Payouts for early-release prisoners
 

Has the world gone completely mad?? Or is it just Blairs Govt?

Prisoners released early are to receive a cash payout of up to £172 to compensate them for loss of bed and board, the Government has said.

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...isoners/571047

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Why does nothing about this situation surprise me?

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I think it's a good idea, considering they can't claim the dole until their formal release date, what are the other options, let them use it as an excuse to commit crime?

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So this is a taster of Browns Government, I said he would be as bad as The poodle if not worse :Yikes:

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Fine if they commit another crime put them back in, How hard can that be.

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Pretty hard, considering thats why they are being let out early in the first place

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Then we need to be building more prisons or buying prison ships, This so called Government needs to stop wasting tax payers money on illegal wars and start spending that money on this country's pressing needs.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

Bill, they are building prisons now but they should have done it much earlier instead of advising courts to stop sending all but the most serious offenders to prison.

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If only i could win the lottery, I would be out of this **** hole faster than a greased Wiesel down a ferret hole.

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Personally, if I was in jail, I would be happy to pay the govt to be released early.
What does it say about UK jails that prisoners are to be compensated for being let out early? Is it a bit like compensation for your holiday being cut short? :disturbd:

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I think most prisoners would pay to be released early as well, if they could ;)

Calling it 'compensation' sounds like a cheap tabloid headline to me, what are prisoners expected to live on upon release, lets give them a chance to sort their lives out and if they screw it up they have no one to blame but themselves

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We should firstly be asking ourselves the unaskable question: why are we in a prison crisis? Why is the prison population swelling? When we address the causes, no more prisons will need to be built. Of course, this never enters the main stream press where we are presented the only solution "BUY PRISON SHIPS".

Otherwise we'll end up like the US which incarcerates more people than anywhere in the world, even though it has fewer population than most places.

This sounds like a good idea to me, otherwise an ex-con, newly released would just go out and commit another crime to get some money. Rehab is what prison ought to be about.

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Not so much compensated as being given money to live on as we can't find prison places for them. The real scandal is why there aren't enough prison places, which stems from the question of why we sent so many more people to prison in the first place. It seems our kneejerk punishment mindset in this country is incapable of thinking through the consequences of our decisions.

RXP - :tu:

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Remember, last time we tried shipping prisoners off to an island, they retaliated and gave us Neigbours!



Just to make sure I understand, prisoners released early aren't able to get JSA etc until their original release date right?
So they're given up to £172 (I'm right in thinking that many get less than that yeah?) to cover that period so they don't have to resort to crime to survive yeah?
And the £172 is less than it would cost for them to remain inside?
So, what's the problem?

Are people objecting to early release prisoners being given an alternative to crime?

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More like, they retaliated and won't let most of us move there :D

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I suppose we should be grateful that the "lock'em up and throw away the key" gang aren't in control of the country - think about how much cash would be given out then.

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so are you one of the "Let them out and compensate them gang then" ? Me i want to see someone who has been sent to jail for a reason do his or her sentence and not be released early with a compensation payment which is what this in my opinion.

If we did not spend as much on killing brown people with Oil we might be able to build the jails we need.

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So when a prisoner is released on time and goes and signs on, is that compensation as well, perhaps if the Labour government hadn't been banging more and more people up for crimes that never used to be considered worthy of a custodial sentence, without building more prisons, we wouldn't be in this mess but considering the exact same thing happened under a conservative government I wouldn't be so sure

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No, I'm one of the "locking them up doesn't always work" gang.

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You should avoid Jail is as many cases as possible where the person is not a danger to the public. A jail sentence is a place were you meet other criminals and get your future propects cut, both of which can lead to more crime as well as being expensive to the country.

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FGS! In another thread

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...-absconds.html

I alluded to Bliar's get out of jail free card. Well now it seems it's get out of jail free and have have some taxpayers cash too! :mad:

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it could be funded by charging innocent prisoners for board & lodge when they are pardoned ....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1517215.ece

:(

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So we should pay them once they are let out? They screwed up once already, thats why they were in jail!......and we should pay them for that?!:erm:

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I'm objecting to prisoners being paid to not be in jail! What is this? Christmas?!

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No we should pay them because they aren't entitled to social security, personally I don't want them turning up in court trying to excuse re offending due to being released from prison with no means to support themselves

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Are ex prisoners not entitled to the doll? I didn't know that :erm:
Thats terrible! How the hell are they meant to support themselves till they get a job?! :confused:

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Thats f*cked up!! :erm::mad::(

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they made the mistake of being innocent - whereas if you are not only guilty, but an heroin addict, as well, you can get compensation for not being provided with drugs ...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6142416.stm

:(

Something is wrong with our criminal 'justice' system & I think we should be seriously looking at using prison only as a last resort, for people who need to be segregated because they are a danger to society. Not so they can be 'punished'.

In the meantime, some kind of workable community based solution will need to be established, as imo it is better to deal with the problem at its source - for example, if the attitude towards, so called 'petty' crime, like buying cheap booze & baccy & 'dodgy' DVDs was different. If people didn't turn a blind eye to stuff they pick up at pawnbrokers & boot sales, etc, etc, etc

- then maybe we could start to turn things round???

- exits singing about little fluffy clouds :dozey:

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Well this lot now are getting up to £172 to cover them until they can sign on.
It shows how close most of them are to being released anyway, and probably saves money as I'm pretty sure it costs more to keep them in prison.

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My only concern is what sort of prisoners are being released early. We have had the bs off this government before about only "prisoners that pose no threat being released" and they then released murderers, rapists and paedophiles. Build more prisons and toughen up the justice system so that those who really belong in prison go there for the maximum time possible.

As for them being paid money because they can't claim benefit is it that hard to give them an official letter to hand in at the jobcentre. Seems another case of lazyass government to me.

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I believe its those due to be released soon anyway, so they're not saying "Hey Killer, forget about the next 20 years you're due to serve, you can go now" :)
Course as you say, this all relies on them getting it right...