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Simcut 16-04-2007 03:37

What router to buy? help please
 
Hi guys,

Which router do you recommend that I buy?

I currently am using a Linksys WRT54G V5 which is a shocker of a router. It can't handle many active connections at all without it hanging.....I found out this was the cause of all my troubles with torrents timing out all the time and my internet falling over !

Please can somebody recommend me a router, need it to support the following:-

P2P such as DC++
Utorrent and Azureus
Cable Modem (I am with Virgin Media with a 10mbit connection)
Good for gaming (I play Counterstrike Source)

I need to make sure I get a router that won't freeze when running torrents, I'm really sick and tired of all the hassle I've had with routers.

Hope someone can help me? I've been thinking about buying a Netgear Router....I've been put off of Linksys for life now, bought 2 Routers and they both suck. the WRT54G V5 and the BEFSR41

Thanks In Advance.

Simon

Paul K 16-04-2007 07:09

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Our Netgear runs without hitch here, it's strange that you have had issues with yours as so many people pimp the Linksys as THE router to use.

Graham M 16-04-2007 08:22

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Can your Linksys support that custom firmware that does the rounds?

Barewolf 16-04-2007 11:45

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Simcut i have the same problem as you, i have the same router as you. Its a pain in the **** in it?

I used to use DC++ alot but now i log into dc++ and join a channel i cant even get the search up, even if i have 20 channels open and search for something simple like UB40 Red red wine it wont show nothing, its pathetic.

I can manage ok with Torrents for some reason. I use torrent leech and bitcomet mostly.

I notice that Yahoo messenger disconnects after about 4 minutes and every 4 minutes after that, not tried it while not running MSN at the same time though.

I didnt buy this linksys though so i was in the dark as to whats the best one for the job.

Simcut 16-04-2007 12:36

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Aye, I've tried the DD-WRT Firmware but I have the same issues.

Btw, I can help you with DC++ setup, drop me a PM ;-)

:)

Nikesh 16-04-2007 16:32

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Try DD-WRT firmware! ;)

MovedGoalPosts 16-04-2007 16:52

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
The problem with the default Linksys router firmware is that it doesn't close down connections quickly. Torrents work by throwing out masses of connections in the hope that something will stick. This eventually gums up the router's memory, and eventually grind to a halt.

The answer is in use of third party firmware, but also in configuration of the firmware, and having sensible settings on your PC's software.

The DD-WRT firmware, v23 or later, can be downloaded from here:

You then need to change some settings:

* Enter the following values at 'Web-Admin -> Administration -> Management -> IP Filter Settings'
* Maximum Ports: 4096
* TCP Timeout (s): 300 (decrease if you have many TCP connections)
* UDP Timeout (s): 300 (decrease if you have many UDP connections)
* Save Settings and then Reboot Router

In your torrent clients try limiting the number of active torrents and also the number of connections. On 4 meg I've found something like 100 connections, 4 torrents and 20KB/s upload is about right. The upload doesn't want to be much more than 80% of your maximum capability.

Once I've made those adjustments, I've found my Linksys WRT54GS has been running with torrents nice and happily.

Nikesh 16-04-2007 17:14

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Thanks Rob, your post was very helpful. I have changed the settings on my router and in utorrent and I will have to see if it runs any better (even though I've never had any problems). :)

Barewolf 16-04-2007 20:32

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 34276749)
The problem with the default Linksys router firmware is that it doesn't close down connections quickly. Torrents work by throwing out masses of connections in the hope that something will stick. This eventually gums up the router's memory, and eventually grind to a halt.

Will this sort out DC++?

MovedGoalPosts 16-04-2007 20:38

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Never tried that software. Can't hurt to try it.

pxr5 18-04-2007 13:17

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
D-link DGL-4300. Handles loads of connections and never locks out - ever.

http://smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/25840/55/

http://smallnetbuilder.com/index.php...6843&Itemid=51

http://smallnetbuilder.com/index.php...4726&Itemid=96

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/compo...rt/Itemid,189/

moogles 18-04-2007 16:05

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
I did what rob said on my wrt54g and i've had no problems since. also linksys has a nice router config page with dd-wrt. i seen the dlink one and it doesnt look as nice. but thats just me i like nice setup pages.

Barewolf 18-04-2007 17:20

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 34276749)
The problem with the default Linksys router firmware is that it doesn't close down connections quickly. Torrents work by throwing out masses of connections in the hope that something will stick. This eventually gums up the router's memory, and eventually grind to a halt.

The answer is in use of third party firmware, but also in configuration of the firmware, and having sensible settings on your PC's software.

The DD-WRT firmware, v23 or later, can be downloaded from here:

You then need to change some settings:

* Enter the following values at 'Web-Admin -> Administration -> Management -> IP Filter Settings'
* Maximum Ports: 4096
* TCP Timeout (s): 300 (decrease if you have many TCP connections)
* UDP Timeout (s): 300 (decrease if you have many UDP connections)
* Save Settings and then Reboot Router

In your torrent clients try limiting the number of active torrents and also the number of connections. On 4 meg I've found something like 100 connections, 4 torrents and 20KB/s upload is about right. The upload doesn't want to be much more than 80% of your maximum capability.

Once I've made those adjustments, I've found my Linksys WRT54GS has been running with torrents nice and happily.

How do i get to the web admin part? lol sorry *Hides*

Nikesh 18-04-2007 17:27

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barewolf (Post 34278469)
How do i get to the web admin part? lol sorry *Hides*

http://192.168.1.1

Barewolf 18-04-2007 17:41

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Ah cheers Nik. So i download that firmware and install it. Its not going to screw up my router is it? Never done anything with this router since i got it, plug and play if you like.

---------- Post added at 17:41 ---------- Previous post was at 17:37 ----------

PS is it service pack 3 i need? i think i have SP3 on the system according to belarc advisor.

Nikesh 18-04-2007 17:56

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
It can screw up your router if you don't install the firmware properly. This website is really useful:

http://www.wrtrouters.com/

What model router do you have?

BTW Rob, thanks again for them DD-WRT settings they seemed to have speeded up my torrents! ;)

Barewolf 18-04-2007 18:56

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Linksys wrt54gs ver 6

Barewolf 24-04-2007 18:19

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Ive been to that download link and selected to download it but ive ended up on this page..

http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down....%2F01-05-2007/

Which one do you download? All of them?

:(

moogles 24-04-2007 18:24

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barewolf (Post 34284301)
Ive been to that download link and selected to download it but ive ended up on this page..

http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down....%2F01-05-2007/

Which one do you download? All of them?

:(

http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down....2_standard.zip

Cobbydaler 24-04-2007 18:43

Re: What router to buy? help please
 
It's not really recommended that you flash the version 6 wrt54gs...

See here...


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