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DocDutch

14-06-2007 22:18

are they using Vista there???

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/0...eref=rss_space

I soo hope not :O

greencreeper

14-06-2007 22:21

Re: are they using Vista there???

Nah - it's Russia. It'll be Windows NT.

DocDutch

14-06-2007 22:22

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thats more reliable GC ;)

might be as its russian then be a hacked copy of Win 98SE or worse ME :O

Stuart

14-06-2007 22:44

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Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34328567)

Nah - it's Russia. It'll be Windows NT.

Seeing as how the Shuttle (a couple of years back at least) was still using 286s, I'd be surprised if they are running anything newer than Windows 3.1

Xaccers

14-06-2007 23:20

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I thought they'd upgraded the shuttles to 4 486's each?

Stuart

14-06-2007 23:21

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Probably, it was a couple of years back I read that.

Xaccers

14-06-2007 23:23

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I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

LSainsbury

15-06-2007 07:24

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Sorry to disappoint - I believe they run Linux as the OS on the ISS.

And these are (were) the Shuttle's computers...

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34328627)

I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

Yeah - hope they are not women computers! :D

greencreeper

15-06-2007 18:23

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Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34328572)

thats more reliable GC ;)

Yeah. Just need to reboot each day, before it runs out of virtual memory and falls over...

Shaun

15-06-2007 18:43

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34328627)

I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

Appart from when teo break and then they flip a virtual coin!!!:erm:

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In the rare case of two out of four computers simultaneously failing (a two-two split), one group is picked at random.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle

And according to Wikipedia they run HAL :confused:

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The software for the Shuttle computers is written in a high-level language called HAL/S, somewhat similar to PL/I. It is specifically designed for a real time embedded system environment.

The IBM AP-101 computers originally had about 424 kilobytes of magnetic core memory each. The CPU could process about 400,000 instructions per second. They have no hard disk drive and load software from magnetic tape cartridges.

In 1990 the original computers were replaced with an upgraded model AP-101S, which has about 2.5 times the memory capacity (about 1 megabyte) and three times the processor speed (about 1.2 million instructions per second). The memory was changed from magnetic core to semiconductor with battery backup.

greencreeper

15-06-2007 18:49

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Oxygen? I'm afraid I can't do that...

BBKing

15-06-2007 20:51

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I'm not sure what's more worrying - a space station computer that falls over all the time so you have plenty of experience at fixing it, or one that never fails except at that one crucial moment...

vbnmu

19-06-2007 04:03

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Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34328567)

Nah - it's Russia. It'll be Windows NT.

Putin was very angry that us, the West, don't take Russia seriously. And his speech was addressed to Bush Jr.
Beware Cable Forum...

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Talking of computer that fails...on BBC1 last night there was this programme about fishing boats out at sea. One of the ships had a problem with it's PC and were on their way back to shore.
The boat engineer apparently played with a few cables and the whole thing was sorted!

Anonymouse

19-06-2007 06:38

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34328627)

I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

Similar to the 'I tell you three times' backup strategy Heinlein wrote about as far back as Space Family Stone (1952). The ballistics computer of the Rolling Stone had three lobes (nodes, we'd call 'em now), each of which was capable of solving the entire problem of navigating, say, from Luna to Mars. If one produced answers radically different from the other two, or failed, the two properly functioning lobes would outvote it and cut it off.

However, I imagine they're using heuristic (or, if you like, best guess) techniques now which weren't even dreamed of back then; that's how they decide which answer to go with. 2001's HAL, of course, had entirely heuristic programming, hence the acronym: Heuristic ALgorithmic.

It's still strange to think that the entire computing power of Apollo's Mission Control could now be outdone by a fairly cheap laptop...

greencreeper

19-06-2007 08:52

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Bit like Minority Report then, I guess :erm:

And no one got my subtle Hal joke. Just too sharp for you all :D

Nanook

22-06-2007 18:19

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STS-117 should be landing today. Go here to watch.:)

LSainsbury

22-06-2007 21:21

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STA is currently doing test approaches...

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Deorbit burn...she's on the way to Edwards airforce base

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She's landed....

Not sure this'll work but....

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/for...chmentid=25090

homealone

22-06-2007 21:40

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Originally Posted by lsainsbury (Post 34334011)

phew - looks in pretty good nick, too - nice piccy :tu:

LSainsbury

26-06-2007 19:09

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Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34334160)

...nice piccy :tu:

Thanks to the guys at NASASpaceFlight.com :tu:

Lord Nikon

26-06-2007 22:43

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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 34331181)

Ahh yes, the Gay Deceiver... I remember the book well... Especially when they ended up in E.E. 'Doc' Smith's Lensman Universe...

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However, I imagine they're using heuristic (or, if you like, best guess) techniques now which weren't even dreamed of back then; that's how they decide which answer to go with. 2001's HAL, of course, had entirely heuristic programming, hence the acronym: Heuristic ALgorithmic.

I always thought HAL was an abbreviation of Heuristic Algorithmic Logic?

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It's still strange to think that the entire computing power of Apollo's Mission Control could now be outdone by a fairly cheap laptop...

The apollo computers were less powerful than a commodore 64 If I remember correctly.

Hom3r

26-06-2007 22:53

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The Apollo computer were basically calculators.

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