Democrats ignore Bush over Stem Cell Research
 

Democratics ignore Bush over Stem Cell Research

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Obviously there is a high chance Bush will veto it, but he will do so with the Lowest approval ratings hes had and this is bound to be even more damaging to him. Even worse if they manage to override the veto and make him one dead(er) duck. Hopefully he will chicken out and pass the bill since the Democratics will likely just send it back and him during the election year when it will become even more damaging for the republicans (majority of americans support stem cell research).

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Here's the link, btw ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6732379.stm


Good news, but prob. won't get anywhere.

He's vetoed a stem cell bill before, he's said he'll veto this one.

Unlikely for Congress to overrule it if he does veto it... would require a 2/3 majority in both the House & the Senate.

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It's a great shame the Senate can't get a 2/3 majority against Bush yet.

In other news, the immigration bill got thrown out, too. Bush's entire legacy will be a bankrupt country and the Iraq War. Worst President ever?

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Quite possibly.

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what about tricky dicky

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The good news is all the leading candidates for their respective partys nominations are supporters of the stem cell research so as long as they maintain a democratic house after the next election then we will see a lot lot more money in stem cell research :)

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Paragon of virtue, Dicky. He started to get the US *out* of Vietnam, in the end. Mind you, Dubya got out of Vietnam waaaaay before that, of course.

The whole lying-to-stay-in-office bit took the shine off him a bit. He also, of course, provided an excellent training ground in lies and manipulation for guys like Donald Rumsfeld.

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As expected, Bush has vetoed it...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6224134.stm

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Well, He's an Idiot. I guess Medical Research is less important that moral values? When you have a degenerative illness. I guess you can take confort in the moral values of your nation. All that caring about human life, in fact they care so much, they value it over a humans life.

What a waste of space, Still a year and a few months until the next election. Al Gore please. (although all the main candidates support stem cell research, its just Mr Religious Right who doesnt)

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Tying this in with the 'Go To Work On An Egg' minor uproar, in the US it's offended Fox (and CBS) that a company wishes to advertise its condoms by linking condom use with sex. That's like advocating seat belt wearing without showing a moving car.

This is the same Fox that [fill in list of crimes, starting with the owner putting naked teenagers on Page Three...]...

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2007/0...e-for-sex.html

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QFT :D

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What's hilarious are the adverts for erectile dysfunction medication recently on the FNC website.

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Well we have our own cretins here in the UK

Thankfully he is not in any position to actually veto these vaccinations.:rolleyes:

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Of course, underage teenagers don't already have sex (even in countries where religion is prevalent). :rolleyes:
So, perhaps it would be good to actually educate kids on sex rather than tell them not to have it? Let's face it, often, the best way to persuade a kid to do something is tell them not to.

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Oh dear atheist god. Yet another idiot to add my idiot list, which is getting pretty big already.

What is this? Is this the same thing as the condoms in schools stuff they have in America? Do they really think that if you do not provide methods of protection then they wont have sex? Or do they just hate anything that could be seen as approving underage sex (even though it is not) and they place this moral highground above safety?

Like some kid at school is thinking "Well, I was considering not having sex until I was married! But now I am protected against HPV then what the hell!"

People with have underage sex. Either protection and education is provided and then at least its safe or it isnt and then its not safe. Thats all that happens, and thats all it is. You can either make it safe and protect them or you can say "Well it shouldnt happen!" and risk their lifes with the warped belief that its moral.

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Or perhaps he just hates the fact that 5% of 12 year olds are sexually active? Do you know if he even has any other ideas regarding this or are you stereotyping him because of his beliefs? He might have some perfectly valid and constructive ideas

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I think everyone hates the fact, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt start the protection early. In fact it means we should, its recommended its taken before someone reachs puberty so is there a better time to do it?

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The idea of blanket vaccination is that you help to stop the spread of the disease full stop.In this case it's better to vaccinate BEFORE sexual activity takes place otherwise one negates the whole point of the exercise.Waiting until they are are old enough(or rather when this chap considers they are old enough) will not cover those who have decided to ignore every Christian and social tenet and are already sexually active.It won't catch every child of course but the numbers will be reduced at around 12 years of age.

Plus the stupid man seems to have forgotten that other at risk group..those who have been raped or sexually abused at a young age.:(

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Plus the types of HPV covered are not the ones that show symptoms. Therefor even if you onyl have one sexual partner who is your husband, you still risk catching it and developing cancer. This works best before puberty so even for a religious person this makes sense

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He's been near the top of mine for years, since the Jerry Springer lunacy. Bear in mind that 'Christian Voice' means 'Stephen Green' and we'll all get along fine. I've long wondered if I can set up a think tank (as he's described it) on such a flimsy basis and have concluded 'yes'. This explains why I distrust any and all think tanks.

I can spot the obvious flaw in that. Better a pile of infected* children rather than acknowledge rather basic biological and sociological facts.

http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/?p=502 - check comment 7

* Or, of course, pregnant. Let's not forget the Vatican in this, although at least they accept evolution these days.

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I was rather amused by comment 9 myself...:D

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To be honest there's not much to add to the original topic..until the democrats find a solution to the veto.I suspect we will have to wait until there is a Democrat president or a Republican one who feels able to ignore the bible belt,whichever comes first.Until then the subject is stone cold dead and the research will carry on in other countries under license..and any money to be made will be made elsewhere.With any luck that will be here.