority of people have as much interest in opening up their PCs as they do servicing their own car. ;)

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I know i`ve been told a million times never to exaggerate;)

It takes minutes to stick a spare nic in in reality:)

You get them a lot cheaper than that on Ebay etc:)
I got two perfectly good 3com 10/100Mb cards for about £3 all in including p+p:)

You could spend the £30(?) on the router for ease and simplicity but you could also spend £5(?) on a spare nic & patch cable for ........ease and simplicity:)

EDIT:Theres new Gigabit cards for £1.65 on Ebay just now:)

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You will need to setup the wireless encryption as that Belkin router does not support disabling of the wireless connectivity. Have you opened the router setup page http://192.168.2.1 ? Click login and the default password is either "admin" or just press return.

Look for the blue bar with wireless in white on the left side of the screen then under that click security. Here you can select the security mode which should be WPA-PSK, encryption technique set to AES, now enter a string of 63 characters. Anything will do but for the strongest security use letters, numbers and characters such as :@~}{. Write it down as you entered it making sure upper/lower case characters are correct and store safely for possible future use. Now click apply changes.

On the left above security click channel and SSID and untick broadcast SSID, again apply changes. On the left click WAN ping blocking and tick the box then apply. Lastly at the bottom left click system settings and enter a password to replace the default, then set time zone and tick box for daylight savings. Click apply and you're done, though for extra protection you might want to use the free 6 month parental control subscription that you probably recieved. That is directly under the blue utilities bar.

Hope that helps, I'll look in tomorrow morning in case you've had any problems.

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PCWorld.....shuddddddderrrr!

BTW -Welcome to CF! :wavey:

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...or YouTube
...Or CF! :)

How old are the kids MrsMac2006? Just trying to work out if they are old enough to be net aware...

How's it going with the router setup? All done??

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You will need to setup the wireless encryption as that Belkin router does not support disabling of the wireless connectivity. Have you opened the router setup page http://192.168.2.1 ? Click login and the default password is either "admin" or just press return.

Thank you for your help with that. You have made me feel a lot better.

As for age of kids, All I will say is they are all under 11 and sat next to me on their pc and I am watching every move they make lol.

Everything seems to be going fine.

What age do you class as net safe? I think mine will be leaving home before I stop watching ?
Mum from hell.

Once again a big big thankyou to everyone who has helped and posted on this thread.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx

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The manual says the wireless status light can be in the off state, so the wireless can be switched off (somehow) if not required.

The net is not safe for anybody under the age of 150! :D

Seriously - just keep an eye on what they are doing - if you find they have accessed something inappropriate then it can be blocked by various means.

Always glad to help! And DON'T be afraid to ask questions - even if you think they are silly! We all had to learn somehow!

BTW - Not sure if anybody has mentioned it so far (just kinda skipped parts of this thread), but have you changed the default admin password on the router?

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;) When I set it up it asked me to put in a password then game me a HFX code could this be what you are on about.

I have looked on the page that I was directed to and it say that the security is enabled. Am i wrong in thinking that I am safe, could someone else do the same?
As i dont have to put my password in to access that page.

I tell you what though it is nice to be able to check an email as soon as it comes through rather than having the kids complaining at me.:)

Any thoughts??

I would like to have it as wireless if possible stops the worry but I have not come across how to turn it off.

:confused:

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:erm: I found it ..... I found it i have change admin password:D

Now i just wanted to know what UPNP stands for
Advanced feature allows you to turn the upnp feature of the router on or off.:confused:
This isnt the wireless bit is it?;)

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Is`nt that the point of the two machines:)
Once your kids have a machine all to themselves though you will only find yourself under even more pressure to get off your own machine...

When one is on the PC they all want on a pc;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upnp

EDIT:sorry,i thought you were asking how to check an email asap there......doh!!
I got a baby on my knee distracting my attention....thats my excuse anyway

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Lol no probs just wish i could find out if i can turn the wireless bit off.

10 month old baby on your knee I am not suprise you are distracted

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The manual indicates you can.

What version router do you have? Check under the router - on a small label - possibly v1, v2 ,v3 or v4.

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under says ver 6003uk if thats what your after

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Think that's the model...should be on a tiny sticker under the model / serial numbers etc..


Edit - like this:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/08/11.jpg

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10 months:shocked:.........But she`s 2 now, i`m sure of it..........:p:
She`s off in the garden swinging on the swings now rather than my chair,with me attatched to it.

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that is the code given on that little sticker hun. same place and size

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OK - so it's a version 6 then...goes and gets manual! :D

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Fantastic. my manual is on the set up disc i think but its a load of words that dont mean anything to me lol.

Give me a cook book anyday!!

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I didn't mean you...I meant me! Just downloaded from the Belkin site...

Hummmm it says the wireless LAN light can have the status of off but it doesn't bloody tell you how to switch it off...oh well - just make sure it's secure - you've done that haven't you?

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Yes thanx Hun Thank you for your effort though.may be in time i will find out how to do it.

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Perhaps.... I bet it's something dead simple like a physical switch on the router or something....

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I think the light just indicates whether it's working or broken, I've got a v4 which doesn't support disabling of wireless but has the light anyway.

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Urm i wouldn't have thought of that!

There is not a switch of any kind on the router there is an ariel and a power cable and 3 ethernet cables and that is it

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If you ever notice that WLAN light flashing then it means someone is using your connection, phone the police.

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Then why indicate in the manual that it can be switched off?

http://www.mswindowspro.net/My%20Stu...ges/Belkin.jpg

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Already checked the manual for you, MrsMac2006! :tu:

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Which it will be if she's using it!

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It IS Belkin we're talking about here;)

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mrsmac2006 isn't using the wireless connection so it should not flash only the individual lights for each ethernet connection should flash rapidly and the WAN light blinking slowly.

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The WLAN light just indicates the status of the router, ie ready to accept wireless connections after a power cycle/reset.

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Hi mrJDGaf, I am using the wireless connection as I dont know if I can turn the wireless off.

the modem light flashes the internet flashes the wireless light has just gone out and come bk on and one of the numbers is flashing everynow and then.

Not sure if this means a lot but i know there is no swich on it to turn it off.

Thanx

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Upside Down-Ternet anyone:)

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I think i am anyway:confused:

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As I've said the wireless can't be disabled but if you have another lead use that instead, much more stable also then you can see if anyone is using the wireless connection.

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WLAN flashing means you are connected wirelessly, the numbered lights represent the wired connection status for each ethernet socket on the rear.

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I do not understand now. Sorry. what do you mean if you have another lead use that instead. how can i tell if someone is using wireless?
what would need connecting to what to.... Aaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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right so my son is using other pc so it is flashing

I have set security up as far as I am aware so its just a case of leaving well alone. Is this right. lol.

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You know the lead used to connect the pc to the router, have you got 1 or 2? I know you only have one plugged in but have you any more spare?

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Crossed lines here, I think. MrsMac said she was 'using' the wireless connection, but, I think, just meant it was enabled. Incidentally, just downloaded the equivalent Belkin manual from the US site, and that DOES have the option to switch off the wireless. Seems to be just the UK version, or perhaps just V6, which doesn't have it.

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I have a cable going from the ethernat port on 1 pc to back of router
then I have cable from second pc ethernet port going into the back of the router.
I have a 3rd cable going from the modem into the back of the router.
:)

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If you've got another then use that and disable the wireless connection on your pc, if not then you're all done.

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Right so 2 of the numbered lights and the WAN light should flash but not the WLAN, unless someone is actually connected to your router wirelessly.

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That would be about right for the Yanks look after your own sodd everyone else!

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right ok. its not flasing at the moment. It only flashes once in a blue moon.
I think you were right in the fact i am not using wireless between my pcs but it is set ready to use if i bought a wireless connecter thingy to put in another pc.
am I right there?

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kids are never happy my son wants to know if he can use the wireless thing for his ds lite

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Yep that's right so as I said before if that WLAN flashes rapidly someone's managed to connect to it and you should tell the police.

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right ok thank you for your help got there in the end!!
I think its the pregnacy making me dizzyer lol

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He can but perhaps someone else would like to take you through that if you wish.

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No probs.

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so what if it goes off and stays off then after a while comes back on and is not flashing its just on.

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Don't worry about that just rapid flashing indicates a connection. Belkins are a bit hit and miss in my experience. Some have a better wireless than others of the exact same type.

If you think you might want to use the wireless side in the future then you should test it out with the DS lite to check how stable it is now before the 28 days from purchase passes or you will need to faff about sending it back to Belkin under the lifetime warranty (best thing about Belkin IMHO). My first Belkin had a very flakey wireless connection but better range than my current one.

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ok thank you dare you give me advice on how to connect the ds!

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Did you go to the router page at http://192.168.2.1 and setup the security as described a few pages back? If not do that first and let me know if anything needs further explanation or is plain wrong.

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My bad, the DS only supports WEP security so you should use that instead of WPA. Select 128-bit WEP check the box below that and then enter a pass phrase that will be used to generate a WEP key. Click apply.

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You'll need to write down the numbers+letters that appear in the empty boxes at the top as these need to be entered in the the DS later.

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Once that's done logout of the router and turn on the DS.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wfc...ds/connect.jsp this might be easier to follow than me trying to take you through it, if you get stuck give a shout here and I'll try to help some more.