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domo247 24-06-2007 10:59

Gordon Brown's initial Cabinet?
 
So who you do think will be in Gordon Browns initial cabinet?

I hope Ruth Kelly is kicked right out, even she has nothing department at the mome

you can select your cabinet for brown here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...cs/6704431.stm

TheNorm 24-06-2007 11:42

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I think he's going to need one of these cabinets...


Damien 24-06-2007 11:59

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Milband, I hope, will be there and quite high.

Mick 24-06-2007 12:03

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Does it matter? - Labour will be out at the next election - That day cannot come too quickly for me.

Damien 24-06-2007 12:07

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Maybe not, Brown might be able to give Labour a boost. Blair gone will also help. Next election will be close but I think Labour might get the most streets , maybe not a majority however.

Mick 24-06-2007 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34335309)
Maybe not, Brown might be able to give Labour a boost.

:rofl: For a little moment there I thought you was actually being serious. Oh, :erm: you were! :disturbd:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Blair gone will also help. Next election will be close but I think Labour might get the most streets , maybe not a majority however.

Bliar gone won't make a difference. It's still old Labour 'riff raff', running the show.

Damien 24-06-2007 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34335320)
:rofl: For a little moment there I thought you was actually being serious. Oh, :erm: you were! :disturbd:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6234048.stm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC
A poll for the Observer gives Labour a clear lead over the Tories.
It is the first time the party has been put ahead of the Conservatives for eight months.

Blair has been the symbol for most of the negitive press and feeling towards Labour. A new PM that is not tainted by Iraq and Spin. Brown has always appeared detacted from New Labour, it will be harder for the press to attack brown and it will give Labour a new face and image.

The election will be close

Mick 24-06-2007 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34335337)

Worthless poll consisting of a very minute sample of people surveyed compared to millions and millions of people eligible to vote at the General Election. At the end of the day - this is the only poll that will count.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
Blair has been the symbol for most of the negitive press and feeling towards Labour. A new PM that is not tainted by Iraq and Spin. Brown has always appeared detacted from New Labour, it will be harder for the press to attack brown and it will give Labour a new face and image.

The election will be close

Rubbish - Bliar out won't make a difference to Labour's permanently tarnished image.

domo247 24-06-2007 13:03

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[QUOTE=Mick;34335342]Worthless poll consisting of a very minute sample of people surveyed compared to millions and millions of people eligible to vote at the General Election. At the end of the day - this is the only poll that will count.

QUOTE]


Such polls generally proof to be very accurate and reflective of the population as a whole.

Osem 24-06-2007 13:16

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Good question -who's Brown going to have in his cabinet?

I mean he's inherited (perhaps he should be taxed on that :) ) an embarrassment of riches when it comes to trustworthy, loyal, high calibre men and women to fill the available posts hasn't he! :rolleyes:

Just look at the candidates for Deputy PM - a veritable who's who of serious ministerial talent if ever there was one and following on from John Prescott as they do, a clear indicator of the significance of this demanding post to New Labour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...24/npols24.xml

Anyway, back to the Cabinet, perhaps someone who knows more about these things than I do will pop along here shortly and come up with a list of all the glowing successes the prospective ministerial candidates can lay claim to. I'm sure we'll all be very interested to see their achievements.

...........now where's Damien when you need him? ............





:D

Damien 24-06-2007 14:52

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Who knows? They shuffle around the roles a lot and any credit for success is claimed by a whole load of people.

24 hour drinking is just one of the successes.

homealone 24-06-2007 15:05

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I can't get the scenes during the 'cabinet meeting' in Dr Who, yesterday, out of my mind - even more worrying is how much of a good idea it seems to be :erm: :D

Tezcatlipoca 24-06-2007 15:10

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ROFL.

So, who'd be the better PM? The Master, or Gordon Brown? :D

TheDaddy 24-06-2007 15:12

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34335472)
ROFL.

So, who'd be the better PM? The Master, or Gordon Brown? :D

One and the same mate, one and the same :Yikes:

Damien 24-06-2007 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34335474)
One and the same mate, one and the same :Yikes:

Gordon Brown is a timelord :Yikes: Did he change form again?

Cool :D

Osem 24-06-2007 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34335449)
Who knows? They shuffle around the roles a lot and any credit for success is claimed by a whole load of people.

24 hour drinking is just one of the successes.


24hr drinking in the drunken yob capital of Europe - well if that's the best they can offer Brown is going to be in BIG trouble lol

Damien 24-06-2007 17:01

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24 hour drinking was one example, the reason I brought it up is how unpopular it was and how quiet everyone has been now it turns out it worked.

Osem 24-06-2007 17:32

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Well whether or not it's a success depends on what the real aim was doesn't it. If the main goal was to reduce tensions and friction amongst the puiblic at closing time by staggering hours then it may well have worked. If the aim was to make younger people more relaxed about alcohol and thereby reduce the sort of binge drinking which is becoming almost endemic amongst certain sections of society then I'm not sure it's worked at all.

Damien 24-06-2007 17:40

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34335607)
Well whether or not it's a success depends on what the real aim was doesn't it. If the main goal was to reduce tensions and friction amongst the puiblic at closing time by staggering hours then it may well have worked. If the aim was to make younger people more relaxed about alcohol and thereby reduce the sort of binge drinking which is becoming almost endemic amongst certain sections of society then I'm not sure it's worked at all.

I dont think it was ever aimed at young drinkers, either legal or otherwise (underage drinking should not be affected at all). After all people would then go to a club or drink at home after closing time.

It was simply designed to avoid the scenes on a friday/saturday night when everyone gets let loose into the streets at the same time fueled by drink. All the violence as you mentioned. It could have also been seen as a way to make people stagger their drinking since they no longer have a deadline of 11pm to get their drinks down.

Besides all of which, 11pm is a stupid time to stop serving drinks ;)

etccarmageddon 24-06-2007 18:06

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34335472)
ROFL.

So, who'd be the better PM? The Master, or Gordon Brown? :D

I'd say the most evil of the 2 would be best.

Cobbydaler 24-06-2007 18:09

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon (Post 34335660)
I'd say the most evil of the 2 would be best.

GB then... :D;)

Tezcatlipoca 24-06-2007 19:17

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Harriet Harman is now Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, & also Party Chair.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6234692.stm

She isn't going to be Deputy PM though.



Brown is now Labour Leader, & becomes PM on Wednesday -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6234048.stm


I wonder if Jack Straw will go back to being Foreign Secretary? He ran Brown's campaign, & is currently Leader of the House of Commons (after being demoted by Blair to that position from Foreign Secretary, like Robin Cook before him).

Osem 24-06-2007 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34335615)
I dont think it was ever aimed at young drinkers, either legal or otherwise (underage drinking should not be affected at all). After all people would then go to a club or drink at home after closing time.

It was simply designed to avoid the scenes on a friday/saturday night when everyone gets let loose into the streets at the same time fueled by drink. All the violence as you mentioned. It could have also been seen as a way to make people stagger their drinking since they no longer have a deadline of 11pm to get their drinks down.

Besides all of which, 11pm is a stupid time to stop serving drinks ;)

Well I don't know about you but I never stop serving drinks at 11pm :)

Damien 24-06-2007 19:34

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I wonder if Jack Straw will go back to being Foreign Secretary? He ran Brown's campaign, & is currently Leader of the House of Commons (after being demoted by Blair to that position from Foreign Secretary, like Robin Cook before him).
He might get Home Sec or Browns old job (be intresting to see who gets that)

etccarmageddon 24-06-2007 19:34

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34335665)
GB then... :D;)

of course.

Osem 24-06-2007 19:40

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Ah yes Ms Harman - she's the one who likes fast cars isn't she?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2748411.stm

As Solicitor General it really was very fortunate that she was only accidentally doing 99mph in a 70mph zone wasn't it - still it's an easy mistake :rolleyes:

Damien 24-06-2007 19:40

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34335751)
Well I don't know about you but I never stop serving drinks at 11pm :)

:beer::disturbd:


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