v+ dont think ill bother
 

wow i came on here to ask a few things about v+ as im interested in it

first thing i see on here is a full list of problems and faults with the box

shall i hold fire on getting it ?

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i'd go for it (b4 they start charging more!!!) think about how many have been installed,the people on here are only a small representation of V+ users (b4 you all start,i know there will be more that dont post on here who have probs) im talking from personal experience,my wife loves the recordability functions as shes a busy mother of 4,it comes in v.handy.also i am talking from experience as a fault tech in regards to the No of faults visits i get to V+ subs which is virtually non-exisent (my mate in b.burn still has the original 2 he was issued with for swap outs when V+ was launched in ex-ntl) surely that says something.;)

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at the moment im on a prettyg good deal with some discount codes that are oneach month, i dont want to mess up what im currently on, if you understand,

l tv
4mb bb
sky sports package

total approx £24 month

if i was to add the v plus service how much do you think it will cost ? instlalation costs etc? and do i get to keep my existing box, etc i cnt keep up with the different offers and ways of keeping box and costs etc

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neither can i,and i work for em m8!!! someone no doubt will be along shortly to steer you in the right direction.good luck.;)

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Go for it mate its got a few niggles but its a great piece of kit my sister in law went to sky for their sky+ shes regretting it now.

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I am pleased with mine :)

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The box as a whole is very good - I can't imagine being without mine now and i think a lot of complaints are because they are passionate about the whole PVR thang

VM current policy means:

1/ you can't have more than one special deal/offer at a time (so you prolly have to pay full rate for V+ adding)

2/ You will prolly also have to start new 12 month contract

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I'm pleased with mine, I feel for the folks having much grief with theres. The only thing I could possibly moan at is since the firmware upgrade it takes slightly longer to change channels

Oh and 'The Tower' isn't on BBc catch up TV

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I would also say go for it! Yes some people have problems, but I don't think it's a huge percentage of owners. I had an issue once and VM replaced the box. I love the functionality it offers. If only I could use it as a shared drive on my network to copy HD content onto a secondary hard disk. More HD would be good too. But one of the main benefits to me was HDMI, which is superior to Scart, especially if you have a 40+ inch screen. Quality, both picture and sound is much improved over the old Pace box.

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When I added V+ I organised my self a new deal. Very cheap as well.

John

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happy with mine.

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Its a good bit of kit. You must remember usually, as yourself, people register on forums to complain about a product or get help - you rarely see someone taking the time to register to tell people that everythings peachy. (To be honest, you can't even do that around here because the vast majority of people on this forum want you dead if you have a perfectly working service from VM).

My advice would be to ask as many people as you can, but yes. I would recommend the V+ - a fantastic bit of kit.

Nick

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I totally agree with dontpannic. If you look at the source of the negative comments you will see the same members names repeated over and over again. What they lack in numbers they sure make up for in the number of negative posts they make :D




runs quickly away....................................:D

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sounds like a resounding :tu: for this thread mr drummond ;)

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stay away buggy as hell ATM m8

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very constructive sir :rolleyes:

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And this is the sort of person I'm talking about.

Stay away why? Which bugs are there? Can you make a list? Do you actually HAVE V+? False advertising (according to your sig)? How? What are they advertising falsely?

The non-answers to these questions is the sole reason why your post was rubbish. I've been seeing your posts about VM since you got here and it seems you don't have a good word to say about it... :td:

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wot sort of person am i. wot does that mean are you making this personal or ???? and read the forums on all the V+ Boxes. and VM says nothing about the cap when Advertising........ so thats Advertising to me

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Hang on a minute, a chap came on here soliciting opinion on v+ and people are giving it. Some is positive some is negative. This man obviously finds his box as buggy as hell and is entitled to say so in a thread asking for people's opinions. There have been several one line comments praising it and this was just one not praising it. You seem totally unable to accept anyone criticising VM.

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take a look at his avatar and his sig,hes a wind up merchant!!!!!

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Well seeing how dontpannic's signature contains 'Sky are a load of Monkeys' I don't think we can rely on him for objective opinion either, can we?

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fair point,well put :nworthy:

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Thank you. To be honest I just don't understand the ridiculous brand loyalty that seems to go on here. I've had my problems with both VM (well ntl) and sky - I'd definitely have a cable broadband connection if I could (in spite of the mess they've mad of the capping issue) but would probably stick to sky for my tv. I'm sure others have differing opinions. To jump down people's throats just because they prefer one side or another is just insane. To be fair to Safeman, maybe VM have just really ****ed him off. Ntl certainly did that to my neighbour a few years ago.

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I've had a V+ box since February. It's largely faultless and it worked from the off.

The only minor niggle is that sometimes it is slow when changing channels. But not hugely, and not all the time.

I think it's excellent. Having had cable TV now in various forms since 1995, I'm ashamed to say I suddenly feel I don't know how I'd manage without it....which is a bit ridiculous.

But no, I think they're great. Get one straight away!

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just to balance things up,my manager (at VM) is moving to a non-cabled area,he phoned sky to enquire about installation,they quoted something around £60pm for what he wanted,he said,naa,i'll try VM,they had a think about it and offered him sky+,up to 8mb broadband and free evening/weekend calls for £43 (granted hes got to pay bt line rental) but hes quite happy with that after the original quote.;)

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I've had my V+ box for a couple of months now. Aside from the initial issues I had getting all the channels (sorted with a couple of calls), it's not been bad.

There have been a few times where I've had to reboot (no biggie), and other times where On Demand hasn't worked - persistantly selecting the option bringing it up finally, on the whole I'm happy with it.

The picture looks great on my 32" Philips LCD TV, the upscaling makes the SD channels look great and the ONE HD channel is fantastic (when it's not airing a trailer). Before I got my HDTV I also found it cool that you can watch the HD channels in SD.

The slow channel changes take a bit of getting used to, but again, it's no biggie.

Overall, I'd say go for it. The software will be upgraded over time, why miss out on the PVR aspect for a couple of minor glitches that currently exist?

One last thing - yes, there are lots of problems that folks have had brought up on these forums, but like anything - good news is never reported!

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I'm happy with my V+.

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Who could you mean? :D

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V+ gets the :tu: from me, I think it is fab and wouldn't be without it. The upscaling is great and I do not watch any other tv source now. The channel changing is slow but easily overcome by using the tv guide and browsing the channels instead of channel hopping - so much so that I do not use the channel +/- buttons.

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Get the V+ HD box if you want:

-The ability to record 2 channels while watching a 3rd
-The ability to watch HD broadcasting and VOD (yes, yes not many channels but they are coming by years end rumor has it)
-The ability to record your favourite shows automatically with "series link"

The only issues seem to be the slow channel changing, it takes 1 - 4 seconds to change a channel but most people use the EPG anyway unless you like my family who tend to "flip" though the channels.

This will be fixed in an upcoming update. There are more issues if you plan to use the box after midnight but these too are going to be sorted.

It does have some great features, for instance I recorded a movie (White Chicks on FIVE) a few weeks back and watched it a few hours later after watching a program on MTV and I can now watch it as many times as I want.

It is a top notch bit of kit for the price and if you plan to keep your Virgin TV service then I say go for it!

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V+ big thumbs up from me too. OK, initially we had a flakey box and no on-demand, but VM fixed that pretty quick and no trouble since. PVR makes a hell of a difference to how we watch TV. We rarely watch live TV. Just flip through favourites guide and press record on anything we might want to watch that day. Then when we want to watch some TV we just select something previously recorded from the V+ menu. No more ads to sit though either. Win-Win.

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Had my V+ box for nearly a month now (ordered it on June 1st when the new price came in) and I think it's great. No problems at all. On demand slow at times but it was on my samsung. As far as deals go, I'm not altogether sure what deal I'm on as I was on the old family pack from NTL and getting charged £43 a month for phone (plus free evening & weekend calls), L broadband and XL TV. Waiting for my next bill as the V+ was installed partway through the month and so the bill was odd, but I'm expecting it to be less than £40 going on what they have charged me for last month - and I have never rung up to try to get a special deal from them!
I'd advise anyone to go for the V+, it gives so much more flexibility

Tom

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I would say go for it too.

Had ours installed yesterday and would agree the only main problem is speed of channel changing. BUT, I was also quite surprised that Sky + HD suffers from the same issues when I had a go on the brother in laws box plus their supposed faster, more reliable interactive was just as slow as VM's too.

Back to V+, there's also the fact the menus / guide etc look fuzzy if you have the output set to HDMI 1080 / 1080 wide although setting it to 720 solves this.

I've also noticed that it the upscaling of SD programs seems to confuse the auto picture formatting on my Sony LCD. With the V+ output set to Wide RGB, the "smart" setting for programmes broadcast in 4:3 does a good job of filling the screen without it seeming stretched. With it set to HDMI, the same channel makes the TV change to wide and awfuly stretched. Forcing it to smart just massively zooms the centre of the picture. Maybe I just need to play with the settings on the TV though.

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sure does mate, ill giv them a call and see what they offer me

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Just to pick up a couple of issues

It has others, the actual 'main one' is that V+ cannot record things from the buffer - you can watch it but you can not keep it - very frustrating - simple task & V+ is the only PVR that can not do this - a monkey with a hammer could fix this so i'm 'hoping' it will be sorted soon.

unless you have same TV as me (1080 is perfect so it's not a fault) - the P/Q is directly related to the resolutions supported by your display - hence why we have 'a choice' of settings

That's because Auto picture settings are not supported 'at all' by HDMI connection

this is yet 'another' fault with V+ albeit VM have chose not to acknowledge it yet - but enough complaints should hopefully see it sorted


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You are kidding right? My Sky box NEVER gets rebooted, it just sits there quietly doing it's thing. EPG is always spot on. Would you accept having to go and recycle the power on your mains electricity? Thought not! Buy a Tivo and get a PVR that's been done properly, maybe in about 10 years Sky & VM MAY catch up the functionality.

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I would not describe my time with sky+ perfect :)
resetting forgetting series links locking up etc!
all in all sky+ & V+ have been very comparable!
but TIVO is SO much better than any of the other PVR's (including MCE)
it puts them ALL to shame!
wouldnt it be great if TIVO and VM where to do a deal!
V+ at the moment works fine with only minor niggles.. the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages!
I would gofor it :)

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well ive been so busy with things not had chance to call

ill be callnig up tommorow to see what they offer me and if i can afford it

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Well ive struck an amzing deal

the lady at retentions, has upgraded me to tv size XL inc sentanta sports offer, and v+ box, inc installation, also keepingcurrent box and having that installed upstairs.. for a grand total of £1.49 extra per month !!

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I think you misunderstand - the actual picture quality is fantastic on 720 and 1080 wide and my TV supports 1080p, it's the boxes menus and guide that appear fuzzy in 1080 (and ever so slightly so in 720). Other people have reported the same problems in other threads so I'm assuming it's a box software issue.

As far as the upscaling and picture size goes, I've done some more testing and the box does a brilliant job on most channels with both 4:3 and 16:9 broadcasts. Those with a lower bandwidth (some of the Discovery channels, Animal Planet etc), seem to really make it go very pixelly (and stretched with 4:3 programmes). With the V+ output on RGB, the same channel is upscalled brilliantly by my TV so I guess it's a software issue Virgin may one day fix.....

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Ive been watching these V+ threads very closely and im thinking about taking the plunge, the only thing that puzzles me is why do VM not advertise this fab box anywhere, im a subscriber of the XL TV/BB package and havent received anything telling me that it even exists!

If they had advertised it to me I would perhaps taken the plunge earlier.

ADVERTISE THE BL**DY THING VM :D

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check out pg 999 on your V box ;)

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I too have been following with interest the comments on the V+ box and having taken the plunge in to getting a HD TV earlier in the year I would like to start taking advantage of it. However, I'm sure that when I first looked in to getting one a few months back that VM weren't charging £150 to "install" it, now they are. Has anyone else been stung by this amount? Bloody cheek if you ask me seeing as you basically rent the box off them anyway (or has that changed now too?). Puts me off getting one now, as this is now the same tactics as SKY. Anyone know of any deals to avoid this fee?

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I tried to avoid it but the nice lady in Mumbai (or wherever) didn't get the gist of what I was trying to ask. I really should have just been brazen and called up wanting to cancel because Sky HD worked out cheaper and took it from there. Except it didn't!

I'm sure I've read threads on here about people getting it vaived but don't forget once installed, it costs nothing extra. Under the old scheme, it was £10 (or £15) per month plus £75 installation (I think).