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j52c 29-06-2007 09:07

London bomb made safe
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm

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r1ch 29-06-2007 09:22

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Wow - I don't often say this nowadays but well done to the police!

Hopefully there will be plenty of evidence that the offenders were expecting to be blown up...

TheDaddy 29-06-2007 09:29

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Originally Posted by r1ch (Post 34339270)
Wow - I don't often say this nowadays but well done to the police!

and well done to the vigilant member of the public that spotted something suspicious, a lesson to us all perhaps :tu:

bopdude 29-06-2007 09:31

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Mmmmm, I'll keep an open mind on this one. Untill this

" potentially viable explosive device "


Is made clearer, they're not saying it is / was a bomb, we'll see :shrug:

Graham M 29-06-2007 09:36

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Could be a firework for all we know? lol

bopdude 29-06-2007 09:45

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Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34339284)
Could be a firework for all we know? lol

Exactly, they have not said it was a bomb or indeed an explosive, just potentially viable :shrug: Seems to me that that covers a whole lot of things :dozey:

The title of the thread couldn't be more misleading, should have said suspected !!

Graham M 29-06-2007 09:47

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Could also be bags of flour? :)

TheDaddy 29-06-2007 09:53

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Or gas canisters rigged to explode? Perhaps

bopdude 29-06-2007 09:56

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34339295)
Or gas canisters rigged to explode? Perhaps

IMO, if were that, then they would have chosen another statement, I think this is gonna turn out to be something completely innocent. At least I hope so, we'll see :tu:

TheDaddy 29-06-2007 10:04

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Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34339296)
IMO, if were that, then they would have chosen another statement, I think this is gonna turn out to be something completely innocent. At least I hope so, we'll see :tu:

Sadly it looks anything but innocent :(


Officers carried out a controlled explosion after reports of a suspicious vehicle parked in The Haymarket shortly before 0200 BST (0100 GMT).

The immediate area was cordoned off while police examined what they described as a "potentially viable explosive device".

There are unconfirmed reports that gas canisters were removed from the back of the car, close to Piccadilly Circus

Graham M 29-06-2007 11:06

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Isnt it funny how this happens on basically the first day of a new government? No explosion, noone harmed, etc?

TheDaddy 29-06-2007 11:14

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Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34339332)
Isnt it funny how this happens on basically the first day of a new government? No explosion, noone harmed, etc?

I thought that earlier, didn't they hold those airport exercises to cover something up a few years back?

Gareth 29-06-2007 11:14

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It can be looked at from both directions... it's a "good" choice for terrorists to choose to get their message across, and it's a good day for bent politicians to stage an event (if that's what you're implying).

I've not read/heard much about this yet, so I'm gonna hold off making any decisions for the moment.

Graham M 29-06-2007 11:20

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Yeah both ways could be seen as my meaning Gareth :)

Derek 29-06-2007 11:45

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It seems a strange time to attempt an attack. I'm not sure how busy London is at that time on a Friday morning but I would have thought Friday/Saturday nights or rush hours would be 'better' times for an attack.
If this was an attempted attack by an Radical Muslim group they also have form for multiple simultaneous attacks and not just a one-off. There is the possibility this was a house-warming to Gordon Brown and thrown together at the last minute but that doesn't ring true to me (for a start the timetable for GB taking over has been known for ages)

My personal feeling is the car was on it's way to join some others before an organised attack in the next week or so and when the driver lost control he did a runner rather than explain why he has several gas canisters and bags of nails in the back seat.

I guess more will become clear when they release CCTV of him and he becomes the most wanted man in Britain. Or more likely the most wanted man in Europe on his way to Pakistan/Afghanistan/Saudi etc. after legging it on Eurostar first thing this morning.

Halcyon 29-06-2007 11:53

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Thank goodness that whatever the device was, it didnt go off.
That is the most important thing.

As has been said already, I think we do need to be extra careful at the moment, especially in the lead up to 7/7.

Damien 29-06-2007 15:13

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34339338)
I thought that earlier, didn't they hold those airport exercises to cover something up a few years back?

Werent people arrested for that? It turned out to be a plot of some kind didnt it?

TheDaddy 29-06-2007 15:33

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34339500)
Werent people arrested for that? It turned out to be a plot of some kind didnt it?

I really can't remember, I just remember seeing tanks at airports and the like

Damien 29-06-2007 15:42

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Nor Can I, I might be confusing it with the 2006 plot.

Hugh 29-06-2007 15:47

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34339514)
I really can't remember, I just remember seeing tanks at airports and the like

BBC

Perceived threat, but I can't remember if anything was ever disclosed, besides it was personally authorised by TB.

Xaccers 29-06-2007 16:36

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How's the postal strike doing on the news?

Maggy 29-06-2007 17:29

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34339560)
How's the postal strike doing on the news?

It's been mentioned..which why I realised that I hadn't got my wage slip.:)

handyman 29-06-2007 17:36

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34339368)
My personal feeling is the car was on it's way to join some others before an organised attack in the next week or so and when the driver lost control he did a runner rather than explain why he has several gas canisters and bags of nails in the back seat.

He's not going to get his deposit back on those gas tanks :-)

Derek 29-06-2007 17:38

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Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34339623)
He's not going to get his deposit back on those gas tanks :-)

Nope. And seeing the story has changed somewhat to being the ambulance crew say the car with smoke in it I may have to change my initial opinion.

etccarmageddon 29-06-2007 17:43

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34339627)
And seeing the story has changed somewhat to being the ambulance crew say the car with smoke in it I may have to change my initial opinion.

eh? I've read that sentence 3 times and still aint got a clue what you're on about!

Derek 29-06-2007 17:46

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon (Post 34339636)
eh? I've read that sentence 3 times and still aint got a clue what you're on about!

Well initially the story was someone had crashed the car into the bins and done a runner.
A bit later on the story changed to being that an ambulance crew were called to Tiger Tiger (if its anything like the one in Glasgow a vet might have been more appropriate) and while treating someone noticed a car nearby with smoke coming from it.

etccarmageddon 29-06-2007 18:47

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yikes - thanks, I understand now.

Osem 29-06-2007 21:52

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Just heard DAC Peter Clarke (Head of New Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command) confirming that a second and very similar car bomb was left in a neighbouring street last night. Apparently it was towed away to a car pound due to a routine parking offence and later found by police to contain similar explosives.

Xaccers 29-06-2007 23:17

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34339858)
Just heard DAC Peter Clarke (Head of New Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command) confirming that a second and very similar car bomb was left in a neighbouring street last night. Apparently it was towed away to a car pound due to a routine parking offence and later found by police to contain similar explosives.

:rofl:
Sorry, just had an image of someone going to collect their car from the pound after paying their fine only to have it destroyed by the car with a bomb in it (with no one getting hurt of course).
That would be a seriously bad day!

Chris 30-06-2007 00:23

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34339858)
Just heard DAC Peter Clarke (Head of New Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command) confirming that a second and very similar car bomb was left in a neighbouring street last night. Apparently it was towed away to a car pound due to a routine parking offence and later found by police to contain similar explosives.

And so on the one hand we have a preoccupied ambulance crew attending to a load of drunk clubbers staggering out of Tiger Tiger at 2am but still with enough spare wits to spot something wrong with the first car ... while on the other hand we have some jobsworth council traffic 'warden' who lifted the car onto the back of his lorry without at any point thinking there was anything strange about all the cans of petrol and gas loaded into it. :erm:

yesman 30-06-2007 00:23

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It seems that the news of these averted explosions are quite serious, i.e. Al Queda linked, thank goodness they were averted.

No link as yet............just heard the accusation on 5 live, it could be tenuous, but then again it might not.

News of this is still being reported, make of it what you will.

danielf 30-06-2007 01:01

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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34339947)
And so on the one hand we have a preoccupied ambulance crew attending to a load of drunk clubbers staggering out of Tiger Tiger at 2am but still with enough spare wits to spot something wrong with the first car ... while on the other hand we have some jobsworth council traffic 'warden' who lifted the car onto the back of his lorry without at any point thinking there was anything strange about all the cans of petrol and gas loaded into it. :erm:

Ermmm, the ambulance crew saw smoke coming from the first car. Perhaps the 'jobsworth council traffic 'warden'' (your words) dealt with a car that didn't have smoke coming from it, or otherwise cried out 'bomb inside'? :rolleyes:

Damien 30-06-2007 01:31

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Hope there are not others.

I wonder if these bombs were planned in order to take advantage of a new PM, Hoping to catch the government on the back foot?

Osem 30-06-2007 10:24

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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34339947)
And so on the one hand we have a preoccupied ambulance crew attending to a load of drunk clubbers staggering out of Tiger Tiger at 2am but still with enough spare wits to spot something wrong with the first car ... while on the other hand we have some jobsworth council traffic 'warden' who lifted the car onto the back of his lorry without at any point thinking there was anything strange about all the cans of petrol and gas loaded into it. :erm:


Well it is still early days yet and we don't know whether the second car's contents were clearly visible or not. Having said that I think quite a few people wouldn't necessarily associate petrol cans and gas cannisters with potential bombs - most people I've talked to about this don't seem to appreciate the explosive potential of gas cannisters. Although the good news is that many more people will now do just that, it wouldn't be hard for a budding terrorist to cover up the contents of any such vehicle or just use something like a van.

It'll be interesting to find out why these devices didn't go off - was it a technical problem of did something else happen which prevented them being detonated?

NitroNutter 01-07-2007 01:18

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Maybe they were in strategic locations piosed to strike by gaining entry inside the ring of steel in advance for some upcoming event, hence why they had not gone off yet, certainly looks like coincidental locations to Picadilly and Trafalgar Square and perhaps something marching in between those two locations. Mercedes were probably used so they didn't look so out of place.

on in an hour! 01-07-2007 01:50

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34340058)
Well it is still early days yet and we don't know whether the second car's contents were clearly visible or not. Having said that I think quite a few people wouldn't necessarily associate petrol cans and gas cannisters with potential bombs - most people I've talked to about this don't seem to appreciate the explosive potential of gas cannisters. Although the good news is that many more people will now do just that, it wouldn't be hard for a budding terrorist to cover up the contents of any such vehicle or just use something like a van.

It'll be interesting to find out why these devices didn't go off - was it a technical problem of did something else happen which prevented them being detonated?

apparently there was a mobile detonating device on the dashboard of the car near tiger tiger which a policeman removed!! bigger balls than me :tu:

AdamD 01-07-2007 02:18

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This is showing on the BBC news website
LATEST: Two people held in Cheshire in connection with the Glasgow and London terror alerts.

Osem 01-07-2007 10:48

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Originally Posted by on in an hour! (Post 34340741)
apparently there was a mobile detonating device on the dashboard of the car near tiger tiger which a policeman removed!! bigger balls than me :tu:

Yeah it's at times like these that we should all pay tribute to the bravery of those responsible for keeping us safe!

WELL DONE GUYS :nworthy::clap:

Damien 02-07-2007 16:50

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Controlled Explosion at the Hospital that the Glasgow lot were taken too.

BBKing 03-07-2007 09:13

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most people I've talked to about this don't seem to appreciate the explosive potential of gas cannisters
Me, for one. How explosive is something highly visible that isn't actually a bomb with a limited air supply, exactly.

File under 'Not Scary', please.

Osem 03-07-2007 09:47

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Good for you BBKing no doubt you'll be volunteering your expert services to the bomb disposal people then so they can spend their time dealing with real threats.

NitroNutter 03-07-2007 11:06

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34342600)
Me, for one. How explosive is something highly visible that isn't actually a bomb with a limited air supply, exactly.

File under 'Not Scary', please.

Umm. 2 cars packed with gas and petrol and stacks of nails, one each end of a march to cause maximum carnage each end and send both ends of the march in a panic towards each other, not scary ? I guess not if your one of the drivers as your likely to be the first dead if it does actually go off as expected. It also now appears this and the glasgow attack are very much linked. The threads should perhaps be merged and retitled appropriatly.

Xaccers 03-07-2007 16:07

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What you have to remember is:

Car with petrol, nails, gas canisters, vapour parked by the side of the road = scary

Car with petrol, nails, gas canisters, vapour parked by the side of the road but informed after investigation that it wouldn't have exploded = not scary


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