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Enuff 04-07-2007 00:31

More repeats, says BBC
 
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Repeat programming will have to increase on the BBC as a consequence of a below-inflation licence-fee settlement, the corporation’s bosses said yesterday
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Maggy 04-07-2007 00:35

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Originally Posted by Dodger444 (Post 34343316)


Well they will be in good company then because every single TV Channel is currently showing repeats..and some are showing them an hour later on the + channels.Has the effect of audiovisual cucumber...;)

Horace 04-07-2007 03:11

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Article is junk. No real information other than targets previously set to reduce repeats may not be met. Even repeats on the BBC tend to be for more watchable than 90% of the junk on 100's of other channels.

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Originally Posted by times online
BBC Three, a youth-orientated channel, was singled out, with the BBC Trust saying that “there was a debate to be had about some of the channel’s programme titles”. Over the past year, BBC Three has shown F*** Off I’m Fat and 34-Stone Teenager Revisited, and it seems that BBC executives now believe that the titles may have dissuaded some viewers from tuning in

I can't see the problem, the titles give a good description of the content, the BBC isn't supposed to become less ratings orientated as stated by the BBC Trust!
BBC Three and BBC Four are the two best things to happen to TV in a long time, innovative original programming and some excellent older programming from the archives. like The Avengers. BBC Three is like BBC Two was years ago before the gardeners moved in and BBC Four like CH4 before idiotic nobodies became famous for no reason other than being famous (and idiotic).

LiamTG 04-07-2007 11:20

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LOL read the article and look at the boss' salaries, a 19k pay drop - oh well I guess his £437,000 salary will have to stretch a little further - he may have to cancel his Sky Movies subscription!

Scrap the licence, let advertising pay for it.

smiffing 04-07-2007 11:23

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I sent them a copy of last years cheque for my licence fee, when they questioned it I told them "it's a repeat"!

LiamTG 04-07-2007 11:30

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Originally Posted by smiffing (Post 34343504)
I sent them a copy of last years cheque for my licence fee, when they questioned it I told them "it's a repeat"!

LMFAO

I would love someone to do that and see them in court!

tweetypie/8 04-07-2007 12:06

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Originally Posted by LiamTG (Post 34343503)
LOL read the article and look at the boss' salaries, a 19k pay drop - oh well I guess his £437,000 salary will have to stretch a little further - he may have to cancel his Sky Movies subscription!

Scrap the licence, let advertising pay for it.

rock on liam :tu: the sooner they bin the licence the better :D

Osem 04-07-2007 12:32

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More repeats from the BBC?? They're just repeating themselves again surely :)

RizzyKing 04-07-2007 13:56

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Yes i agree it is time to get rid of the licence fee but tbh i would settle for being able to somehow block all bbc content and then be exempt from the licence fee. I watch maybe 20-30 mins a week of bbc stuff so don't feel it is fair i pay as much for the licence as someone that watches hours and hours of it.

Maggy 04-07-2007 14:01

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Time to unsubscribe BEFORE this descends into a bash the BBC and the license fee thread.:wavey:

smiffing 04-07-2007 14:23

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34343621)
Yes i agree it is time to get rid of the licence fee but tbh i would settle for being able to somehow block all bbc content and then be exempt from the licence fee. I watch maybe 20-30 mins a week of bbc stuff so don't feel it is fair i pay as much for the licence as someone that watches hours and hours of it.

The licence fee isn't only television, it includes BBC radio as well.

RizzyKing 04-07-2007 15:15

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I only mentioned TV as i never listen to radio of any type. Yes i know i am being personal specific but isn't that what our leisure time is supposedly all about now.

Damien 04-07-2007 19:38

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and website, one of the best, if not the best, news site on the web.

---------- Post added at 18:38 ---------- Previous post was at 18:37 ----------

oh and all the art stuff and promotion and help for young actors/writers/artists. Making programs for schools and such.

on in an hour! 04-07-2007 19:38

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Originally Posted by smiffing (Post 34343504)
I sent them a copy of last years cheque for my licence fee, when they questioned it I told them "it's a repeat"!

:LOL:

TheDaddy 04-07-2007 19:42

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Originally Posted by LiamTG (Post 34343503)
Scrap the licence, let advertising pay for it.

Well thought out argument, ITV, Channels 4 & 5 and SKY would disagree with you though and I hate to think what the schedules would look like

papa smurf 04-07-2007 19:46

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scrap the licence fee, float it on the stock market and let it sink or swim,like every other company has to

TheDaddy 04-07-2007 19:52

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34343933)
scrap the licence fee, float it on the stock market and let it sink or swim,like every other company has to

Except it wouldn't be them that sinks, more likely it would be the other independent channels that go under first

papa smurf 04-07-2007 19:57

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tv needs a good shake up it dreadfull , life jacket anyone;)

on in an hour! 04-07-2007 19:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34343933)
scrap the licence fee, float it on the stock market and let it sink or swim,like every other company has to

well said :clap: (did you get my PM m8??)

papa smurf 04-07-2007 20:04

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Originally Posted by on in an hour! (Post 34343945)
well said :clap: (did you get my PM m8??)

no nothing recieved

TheDaddy 04-07-2007 20:05

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34343941)
tv needs a good shake up it dreadfull , life jacket anyone;)

and less money in the pot will make it better?

Damien 04-07-2007 20:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34343941)
tv needs a good shake up it dreadfull , life jacket anyone;)

Well TV is excellent if you know where to look. Some of the best TV ever made is being made now. The Wire in the USA is contender for best ever show imo. As for the UK the BBC is still making excellent television, an example of NEW shows from the Beeb this year:

Mitchell and Webb Look
Andrew Marr's History of Britain
Jekyll

to add too

Doctor Who
Have I got News for you
Planet Earth
Louis Theroux Documentrys
Extras
Life on Mars
Hustle

As well as some other good one off Documentrys and I think there was a one off Drama that I have forgotten about?

That aired this year. All that in one season, no other channel American or UK can claim they have a line up like that. Also unlike some of the other channels all those above were made by the BBC by British people. Its something to be proud off not to destory.

Would another channel have commited so much into Planet Earth? Or even done it? Would any other channel have taken risks with stuff like the Office? No.

The other channels are lucky to have any orignal british programming. Name me some new english shows from outside the BBC that were of such high quality? Without the BBC we would be like France and other European countrys showing mostly reality programs, poorly written soaps and importing the rest from America.

The BBC is one the best channels in the world. It promotes the UK by ensuring we produce some of the best actors, shows and writers in the world (Hugh Laurie in House, The Office in America, Rome and Band of brothers with HBO/BBC, Michelle Ryan in Bionic Woman on NBC?). Getting rid of the BBC would be a massive blow to British culture and decrease the quality of our programming. The other channels would lose money and take less risks (not that they take much) and the BBC would take a lot less and soon this countrys TV will be America 2 and show nothing of what we can do.

papa smurf 04-07-2007 20:30

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34343963)
Well TV is excellent if you know where to look. Some of the best TV ever made is being made now. The Wire in the USA is contender for best ever show imo. As for the UK the BBC is still making excellent television, an example of NEW shows from the Beeb this year:

Mitchell and Webb Look
Andrew Marr's History of Britain
Jekyll

to add too

Doctor Who
Have I got News for you
Planet Earth
Louis Theroux Documentrys
Extras
Life on Mars
Hustle

As well as some other good one off Documentrys and I think there was a one off Drama that I have forgotten about?

That aired this year. All that in one season, no other channel American or UK can claim they have a line up like that. Also unlike some of the other channels all those above were made by the BBC by British people. Its something to be proud off not to destory.

Would another channel have commited so much into Planet Earth? Or even done it? Would any other channel have taken risks with stuff like the Office? No.

The other channels are lucky to have any orignal british programming. Name me some new english shows from outside the BBC that were of such high quality? Without the BBC we would be like France and other European countrys showing mostly reality programs, poorly written soaps and importing the rest from America.

The BBC is one the best channels in the world. It promotes the UK by ensuring we produce some of the best actors, shows and writers in the world (Hugh Laurie in House, The Office in America, Rome and Band of brothers with HBO/BBC, Michelle Ryan in Bionic Woman on NBC?). Getting rid of the BBC would be a massive blow to British culture and decrease the quality of our programming. The other channels would lose money and take less risks (not that they take much) and the BBC would take a lot less and soon this countrys TV will be America 2 and show nothing of what we can do.

well you obviously like wathing bbc programs and thats fine ,thing is i dont like paying for you to be able to watch them ,thats unfair,and thats the problem i have with the licence fee,i'm paying for your entertainment :td:

TheDaddy 04-07-2007 20:34

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34343984)
i have with the licence fee,i'm paying for your entertainment :td:

Chances are the government would introduce a tv tax if the licence was abolished, either that or give it free and use it as a vehicle for their own machinations

Damien 04-07-2007 22:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34343984)
well you obviously like wathing bbc programs and thats fine ,thing is i dont like paying for you to be able to watch them ,thats unfair,and thats the problem i have with the licence fee,i'm paying for your entertainment :td:

It's a nice way to put it but I dont think the issue is as simple as that. In the same way that governments have support for art although many who pay the taxes dont go to art gallerys. Theres culture at stake.

This is more than their high quality of programming, which is very high. Its about the BBC giving many young actors a chance, many new ideas a chance, and making a lot of British shows. Without them what we have left. You really need to see what TV is like in European countrys to see just how lucky we are.

Imagine all the actors, shows, musicians, writers and so on that we would not have if we did not have the BBC. We would not have TV which is respected world wide or a news service which is. This is before we get into the other stuff the BBC does for schools, other artists, they do projects (recording memories from WW2 for example), and so on.

RizzyKing 05-07-2007 00:01

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Young actors if they had the talent would get breakthroughs on other channels. Why should i and the majority millions that dont' watch\listen to anything on the BBC have to continually pay for it. I am sure they would survive if they went down the road ITV have gone down jjst wouldn't be able to have such huge numbers working for them and wouldn't have such great salaries at the top i can live with that. If you want and enjoy the BBC all power to you......pay for it like i do with my cable.

smiffing 05-07-2007 00:34

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I don't think I'd miss Norton, Clarey, Winton etc at all!

TheDaddy 05-07-2007 00:47

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34344274)
I am sure they would survive if they went down the road ITV have gone down jjst wouldn't be able to have such huge numbers working for them and wouldn't have such great salaries at the top i can live with that. If you want and enjoy the BBC all power to you......pay for it like i do with my cable.

I am sure they'd survive as well, the programming would suffer, no more public interest broadcasting for instance, not to sure most of your cable channels would survive though, not at their current price at any rate

Damien 05-07-2007 00:57

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34344274)
Young actors if they had the talent would get breakthroughs on other channels. Why should i and the majority millions that dont' watch\listen to anything on the BBC have to continually pay for it. I am sure they would survive if they went down the road ITV have gone down jjst wouldn't be able to have such huge numbers working for them and wouldn't have such great salaries at the top i can live with that. If you want and enjoy the BBC all power to you......pay for it like i do with my cable.

ITV is a example for the BBC not to go down that route. ITV is terrible at the moment, reality programs and when they attempt drama they just cannot do it and fall back on police/crime dramas. They tried to start a new TV show, so what did they do? Lewis! Another crime drama based on a old ITV crime drama. They do not do many new shows either.

Where would they get a breakthrough? Sky has 'dream team' which is made in the UKL and sometimes a poor documentry usually something stupid 'Why chavs are KOOL!!!!!' or such like. The other cable channels are mostly repeats and american shows. C5 dont really like British shows. Channel 4 do a couple but again a lot is american or reality programs. Documentrys sometimes. Leaves us with ITV which make few British Dramas/Comedys. Certainly nothing near the amount of the BBC.

So where would they get their breakthough? Would The Office have been made? Would Fry and Laurie be around? (No House with Laurie). and so on and so on. A bunch of famous actors started at the Beeb so I am not going to list them.

But where would all these talented British actors and comedians have come from without the BBC?

Not to mention of other channels would actually be even less likely to do anything other than the cheapest, mass-market appeal shows if the BBC entered the ad market.

Maggy 05-07-2007 01:12

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34344274)
Young actors if they had the talent would get breakthroughs on other channels. Why should i and the majority millions that dont' watch\listen to anything on the BBC have to continually pay for it. I am sure they would survive if they went down the road ITV have gone down jjst wouldn't be able to have such huge numbers working for them and wouldn't have such great salaries at the top i can live with that. If you want and enjoy the BBC all power to you......pay for it like i do with my cable.

Apart from ITV,Channel 4 and Channel 5 who are alll desperately chasing the same advertising funding I can't think of another channel that has anything like the funding to support finding new talent to any great degree.

Oh damn now I'll have to unsubscrbe again...


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