Bill Gates to Blame for Virginia Tech Killings
 

...according to Jack Thompson anyway.

source: http://gaming.monstersandcritics.com..._Tech_slayings

OMG!!!
:eeek:

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It's a game...

I hate how it will always be demonised because the tiniest minority going take it literally and may supposedly use it as a simulator.
Editors/people like this should keep their traps closed IMO.

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I think people should very rarely keep their traps shut. Unless you have difficulty constructing a decent argument against what they have to say, in which case making them shut up might make you feel better.

To address the point however ...

a logical extension of the argument might be to hold the manufacturers of flight simulators liable for 9/11. We have to be careful how far we extend liability in these sorts of cases. I think it is increasingly hard to ignore the parallels between violent crimes of like these and scenes from games or films that seem to have inspired them. The question is, do the games and films pose a risk to a significant number of people?

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Another question is why Jack Thompson thought MS* was to blame even before the gunman had been identified... especially as the subsequent search of the gunman's dorm room failed to turn up any video games.

*Did MS distribute CS for XBox? I've only ever known CS as a Valve game, but I don't own an XBox.

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They published it for the XBox according to Wiki

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It doesn't take a genius to work out the major factor of this appalling incident, the American Gun Laws.

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Blame, blame, blame....

Why can't we focus more on what would make a person value human life so little that they would carry out such acts. Whenever something like this happens, people are always looking for an ease scapegoat, gun control laws, video games, movies.
All important considerations but what about this persons social life, family, friends, why couldn't he turn to them if he was so unhappy?

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i saw a report on tv that stated in virginia you can buy a rifle or shot gun at 12 years old without a permit , now can you imagine twelve year olds running around with guns,every time they loose at marbles they could blow someone away , any way ..greatest country in the world[or so they think]

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Jack Thompson... :rolleyes:

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I own all the Grand theft autos.

After a stress filled day and idiots on the road, I play the latest San Andreas and run down peds and crash into cars.

But I do even thin about doing this for real.

IMVHO games don't make people do stupid things, Stupid people do stupid things

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Considering that even the likes of controversial conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh has already dismissed this argument, I doubt this will escalate.

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Wiki for Jack Thompson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)

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so video games make you better at something?????

so I am going to be a pro at tennis cause I am a pro at wii tennis????



ik

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No, you'll be crippled with RSI by this time next year though... ;)

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is that with the tennis????? ;)

so I should blame nintendo for that? hehe

I just find this a bit stupid blaming gates for someone elses mental problems

ik

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Well the killer blamed the entire universe for his killings so why should anyone one else not also do the same.Why take any responsibility for anything when you can accuse others?:rolleyes:

Shall we all try to start playing the BLAME GAME. Come on it's so easy to play.You just blame ANYONE that you do or do not meet for the state of your life,bank balance,sex life,education,state of the country/world etc,etc.

The first rule of this game BTW is that you NEVER,EVER lay blame at your own feet.You are always entirely innocent and blameless and are a victim of circumstance.

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:clap: :clap:

Guns don't kill people - people kill people.
It's that simple - and the argument is (violent console game) age old.
I know dozens of CS players, not a one of them has ever shot anyone.
But, should one of them became unstable, would they do so if they could get hold of a gun like you can in the US?
Lord only knows.

Thank goodness we don't have the same laws here.

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But people with guns can kill many more in a shorter time :(

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That just seemed so bizarre that I couldn't believe it - until I found this. :Yikes:

Something I've not seen referred to here is a statement I saw from the NRA (National Rifle Association) saying that if Virginia tech didn't impose the gun-free zone on the university it wouldn't have been as bad because another student would have shot him. This Darwin Award does lend some weight to their argument!

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My point exactly mate.
I'm glad you can't get a gun as easily on these shores.

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I have always been under the impression that CS was a game devised, developed and marketed by Valve (thee of half life fame LINKY ) Where Billy boy comes into it I dont know.

Just goes to show that many people especially those with a holier than thou attitude dont know what there talking about.

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Yes valve do make CS but I think MS puts it on Xbox.

I have played alot of the violent games but I have never thought about doing anything like this for real. I have been bullied in the past, I have hated people for some of the things they have done but I would not want to go kill them all.

If it wernt for the video games they would just blame the movie's. Its just silly. People choose to do what they do not a video game or a movie.

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Yup leave a gun on a table and it will not jump and start shooting however stick a lunatic on t'other end........

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I read if you redistribute all the guns in this country evenly you can give two to every man woman and child and have some spare.

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This lawyer is an idiot and is totally misguided in my opinion. He is laying blame in the wrong place. He blames video games for all the problems, yet fails to see that normal people can play violent games and not go around massacring college students.

You have to be messed up already to do such a thing, and I'm sure that if the shooter had been playing "Little Fluffy Bunnies in Cute Land" he would have done the exact same thing.

I play violent games. I like them. They let me do things I can't (nor want to) do in real life. But, I don't feel the need to go around and kill people because of it.

He needs to start looking at the problems in his society that are the cause of why people do this before blaming computer games.

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Whereas we in the UK with pretty rigid gun laws never see any shootings?

Sun Tzu in the book 'the art of war' circa 2000bc stated 'if you outlaw spears, only outlaws will carry spears'
Firearms are a genie you can't put back in the box, to outlaw them means criminals will carry them, and be happier knowing that the law abiding people they wish to threaten with them, aren't capable of fighting back on a level playing field.

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Yeah I agree with Nikon. If you ban guns only people who care about the law will destory them.

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Looking at some of the some of the students I teach I can only say I'm thankful we don't have a right to bear arms policy like the US.:erm:

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the most misquoted amendment.
The Second Amendment.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "
The point of this amendment not being an individuals right, but looking back to the good ol frontier times and the overthrowing of the readcoats, the fact that if a government bans the right to bear arms it them makes it easier for a government to move to dictatorship using the governments backed military power. The right to bear arms enables the people to rise up against that threat and use similar weaponary power.
I wonder why when the government has nuclear and other far more powerful weaponary the NRA has not pushed for the militia to be able to own similar.

I think I am gonna get me one of those decommisioned Jaguars off the UK government, some AMRAMs and SCUDs, maybe some Bunker Busters so that if the government turns against us we can fight back. :shocked:

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I'm gonna sue the children of J.R.R.Tolkien as I have the urge to buy a sword and stab people to death.
Sad sad bunnies.