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Barewolf 19-06-2007 18:38

Webspace
 
Apparently I am only limited to 55mb of webspace with Virgin. I have spent ages on my website but now when i am uploading content I am getting that i have exceeded disk quota.

According to Virgin this could be because ive ran out of space, but I still have lots more work i want to do on my website, and he said that theres no way to increase the webspace from say 55 to 100mb

55mb Isnt enough for what i want. So unless i compress ALL my images on the site to half the size to free up about 10mb then i am screwed.

How am i supposed to know how much webspace i have used and how much i have left? I use terrapin FTP and theres no option in there that says ive uploaded ##mb of data.

I'm so annoyed right now, they should provide more space or give an option to upgrade your webspace. they are upgrading to 20mb from 10mb but webspace is un affected. :td:

zing_deleted 19-06-2007 18:42

Re: Webspace
 
why are you annoyed? everything with you is a crisis man bet you never relax do ya??? Get a cheap host for your site instead of VM

Barewolf 19-06-2007 18:46

Re: Webspace
 
im annoyed because i dont know how much space i have left, it doesnt say anywhere.

I thought 55mb would have been enough but now if i half the content i have on my site it will take weeks, compressing all the images and re adding them to my webpages.

It should say you have 5mb of storage left and then you know not to upload too much data.

rockabillybass 19-06-2007 18:47

Re: Webspace
 
http://www.smartftp.com

Can't go wrong with that...

Raistlin 19-06-2007 18:48

Re: Webspace
 
Surely though you *do* know two things:

1. How much space they gave you to start with, and
2. What files you are uploading.

If you know that you only get 55mb of space you just need to keep an eye on how much you're uploading.

zing_deleted 19-06-2007 18:49

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barewolf (Post 34331670)
im annoyed because i dont know how much space i have left, it doesnt say anywhere.

I thought 55mb would have been enough but now if i half the content i have on my site it will take weeks, compressing all the images and re adding them to my webpages.

It should say you have 5mb of storage left and then you know not to upload too much data.

you should have kept track . You cant expect everything to do your work for you. Either compress the site or get a host they are you options

MovedGoalPosts 19-06-2007 18:49

Re: Webspace
 
No doubt you have a copy of your website on yourlocal computer - after all you wouldn't want to rely on just the copy on the remote webserver without your backup. From your local computer you'll know the total size, even without tools on the webserver.

Remember the virgin media space is basic. You get much more control, tolls, functions with a paid for hosting service.

kryogenik 19-06-2007 19:11

Re: Webspace
 
I've looked at your pictures, they're not that big?
You must have something else taking up a big chunk.
I've a website on Virgin space with 426 images on it - they take up 9mb - and some of them are reasonable sized photos.

---------- Post added at 20:11 ---------- Previous post was at 20:04 ----------

I lie - some of them are ridiculously big.!
You have 500k 3072px x 2304px images squashed into a web page.
Resize man - no need.

Barewolf 19-06-2007 19:13

Re: Webspace
 
No not all of them are that big, theres a few that are 450kb though, some at 800kb.

If i can reduce them in size to say 200kb i should be able to free up some space.

I checked my folders and i am using 42mb of my 55 by the looks of it, i did take off some music which freed up about 9mb.

Tightscot 19-06-2007 19:16

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i started looking but got bored. (no offence barewolf):)

tbh you're best of using a cheap host, loads out there for peanuts...

kryogenik 19-06-2007 19:20

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If you're struggling for space, why don't you create a Photobucket account and put your images on there and simply hotlink to them?

---------- Post added at 20:20 ---------- Previous post was at 20:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tightscot (Post 34331700)
i started looking but got bored. (no offence barewolf):)

tbh you're best of using a cheap host, loads out there for peanuts...

Haha!!! Sorry!
Off topic, but your avatar is hilarious!

rockabillybass 19-06-2007 19:26

Re: Webspace
 
Why is the girlfriend page password protected?

Not that I looked of course!! :o::o::)

Barewolf 19-06-2007 19:38

Re: Webspace
 
Well i resized some images that were quite big. from 600kb and 800kb to about 50kb.

The image quality isnt great but i am using infraview, so i just selected quality at 25 and set to resize to 25% of original and also to do it at 300 DPI.

Im not sure if thats the best setting to use or not? perhaps someone knows the correct settings?

kryogenik 19-06-2007 19:47

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The pics of your gaff?
Image quality is dreadful because you've resized them, but not resized what your webpage is coded to display them at!

Look at this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlwhittaker/House.html

Say, the bottom picture for convenience.

Now look at this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlwhi...20-%200020.jpg

You're stretching the image beyond it's parameters.
Of course it's going to look bad.

Resize the image (to I dunno, don't use Irfan - 30-35% say) and then code the page properly to show the proper size. Or resize the image in the table - I presume those are tables on the page you're using.

mondeo 19-06-2007 19:58

Re: Webspace
 
Just a thought. Why on earth don't you log in to selfcare, and view the chart with your site usage on? That tells you what you have used and how much you have left :erm:
http://selfcare.virginmedia.com

---------- Post added at 20:58 ---------- Previous post was at 20:48 ----------

PS: 3.5MB wma files for background sounds don't help. Plus VM can wipe your site off the face of the earth for having them on their, as it's a breach of copyrights :Yikes:

kryogenik 19-06-2007 20:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mondeo (Post 34331721)
Just a thought. Why on earth don't you log in to selfcare, and view the chart with your site usage on? That tells you what you have used and how much you have left :erm:
http://selfcare.virginmedia.com

Err, do what now?
That redirects me to a pagesaying PCguard Total upgrade

AntiSilence 19-06-2007 20:04

Re: Webspace
 
Yep, same here.

kryogenik 19-06-2007 20:15

Re: Webspace
 
Sorry Barewolf - was trying to help you out, but you're incredibly slow with your replies chief. I'm off to watch some TV.
Hope you get it sorted.

jingleman 19-06-2007 20:20

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barewolf (Post 34331670)
im annoyed because i dont know how much space i have left, it doesnt say anywhere.

The FTP logs should show the quota. Unfortunately, when using NTL it shows "226 Quotas off" It's been like this for over 4 years, so don't exepect any change until we get Virginmedia webspace. I know it will be the same servers just renamed, but you can always be hopeful ;)


Why don't you just right-click your folders in your webspace, it shows the number of files, and more importantly the size of each folder. E.g if you have a folder called audio that may say 10MB, images 15 MB etc.


A pen and calculator are also useful :D

mondeo 19-06-2007 20:33

Re: Webspace
 
Sorry, must be because I'm ex TW. I get forwarded to selfcare login, where I can then view site stats, usage and logs.

Anyway, you are much better going with a site host such as ukhost4u and getting 2 gig for £3.99 pcm

Barewolf 19-06-2007 23:08

Re: Webspace
 
Its ok what i have done is go through every folder on the PC with all the pics in it. and checked the total in MB per folder and added them up.

I should have roughly 9-10mb left on Virgin so if I use my embed then i can take the photo's from Flickr instead, I never thought of doing that but ive tried it out and it works fine so I will do that in future.

Cheers for that.

popper 20-06-2007 01:38

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barewolf (Post 34331670)
im annoyed because i dont know how much space i have left, it doesnt say anywhere.

I thought 55mb would have been enough but now if i half the content i have on my site it will take weeks, compressing all the images and re adding them to my webpages.

It should say you have 5mb of storage left and then you know not to upload too much data.

no it wont take weeks, a few minutes for 55megaBytes.

it doesnt, so just get yourself a good FTP client ,windows/total comander is a good commercial file manager with FTP included, ro any of the free ones around.

another option , just go and check the size of your local backup of the personal VM website, you DO have a local backup dont you?.... and keep a check that way....

OR, you can even run your own web server on your machine and redirect all or some of the content off the VM side web server to your local machine storage if you can be bothered to read up on it.

or just go get some real payed for webspace that actually allows a CGI bin,as vm dont even do that,Now That Is something VM should do and allow.

---------- Post added at 02:38 ---------- Previous post was at 02:35 ----------

opps ,sorry for re-stating whats already been said ....

Richy99 20-06-2007 10:08

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34331883)
or just go get some real payed for webspace that actually allows a CGI bin,as vm dont even do that,Now That Is something VM should do and allow.

and poorly made cgi scripts can be used to exploit servers and bring them down, then how many people would complain because some joe thought he would try a cgi script that was insecure and brough the entire server down?

kryogenik 20-06-2007 10:13

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richy99 (Post 34332008)
and poorly made cgi scripts can be used to exploit servers and bring them down, then how many people would complain because some joe thought he would try a cgi script that was insecure and brough the entire server down?

..And I don't imagine like most webhosts, VM chron server backups every night!

popper 20-06-2007 15:25

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richy99 (Post 34332008)
and poorly made cgi scripts can be used to exploit servers and bring them down, then how many people would complain because some joe thought he would try a cgi script that was insecure and brough the entire server down?

while its true , a bad cgi can bring your average server down , we are talking virtual servers here, in that case so what, you install a bad cgi, it crashes your personal virtual server, not a problem for any other person...

Richy99 21-06-2007 09:52

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34332354)
while its true , a bad cgi can bring your average server down , we are talking virtual servers here, in that case so what, you install a bad cgi, it crashes your personal virtual server, not a problem for any other person...

the cgi can affect all sites on the server because it is a virtual server, all the sites are on the same machine using the same variables and configuration, thats why when people want custom dll files etc on their site or an updated version of PHP for example, it has to be tested because it affects all the other sites on the server, a poorly designed cgi script using 90% system resources would slow the entire server down which would affect all sites

popper 21-06-2007 12:47

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perhaps im missing your point but it seems if we are talking commercial Industrial Grade ISP web servers then they should have good sandboxing capabilitys and hence no cgi can ever take down the master machine that these virtual web servers are running inside.

for instance:
http://www.zeus.com/products/zws/dynamic.html
"
http://www.zeus.com/assets/default/S...ic/img/cgi.png
Secure CGI sandbox

Carefully engineered to minimize fork() overhead, ZWS provides the fastest, more scalable platform for CGI execution. Easy to configure CGI concurrency limits, scalable error logging, and secure sandboxing prevent errant or untrustworthy programs monopolizing CPU resource or attempting security breaches."

hell, if they initalised the personal sandboxed cgi bin, you could run a simple (yet powerful) self contained rebol script 'web server' inside that, and totally ignore their external installed options, and never worry about bringing down any external app.

http://rebolweek.blogspot.com/
"Cheyenne

Dockimbel's Apache class webserver in 100Kb of REBOL code is now in beta, and being thrashed by beta testers in an attempt to weed out all the bugs.

Cheyenne offers fast-cgi REBOL scripting, and is resistant to most all the classical web attacks, with 180 requests/second on the RSP test page on an AMD 3500+ processor.

Maxim has now started work on a Remark module. Look for a download url in the near future as the 1.0 release approaches. In the meantime, the RSP documentation is available."

http://www.rebol.com/news/cheyenne.html
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...eb+server&meta=

and OC there is now work being done on real virtual PC servers that take the whole generic OS as a read only snap shot, and you mount a copy of that that as read/write and add your own binarys as you see fit , including web servers and all your personal wants if you so wish.and its all sandbox protected.

again, the whole thing can never effect the real IG ISP server hardware to such a degree that its noticed by other users on that hardware (unless they over subscribe that kit OC).

handyman 21-06-2007 13:33

Re: Webspace
 
I would not call it a resume, If you show that to a prospective employer you will not get the job.

popper 21-06-2007 14:37

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34333159)
I would not call it a resume, If you show that to a prospective employer you will not get the job.

hmm, i think i see the point your trying to make, are you saying REBOL wont get you a job as its not powerful ?.

you know this for a fact as you have tryed it in a commercial setting and know its not up to the job?.

perhaps if you told this 'prospective employer' that REBOL is infact written by Carl Sassenrath, (the guy that gave you the multitasking Amiga OS way back in 1985, so he knows a few things about small and innovative coding for the masses), not some unknown linux backroom coder in his spare time ( and there are some really innovative coders there, several came from the amiga platform days actually),and actually showed the boss what it can do, then perhaps he/she might actually listen and learn.

remember the P2p Morpheus app ?,back in 2001 when it was going to upgrade and bring out version 2x.

well REBOL was going to be that app until Morpheus got into serious finantial trouble and court action etc, is that a high enough commercial grade app for you to look again and ignore preconceptions perhaps...?

http://www.rebol.com/news1a31.html
"
REBOL and Morpheus Join Forces

To create the largest programmable content network.
California, USA - October 31, 2001 - REBOL Technologies and StreamCast Networks (formerly MusicCity.com) today announced a partnership to create the world's largest peer-to-peer X Internet content network.

StreamCast, makers of Morpheus and next generation peer-to-peer content distribution networks, will base Morpheus 2.0 on REBOL's X Internet operating system (IOS) technology to provide interactive programmable content to more than 30 million users by the end of the year.

"This partnership catapults the Internet into a new era," says Carl Sassenrath, Founder and CTO of REBOL Technologies.

"It combines the ubiquity of StreamCast's advanced peer-to-peer distribution system with the power and operating system independence of REBOL's X Internet applications."
"

apart from that..., we are talking powerful end user sandboxed apps and cgi ,that dont bring the main hardware down as its running from inside the IG ISP webserver cgi bin; to take from one of those US terms, 'empower the end users' options at no risk to the companys, as it were.

gazzae 21-06-2007 15:03

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34333219)
hmm, i think i see the point your trying to make, are you saying REBOL wont get you a job as its not powerful ?.

you know this for a fact as you have tryed it in a commercial setting and know its not up to the job?.

perhaps if you told this 'prospective employer' that REBOL is infact written by Carl Sassenrath, (the guy that gave you the multitasking Amiga OS way back in 1985, so he knows a few things about small and innovative coding for the masses), not some unknown linux backroom coder in his spare time ( and there are some really innovative coders there, several came from the amiga platform days actually),and actually showed the boss what it can do, then perhaps he/she might actually listen and learn.

I think Handyman is talking about Barewolfs website which has a page called his resume.

popper 21-06-2007 15:07

Re: Webspace
 
ohh..., its a bit hard to know that, as there wasnt a quote to base it off ;)

still, theres some more info in my post to at least have the adventurous people take a look and perhaps like what they see, not the be all and end all, but more than good enough for end users and commercial users alike perhaps.

its a shame its mainly used in the back office side apps and cgi rather than the GUI end user side, but perhaps with R3 alpha out now, and soon a beta for everyone, it might get another look.

handyman 21-06-2007 21:05

Re: Webspace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34333244)
ohh..., its a bit hard to know that, as there wasnt a quote to base it off ;)

Oopsy shuld have quoted, Yes I was commenting on Barewolfs site and the fact it is titled as a resume when clearly it is not some thing that you would want to show a prospective employer.

Rebol I know zero about other than its on my list to look into after Ruby but then there are several other acronyms I must learn about before I get there.

CSS, Mysql, xhtml, php.......... Why did I even start :cry:

Barewolf 23-06-2007 15:06

Re: Webspace
 
It started off as a Resume because someone from the OU said I should call it a resume. But the site is altering all the time now so I will if i can blend a Jpeg into my background rather than using a basic header then i can alter it more and just call it Barewolf's Website.


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