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Tezcatlipoca 27-03-2007 00:03

Wii longevity
 
I'm really tempted by the Wii.


So far, my wallet has been saved by no one in town ever having it in stock (apart from in bundles with games I don't want).



I've played on a friend's Wii, & was very impressed with it, bar one thing...

... the apparent lack of anything good apart from Wii Sports.


I did try Zelda, too, but really wasn't impressed. Seems to just be a port of the GameCube one, but with awkward controls. Didn't grab me & draw me in straight away like Ocarina did way back on the N64.

And as Mario & Metroid still haven't got release dates AFAIK, while Red Steel & Far Cry etc. are a bit crap from what I've heard, what else is there to play that's actually worthwhile?


Just Virtual Console games?


Is it really worth getting a Wii just for Wii Sports & the VC games?

Or does the novelty wear off quite quickly?


Does the Wii have any longevity at the moment?

zing_deleted 27-03-2007 00:09

Re: Wii longevity
 
I dont like any of the other games bar wii sports but im happy with what I paid and would pay it again just for the console and Wii sports if I knew what I know now. I would not have bought any other games and doubt ill buy any other games unless something for 2 players as good as sports come out

Tezcatlipoca 27-03-2007 00:23

Re: Wii longevity
 
Cheers, Zingle :tu:

Saaf_laandon_mo 27-03-2007 08:59

Re: Wii longevity
 
I played with the Wii (inc sports) all weekend a little while back and to be honest the nopvelty quickly wore off. I enjoyed bowling and tennis but to be honest you can play both games sitting on the sofa with a quick flick of the wrists, and I just found it all a bit boring. I won't be getting one for myself.

c1rcle 27-03-2007 09:28

Re: Wii longevity
 
I'd much rather pay £179 for the WII than £425+ for a glorified dvd player that won't work properly with the TV I have at the moment.

Saaf_laandon_mo 27-03-2007 09:39

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c1rcle (Post 34261147)
I'd much rather pay £179 for the WII than £425+ for a glorified dvd player that won't work properly with the TV I have at the moment.

Nooooo, please lets not go down the PS3 vs all other consoles route.

zing_deleted 27-03-2007 09:48

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34261124)
I played with the Wii (inc sports) all weekend a little while back and to be honest the nopvelty quickly wore off. I enjoyed bowling and tennis but to be honest you can play both games sitting on the sofa with a quick flick of the wrists, and I just found it all a bit boring. I won't be getting one for myself.


bowling maybe but the tennis properly you got no chance mate there is a lot more to it. If you sit on the sofa playing then your not entering the spirit properly and you will not get the most out of it.
Im a dedicated pc gamer but Wii sports have taken a fair amount of my time off the pc but its socialble too and active and the kids love it

Saaf_laandon_mo 27-03-2007 09:53

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34261162)
bowling maybe but the tennis properly you got no chance mate there is a lot more to it. If you sit on the sofa playing then your not entering the spirit properly and you will not get the most out of it.
Im a dedicated pc gamer but Wii sports have taken a fair amount of my time off the pc but its socialble too and active and the kids love it

I know what you're saying about by sitting on the sofa Im not getting into the spirit of things, but by the end of the evening i was playing bowling, baseball, golf and tennis(ur right this does work better standing up) on the sofa as i was bored prancing around in the front room.

I have to agree the kids do love it, and Im seriously contemplating buying one for that reason alone. My daughter is 2 and a half and as soon as there's a few games that she can play on it (hopefully something fun and educational), I will buy one for her.

zing_deleted 27-03-2007 09:55

Re: Wii longevity
 
fair comment :) least it will keep them active instead of sat infront of a game has to be worth it for that alone also :)

Gareth 27-03-2007 09:55

Re: Wii longevity
 
Wii Sports is great, but I'd say that Rayman is worth buying too. Check out the reviews at IGN, it's got good feedback.

Personally, I love Zelda... although I see your point about it being a GC port, because that's exactly what they did to it - although they re-mapped the entire environment to make Link right-handed so that it'd be easier to play with the Wiimote.

Next on my list of games to get is Tiger Woods, as I love playing Wii Sports Golf, which will be followed by SSX Blur.

Saaf_laandon_mo 27-03-2007 10:21

Re: Wii longevity
 
I'd like to see how tiger woods golf plays on the Wii. Would be nice to be able to play with a proper golf club, maybe i could stick a controller to the head of a nine iron (assuming I have a wii by then)

punky 27-03-2007 10:46

Re: Wii longevity
 
Red Steel is total crap, and TBH put me off the Wii. I'll never say never, i'll think long and hard about it in future.

Wii sports is fun, but in the limited-ish time I played it (over a few days) my interest in it already started to wane, so that wouldn't last forever.

Logan 27-03-2007 11:08

Re: Wii longevity
 
I bought my Wii on launch day. Since then, I've owned:

- WiiSports
- WiiPlay
- Zelda Twilight Princess
- Red Steel
- Rayman
- Sonic

Of those 6 titles, I now only have the first three. The last three in the list I bought, and quickly took back or exchanged for 360 games.

The Wii is having a bit of a drought, and its been going on since release day really. New games that have come out are either rubbish, or more mini game madness.

At this present moment in time, there is nothing really enticing for the single player. The Wii is all about multiplayer gaming at the moment.

I bought an Xbox 360 in February and since then, my Wii hasn't really seen the light of day. Only time I really use my Wii is when I have friends over, for a bit of WiiSports, otherwise my 360 is getting a hammering.

Purchasing the PS3 in May so there will be even more distraction.

Some good games need to come out on the Wii real soon, because at the moment, its just not geting the usage it should be.

Gareth 27-03-2007 12:18

Re: Wii longevity
 
People over at OCUK have been talking about Godfather and saying it is great, so might think about getting that... although my son would be miffed as it's his console but he's too young to play it ;)

Logan 27-03-2007 12:31

Re: Wii longevity
 
From what I've seen, read and heard, Godfather for Wii is great IF you haven't played the game before. Because its essentially the same game but with Wii controls.

Gareth 27-03-2007 13:30

Re: Wii longevity
 
Which is good news for me, as I've not played it on anything else ;)

Think I heard similar stories for SSX Blur... it's good but die-hard SSX fans might not find it as good a game as those who don't already own every other game in the SSX series. Again, as I've not played SSX on another console, I'm looking forward to this one too.

paul nolan 27-03-2007 20:46

Re: Wii longevity
 
It's a great party machine. Mates round couple of beers and it's pure fun.

on your own it gets a bit dull.

hopefully Dewy's Adventure, Super Paper Mario, Mario Galaxy etc will help brak the monotony

Tezcatlipoca 27-03-2007 22:29

Re: Wii longevity
 
Cheers for the comments, guys :tu:


Hmm.


I'd say "I may wait a while 'till more games come out", however, I think I'd probably end up waiting 'till then anyway due to the current stock drought [Game, Gameplay, Gamestation, HMV, Amazon, Argos, etc. etc.....no Wiis in stock online (loads of PS3s in stock though). Not seen any in any high street shops either].


The VC does sound great. I think if the Wii didn't have that, & the only thing to really play was Wii Sports, I wouldn't even consider it, not for one collection of minigames. But with the VC too...sounds like retro heaven...

I just hope Mario etc. come out soon, & are worth the wait.


I don't want to get one & then find it sits gathering dust like my Gamecube did [bought that before I bought my first Xbox...played Mario Sunshine a fair bit, 'till I played Halo etc., played Mario Kart a little, never got round to playing Wind Waker, didn't like Metroid Prime, & then eventually dumped it, after a long period of no use, & after getting bored of dusting it each week].

Gareth 27-03-2007 22:36

Re: Wii longevity
 
Heatseeker looks to be good... another one to add to the list :)

Kellargh 28-03-2007 11:19

Re: Wii longevity
 
Super Mario Galaxy! Bring it on :D

Damien 28-03-2007 11:24

Re: Wii longevity
 
SSX Blur looks awesome, buying that friday

skyblueheroes 28-03-2007 18:00

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34261814)
Cheers for the comments, guys :tu:


Hmm.


I'd say "I may wait a while 'till more games come out", however, I think I'd probably end up waiting 'till then anyway due to the current stock drought [Game, Gameplay, Gamestation, HMV, Amazon, Argos, etc. etc.....no Wiis in stock online (loads of PS3s in stock though). Not seen any in any high street shops either].


The VC does sound great. I think if the Wii didn't have that, & the only thing to really play was Wii Sports, I wouldn't even consider it, not for one collection of minigames. But with the VC too...sounds like retro heaven...

I just hope Mario etc. come out soon, & are worth the wait.


I don't want to get one & then find it sits gathering dust like my Gamecube did [bought that before I bought my first Xbox...played Mario Sunshine a fair bit, 'till I played Halo etc., played Mario Kart a little, never got round to playing Wind Waker, didn't like Metroid Prime, & then eventually dumped it, after a long period of no use, & after getting bored of dusting it each week].

I agree. I have a Wii but only have Sports. Nothing else has tempted me. I think the games will ramp up slowly but I just hope its fast enough to still be able to compete with the 360 and PS3.

People will soon lose hope and bugger off to MS to Sony land :D

Tiger Woods is going to be my next purchase I think.

cuggle 29-03-2007 08:55

Re: Wii longevity
 
Our wii has been on almost constantly when visitors are here, wii sports is fun and kororinpa has had everyone fighting to have a go. Wii play is ok, Red steel, sonic and the magic rings, COD3, and zelda have less airings lol. All things considered it`s been a good purchase

Tezcatlipoca 29-03-2007 21:43

Re: Wii longevity
 
Decided I will definitely get one. Sports & VC will make do 'till there's more, like Mario etc.


No one has any stock though!


I keep checking www.wiipreorder.co.uk & www.wii-consoles.co.uk/default.asp#wii_consoles but always miss the ones which (briefly) appear in stock :(

awibble 29-03-2007 21:53

Re: Wii longevity
 
I know you've made your decision matt, but if i may stick my nose in..

The Wii for me is a different type of console, xmas day there was me (early 20s), my yonger brother(early 10's), My mum (40's) and my grandad (70's) All enjoying a good few games. Because the controls are so simple anyone can play. I mean take my grandad, hes scared of the Digibox yet give him a conroller and show him golf and he loved it... Hes considering buying one for himself!!! Now i dont know of any consoles that have every attracted such a wide audience, which is where the Wii is winning, you dont have to think what x or o does, lets face it, you hold it like a golf club, and swing it like a golf club.... What would be more simple?

Granted there will be more games, but i think the Wii is more of a social console.... really you must buy more controllers, as whenever you have people over (no matter their age) its a perfect thing to do.

Logan 30-03-2007 01:07

Re: Wii longevity
 
If anyone asked me 'which console should I buy' I would have to say 360 without batting an eyelid. Right now, the 360 is in its prime. I'm so glad I waited a year before geting one though. I picked mine up in February and already I've bought near enough a dozen games. There is so much quality games out now and coming over the next 12 months, its hard to see how the PS3 will climb the mountain and catch up.

I love my Wii, but right now, there is just nothing out for it. Its gathering dust in the shadow of the 360.

Gareth 30-03-2007 01:42

Re: Wii longevity
 
Different kettle of fish, though, mate.

At Xmas, we took our Wii over to my sister's place where we were all celebrating, eating, drinking, etc... She had a 360 that she'd just bought but nobody was interested in that - everyone wanted to play the Wii instead. It's a much more sociable console than the 360.

Admittedly, the 360 has vastly better graphics, a much better catalogue of games, XBox Live, etc... but when it comes down to it, these are only more important when you're playing alone. It's no fun for other people to sit and watch someone play Gears of War, but if you've got people over, then watching them do the boxing or play tennis in Wii Sports, or do cow tossing in Rayman, etc... is a much better experience, imo.

In an ideal world, the 360 (or PS3) and a Wii is a perfect combination as you cover both bases :)

Tezcatlipoca 30-03-2007 01:45

Re: Wii longevity
 
@ awibble -


If/when I manage to get one, I'm definitely gonna get another nunchuk & wiimote, maybe more. I also aim to try & get my fiancée to play games, lol. I've only ever managed to get her to play the 360 once, briefly, & that's just 'cos being a martial artist she was curious one time when I was playing DOA4 lol.


@ logan -


Already have a 360, & wouldn't be without it* :) , but want something more, & the Wii seems to offer that "something different" to your normal 360/PS3. I was disappointed by the Cube, but I've always liked Nintendo.



*[Well, apart from at the moment, while MS are "fixing" it :( ]

---------- Post added at 01:45 ---------- Previous post was at 01:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34263745)
In an ideal world, the 360 (or PS3) and a Wii is a perfect combination as you cover both bases :)


That's how I'm seeing it :)

Maroon 30-03-2007 06:32

Re: Wii longevity
 
This site is good and fair for wii reviews:
http://www.eurogamer.net/archive.php...=reversechrono

Excite truck is great fun.

And if you want another wiimote go for wii play - my 3 year old loves the 'find mii' game!

awibble 30-03-2007 08:08

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34263746)
@ awibble -


If/when I manage to get one, I'm definitely gonna get another nunchuk & wiimote, maybe more. I also aim to try & get my fiancée to play games, lol. I've only ever managed to get her to play the 360 once, briefly, & that's just 'cos being a martial artist she was curious one time when I was playing DOA4 lol.

Lol... The only thing mine with play is Wii Sports, but she does play it!

FYI.... you might not need the second nunchuk... Ive only got one and 4 controllers, and its only boxing that i miss it for.

Logan 30-03-2007 11:48

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34263745)
Different kettle of fish, though, mate.

At Xmas, we took our Wii over to my sister's place where we were all celebrating, eating, drinking, etc... She had a 360 that she'd just bought but nobody was interested in that - everyone wanted to play the Wii instead. It's a much more sociable console than the 360.

Admittedly, the 360 has vastly better graphics, a much better catalogue of games, XBox Live, etc... but when it comes down to it, these are only more important when you're playing alone. It's no fun for other people to sit and watch someone play Gears of War, but if you've got people over, then watching them do the boxing or play tennis in Wii Sports, or do cow tossing in Rayman, etc... is a much better experience, imo.

In an ideal world, the 360 (or PS3) and a Wii is a perfect combination as you cover both bases :)

Oh I don't disagree mate. Only time my Wii gets used lately is when I have mates over. But other then that, it just sits there gathering dust.

For single player experience, 360 definitely gets my vote.

For 'online' multi player experience, 360 still gets my vote.

But for 'offline' multi player experience, then its the Wii all the way!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34263746)
@ logan -

Already have a 360, & wouldn't be without it* :) , but want something more, & the Wii seems to offer that "something different" to your normal 360/PS3. I was disappointed by the Cube, but I've always liked Nintendo.

*[Well, apart from at the moment, while MS are "fixing" it :( ]

Good man ;) Get yourself a Wii soon as then, because Wii60 owners have all the fun! :D

Tezcatlipoca 30-03-2007 23:52

Re: Wii longevity
 
IN STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!


(well, briefly, earlier)


I've had www.wiipreorder.co.uk/Wii-Stock-Alerts.aspx & www.wii-consoles.co.uk/wii_console_realtime.asp both up throughout the day.


Just before 10pm, both suddenly updated with "IN STOCK NOW AT AMAZON!".


Shot over to Amazon (forgetting to go via Nectar.com for the points, oops), & quickly ordered one.

Standard Wii + Wii Sports pack, rather than some stupid unnecessary & expensive Game/Gamestation style bundle full of crap games I don't want.

First class postage, to my work address. With luck, it'll arrive Monday or Tuesday.


Now need to get hold of the Component cable, & another Wiimote.



:)

skyblueheroes 31-03-2007 00:25

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34264500)
IN STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!


(well, briefly, earlier)


I've had www.wiipreorder.co.uk/Wii-Stock-Alerts.aspx & www.wii-consoles.co.uk/wii_console_realtime.asp both up throughout the day.


Just before 10pm, both suddenly updated with "IN STOCK NOW AT AMAZON!".


Shot over to Amazon (forgetting to go via Nectar.com for the points, oops), & quickly ordered one.

Standard Wii + Wii Sports pack, rather than some stupid unnecessary & expensive Game/Gamestation style bundle full of crap games I don't want.

First class postage, to my work address. With luck, it'll arrive Monday or Tuesday.


Now need to get hold of the Component cable, & another Wiimote.



:)

Yay. Well done dude.

Tezcatlipoca 31-03-2007 01:01

Re: Wii longevity
 
Yep.


A Wii around the start of the week, while hopefully my 360 will be fixed & returned next week too (an MS auto email today claimed it had been shipped back...), so next week should be "Wii60" week :)

Logan 31-03-2007 11:40

Re: Wii longevity
 
Nice one dude ;)

Heatseeker hit the shelves yesterday too, so double whammy (if you like combat fighter games). Can't wait to give Heatseeker ago with the controls.

Get yourself a decent set of component cables though. Official if you can, otherwise I can reccomend the Blaze ones which I bought from Virigin Megastore. Come with a price tag though, £19.99. Steer clear of Mad Catz, heard some bad reviews of them ones.

Gareth 31-03-2007 15:46

Re: Wii longevity
 
Heh, did anyone else see that Lego Batman is coming to the Wii...?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/03/1.jpg

:cool:

Tezcatlipoca 09-04-2007 01:03

Re: Wii longevity
 
@ Logan -


Yeah, Heatseeker doesn't look too bad.

Couldn't find any official component cables in stock, so got 3rd party. Can't remember the brand, but wasn't Mad Catz. Seem pretty decent, so far. Certainly better than the godawful composite cable.


@ Gareth -

Lego Batman? Cool :D

Star Wars Lego was great.

------------------------

So, my Wii came on Monday 2nd April. [same day my 360 was returned by MS :) ]

Sent by Amazon by "Standard 1st Class Delivery" (which turned out to actually be Parcelforce 24) - pretty good, seeing as it was ordered the night of Friday 30th March.

I ordered various accessories (component cable, a 2nd Wiimote, a classic controller, SD card, Wii points card) separately to the console [didn't want to waste valuable time adding them to the basket when I ordered the Wii itself, or it may have been sold out by the time I got to the checkout]. Had them sent by "Express Delivery - next business day", to make sure I didn't end up getting them later than I got the Wii itself. But, of course, that actually made it take longer, as they didn't get shipped (via RM Special Delivery) 'till Monday & so arrived on Tuesday.


Had a play on Wii Sports - great fun! :D

Love the tennis, & the bowling is good fun. Haven't tried the golf or boxing yet. Have tried the baseball - thought it was pretty crap (well, it is baseball!).

Have since bought & downloaded Super Mario Bros (NES), Super Mario World (SNES), Mario 64 (N64), Mario Kart 64 (N64), & Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time (N64) for the Virtual Console via the Wii Shopping Channel. Considering getting Donkey Kong Country & Super Probotector, & maybe also Sonic.


Ally has actually played on it! :)

And enjoyed it! :)

And wants to play on it again! :)


"Show me the Wii!", "Let's play tennis!", "Ooh, bowling!", etc. Never had anything like that with the 360, lol.


I've now added Zelda: Twilight Princess to my small collection of Wii games, thanks to Gareth's heads up about Argos selling it for half price.


The next Wii game I'm considering is SSX Blur (had a very good review in gamesTM), & perhaps also Excite Truck, & maybe The Godfather.

And then a long wait for Super Paper Mario (already out in US/Japan, usual long NOE delay for us.........), Mario Galaxy, & Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

Mario Strikers looks pretty good...



The Virtual Console is great. I wish Microsoft gave the XBL Arcade as many regular releases as the VC gets. Although it's a pity there's no demo feature.

The News, Forecast, & Everybody Votes channels are interesting, yet ultimately pointless, for me at least. I haven't tried the "Internet Channel" yet, but, well, I've got a PC, so why bother.


I think I'll hunt down some old GameCube games too, & a Cube controller (preferably a Wavebird). Be nice to play Mario Sunshine again, & maybe Mario Kart Double Dash (not the best of the series, but still fun). Resident Evil 4 would also be good, although there is actually a Wii-specific version on the way so I may wait for that.



Anyway, overall, I give the Wii a big :tu:

Gareth 09-04-2007 01:24

Re: Wii longevity
 
Nice one, Matt :)

If your missus is anything like mine, grab a copy of Donkey Konga and 2 sets of bongos - she'll love it.

ps - here's a list of European Q2 releases. No sign of Super Paper Mario though :( However, Mario Strikers is released on May 25th and will be online, so definitely gonna grab this.

pps - talking of Super Paper Mario, have you seen the 30 minute video of it? http://wii.advancedmn.com/media.php?...1564&medtype=2 :drool:

Tezcatlipoca 10-04-2007 22:21

Re: Wii longevity
 
I got up yesterday to find Ally playing Mario Kart 64 on the VC, lol. Then she played tennis & bowling for a while.


Great video for Super Paper Mario!

Why the wait though :(


Why oh why does Nintendo still hate Europe :(


Over 20 years, & we're still treated like crap.


At least Strikers is out soon.


Some deals:

Excite Truck, £24.99 at Gamestation -

http://www.gamestation.co.uk/product...01279128574277



SSX Blur, £29.98 at Amazon -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-A...6238271&sr=8-1

johnojohn 15-04-2007 20:00

Re: Wii longevity
 
dont be tempted by a Wii, at the min it sounds moderatly ok, but after 6months u will probly sell the obsolete piece of crap, motion sensors aint new, the ds has it and its hardly used, the DS is more revolutionary then the Wii, the games are pretty rubbish too, apart from zelda, get ur self a Ps3, with a new laptop HDD (any sata laptop hdd will work in the ps3) and install linux fedora core 5, u cant go wrong.

Tezcatlipoca 15-04-2007 20:52

Re: Wii longevity
 
Already got a Wii, & think it's great.


PS3? No thanks, not until a) it's not so obscenely expensive, & b) it actually has more than one decent exclusive game worth playing (Motorstorm). Not wasting money on a PS3, just to play games I've been playing on my 360 since last year. I know people on other forums who've already got bored with their shiny new PS3s, now the initial "new toy" novelty has worn off. Anyway, that's for the PlayStation 3 thread, not here.

Damien 15-04-2007 21:01

Re: Wii longevity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnojohn (Post 34276124)
dont be tempted by a Wii, at the min it sounds moderatly ok, but after 6months u will probly sell the obsolete piece of crap, motion sensors aint new, the ds has it and its hardly used, the DS is more revolutionary then the Wii, the games are pretty rubbish too, apart from zelda, get ur self a Ps3, with a new laptop HDD (any sata laptop hdd will work in the ps3) and install linux fedora core 5, u cant go wrong.

The DS doesnt have motion sensors. Also the way it is used is new and it works well in games like Zelda and SSX once you get used to the controls. Anyway, In 6 months the console will start receiving the good games which will help it more. Also Obsolete is hardly a fair statement. Its outselling the PS3 and the 360.

Gareth 15-04-2007 23:30

Re: Wii longevity
 
Obsolete...? Bwahahaha, yeah right :rolleyes:

I saw earlier that Nintendo has now sold 2 million Wiis in Japan alone - not a bad figure considering the console has only been available for 19 weeks. In fact, the only console to have bettered this figure is the PS2 which sold 2M units in 15 weeks (and we all know that the PS2 isn't obsolete - even today).

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/04/3.gif

I'm enjoying Zelda, Wii Sports (still!), Rayman and Excite Truck... next on my list to get is SSX Blur, Tiger Woods, Godfather, Prince of Persia and Super Paper Mario, and still to be released are Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros: Brawl, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, etc...

Hardly what I'd consider obsolete.


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