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lezwez 13-05-2007 21:31

Isp Recomendation
 
i'm looking for an isp which is unlimted.

im currently with cable and will leave soon due to the shapping stuff and the 4 pm stuff.

im looking for anybody who can offer true unlimited and does not shappe or throttle my bandwidth.

is there anything out there.

I do not care how fast it is just as long as it's not 56k

Has anybody used BE internet before?

zing_deleted 13-05-2007 21:32

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good luck

virginmedia 13-05-2007 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34303460)
good luck

Your going to need it!

bw41101 13-05-2007 22:00

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Leaving cable for another service? Hang on a minute........! I'll just hold door open for you.

Si thee!

lezwez 13-05-2007 22:06

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Thanks a bundle

zing_deleted 13-05-2007 22:09

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what you need to do mate is ask your neighbours. See if there connections are any good and see who they are with this at least will give you an idea if fast speeds are viable on your line (of course this is never a garrentee) then comes the hard part finding an unlimited isp. I dont think anyone has no fair usage policy now and as for caps and traffic shaping well there are cap free isps but I bet most will shape. You got a hard hunt on your hands to find the holy grail

LSainsbury 14-05-2007 10:27

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There is no such thing as "unlimited".

ISP's limit your bandwidth speeds / download limits in order to give a decent level of service to all subscribers.

If you do find an "unlimited" provider they are either a) lying or b) lying.

Do your research before picking a provider - and read the small print of the contract.

dcclanuk 14-05-2007 17:27

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www.bethere.co.uk... also chk out ZEN INTERNET

Paul K 14-05-2007 17:38

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Originally Posted by dcclanuk (Post 34304119)
www.bethere.co.uk... also chk out ZEN INTERNET

Quote:

Is the service truly unlimited?
In principal there are no download or upload limits on any of our broadband products, but they are subject to our “Fair and acceptable usage policy”. All fair and acceptable usage is included in our Be unlimited and Be pro and with Be lite the first 4 gigs of usage is included and then you pay for any additional usage over an above that. But even with Be lite, we do not stop your internet activity when you exceed the included usage and we won’t force you to upgrade either.
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So what can Be’s services not be used for?
Making excessive use of, or placing unusual burdens on, the network,
A very open ended AUP there, they don't set limits but if you make excessive use of the network you will be punished........ hmmmm

papa smurf 14-05-2007 19:55

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see you in 3 months...what sauce do you like with your humble pie:rofl:

NoKnowledge 14-05-2007 20:15

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Become your own ISP.......actually does anyone know how much it costs to start one up. Paying BT wholesale for the use of their lines will be quite alot, I presume.

pedantic 14-05-2007 20:59

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Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34304243)
Become your own ISP.......actually does anyone know how much it costs to start one up. Paying BT wholesale for the use of their lines will be quite alot, I presume.

There is a current price list of central capacity here. Bear in mind, there are many other things to take into account, besides the price for capacity from BT, there is plenty of hardware to purchase.

lezwez 14-05-2007 22:25

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Thanks for the help whomever helped me some good stuff here i will take a look at zen i could not find breth internet at first when i mentioned it i forgot the name now i know it was hurting not to know.

for the rest of you who did not help let me clear up a few things that people thought they would take the **** and make fun.

i never had adsl so don't jugde people and make them look stupid second if you had my cable connection you would cry also why you say look at my first post of confusion i have a high power rate WHICH EVERYBODY HERE SAYS IS NOT GOOD BUT I GET 1.2 MBps DOWNLOAD With lots of lag online gameing when i drop the power rate with the clips put on 100KBps I GET BUT NO LAG so to get the full potensioal out of my 10 MEG i have to swap cable bit EXTENTION CLIP THINGS everytime i want to game or others want to down.

And you call that a service WHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVEING IN all i want is what i pay for simple not hard to work out.

i have spoken to virgin a number of times about this had twice a tech come out and swap and cheak and replace the whole wire outside.

i had no problems untill virgin taken over 500 /600 gb per month and no complains thats what i call a top notch service and no problems eaither everything was perfect with telewest now just to add the shapping crap ontop is just a bonus.

Thanks for everyone who helped out if i find a nice adsl service i will stick and leave cable soon as i do.

NoKnowledge 14-05-2007 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34304282)
There is a current price list of central capacity here. Bear in mind, there are many other things to take into account, besides the price for capacity from BT, there is plenty of hardware to purchase.

:( rrrr....they don't show uploads

pedantic 14-05-2007 23:14

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Originally Posted by lezwez (Post 34304382)
Thanks for the help whomever helped me some good stuff here i will take a look at zen

Zen do a business package, which is supposed to be unlimited, it's expensive though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34304387)
:( rrrr....they don't show uploads

:confused:

NoKnowledge 15-05-2007 02:08

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Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34304413)
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34304387)
:( rrrr....they don't show uploads

:confused:

How would one go about figuring out upload speed

Paul K 15-05-2007 06:24

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Some speed tests check the speed in both directions.
http://www.wugnet.com/myspeed/speedtest.asp
http://pcpitstop.com/internet/BandwidthUp.asp

NoKnowledge 15-05-2007 10:58

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34304509)

Thanks but I was referring to the
Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34304282)
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34304243)
Become your own ISP.......actually does anyone know how much it costs to start one up. Paying BT wholesale for the use of their lines will be quite alot, I presume.

There is a current price list of central capacity here. Bear in mind, there are many other things to take into account, besides the price for capacity from BT, there is plenty of hardware to purchase.

It wasn't a serious discussion so it doesn't really matter ;)

tweetypie/8 25-05-2007 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lezwez (Post 34303459)
i'm looking for an isp which is unlimted.

im currently with cable and will leave soon due to the shapping stuff and the 4 pm stuff.

im looking for anybody who can offer true unlimited and does not shappe or throttle my bandwidth.

is there anything out there.

I do not care how fast it is just as long as it's not 56k

Has anybody used BE internet before?

are you feeling lucky ? :Yikes: you will need to :disturbd:

talklifeforums 27-05-2007 17:39

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bethere says its unlimited but it still got fair usage policy, i am with bulldog and honestly speaking if its working fine than its very good but if it gives you problems than you are nowhere and there customer service is one of the worst ever.you can try aol which is a bit expensive but i have used it in the past and did use heavily but its ur choice i got these suggestions.

lezwez 28-05-2007 22:49

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im sticking with virgin now as of last week when my problems were fixed

tweetypie/8 31-05-2007 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by virginmedia (Post 34303476)
Your going to need it!

loads of it :disturbd:

Incomplete 03-06-2007 20:38

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What a fabulous, friendly, helpful, constructive thread this is.

The guy posts asking for advice on choosing a new ISP and basically gets given grief for daring to consider leaving Virgin and people picking holes in the very standard AUP that the ISP he is considering using have.

Huge thumbs up to the people who did post constructively though.

All ISPs without exception have a FUP, Be have never throttled anyone and the only form of shaping they use is to prioritise business traffic over consumer traffic. They are no more limited than VM were pre-STM. Same goes for Sky Max.

Honestly anyone would think that VM are the only ISP that can offer anything like a service to anyone and the rest of us without it are all getting throttled after downloading 1MB a week and spend most of our time getting 56k like speeds.

Bit slow as there are 2 other PCs running both gaming but:

Download Speed: 15040 kbps (1880 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2002 kbps (250.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...3260&v=1497079

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.226.232] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.226.232: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=119
Reply from 212.58.226.232: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=119
Reply from 212.58.226.232: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=119
Reply from 212.58.226.232: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=119

Ping statistics for 212.58.226.232:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 5ms, Average = 5ms

Hardly appauling results. VM aren't the only ISP that can actually supply internet services to a reasonable standard you know :(


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