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Xbox 360 Elite: HDMI-enabled black unit with 120GB HDD in late April
So, looks like the various "Zephyr" rumours were true.
Well, according to some games mag.'s April issue, which it stresses is not an April's Fool joke. http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/20/hd...april-for-479/ http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/20/x...d-120gb-drive/ Ltd Edition black 360 "Elite", placed above the Core & Premium. HDMI output, HDMI cable, 120GB HDD, also apparently runs cooler (& hopefully quieter).... Mmmmmmmmmmmm. A white "Elite" will allegedly then replace the Premium later in the year. |
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Hopefully that white one will be the 65nm one. I'd be inclined to wait for that.
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Grrrr will have only had my xbox 3 months at the most by the time this comes out...wonder how much they are going to charge for the bigger drives?...could be time for a internal hardware failure ;)
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YES!
I have been waiting to get one and now looks like the time :D *Although I do hope they include the 65mm chips, on the bright side buying this will mean your sure of having the quietier drive that started being put in during december |
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saw this last night, the thing to remember is the price quotation in dollars, it doesent mean it will see the light of day in the eu!
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It will eventually, we wait have to wait for the premium to be updated though
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well if it comes I think i will get it. I really hope they have the 65mm chips and built in Wi-Fi but looks like not :(
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Will definitely be buying this when it reaches us!
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does anyone know if the 120gb hdds will be sold seaperately?
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Especially when its just a bog standard 2.5" sata drive in a box basically. |
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Seems way too expencive to me... $20 less that the USA PS3 price, and still no wireless or HD Drive or free life subscription to xbox live... Ouch! i think MSoft just matched the PS3 on price, but forgot to match the features.
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Well at least Sony won't be ripping us off with some all doing improved version next year! :D
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Should be getting my PS3 tomorrow! :D Got my extra controller through today... bloody tease that is!
Not impressed with the 360 so far. Too many hardware failures, and only Gears of War really worth getting from what I've seen. Played it at a mates - great game. |
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these big companies all the same really just interested in the $$$ and nothing else. |
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I would go as far as to say that with the removal of the emoiton engine, we now have PS3 v2 within a few months. Its norm when they do a new version of the hardware its for the better, and not for the worse. Not so in this case |
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And how many Operating systems from the people bringing you an Xbox? And how many of those are bug free (lol!!!)
Not sure how you can put Sony down for making minor changes, when i bet most of you complain about windows all day. |
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Meh, you should be over here then ;) Only GoW? :confused: Far more than that, & certainly more decent games than the PS3 has... But anyway.......... If this is true, then I'll be trading in my launch Premium 360 for an Elite 360. Although I'm not sure whether to hold off for the white one or not... surely the black one will be too soon to be 65nm (as I thought that was later in the year), so the white would prob. be needed for that. Plus, my white HD DVD drive prob. wouldn't go well with a black 360. |
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Anyone know how you would be able to transfer all your saves and paid for content to an 'alledged' Xbox360 Elite machine or for that matter a larger HD?
:confused: Its not possible (at present) me thinks. :confused: Found this: http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=8377 which says: Quote:
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Things like Xbox Live Arcarde games are locked to you Gamertag, not the harddrive, so your free to download them again for nothing assuming there paid for previously. |
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this Might do it although quite a lot of marketplace content is locked down that that if you run it on a different machine to it was downloaded on it will only work whist your signed into xbox live. I know if your 360 goes faulty you can get them to refund the points so you can rebuy the marketplace content on the new one but whether they'd do that for you just because you bought an elite I don't know. |
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Looks like they will have the cooler chips! (along with the quiter drive and better fan!)
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Hmm. I thought the introduction of 65nm was going to be delayed 'till a lot later this year.
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Wow just seen the pic and I have to say it does look good. :tu:
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Dont think thats the actual model. They have been using the developer kits in photos
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Could be an april fools joke - Microsoft haven't actually confirmed the release, check this site out, mentions something about April Fools.... http://www.xboxelite.co.uk/index.php...article&id=129
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The mag the (current) story originally appeared in (Game Informer) has stressed that it isn't an April Fool's.
The rumour/story has appeared elsewhere, with others believing that it is true http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/200...360_elite.html |
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Plus i want it to be true, so that should count too!
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Seems that VM believe it's coming......
http://virginmedia.com/digital/news/...toryid=5094781 Still can't find an official MS report though! |
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It's a particularly cunning move on Microsoft's part as it looks remarkably like a Dell Optiplex... "oh that's the new snmp management workstation boss" ;)
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Rep that man people! |
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Link? I found this that suggests otherwise.. Quote:
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And lets be honest, wouldn't be the first time Microsoft has back tracked on its word, "we have no plans for an upgraded Xbox 360 with HDMI..."... |
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No chance. The space is unneccessary. The read speed is too slow. Not every 360 owner has one. MS wouldn't be stupid enough to do a repeat of SEGA's "MegaCD" mistake. MS have categorically said it's only for movies. HDMI... still not confirmed, & I don't think MS ever fully denied it before IIRC, they just said they wouldn't comment on speculation. And they had previously said they'd sort out HDMI connection for the 360 "when the need/demand was there". |
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MS Bob? Don't forget this is MS we are talking about.... Anything is possiable! |
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Yes blu-Ray.
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The PS3 games are padded out with rubbish data on the disk so the games load quicker.
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True, they do have a habit of being muppets, sometimes. I think the lack of a HDD as standard for the 360 was an insanely stupid decision, for instance. The "Core" 360 is a waste of space. [As for WinMe... that's best not mentioned ever again :erm: ] But I don't think they'd be so stupid as to allow games to use HD DVD, not when only a small proportion of owners have the drive. Developers wouldn't bother making use of it if hardly anyone could then play their games. Besides, HD DVD has not won the HD format war (neither side has, although Blu-ray is in the lead at the moment), so to rest everything on it would be very foolish. MS have even said they wouldn't rule out releasing a Blu-ray add-on for the 360, if that ends up winning. |
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Looking at the pricing, i think they have made a bad move with the Elite... Its still going to be missing the HDdrive (they would of said Playback only) and its going to be £350 when you add on the HD-drive at £130 its still pretty close to the PS3 price.
When you consider that MS should of made their money back on development, they should be taking the oppertunity to squash the 360. If they could bring it out for £300, or maybe even do a HDdrive bundle for £350 they could stamp it out, and they could help to win the format war at the same time. The longer they let all the PS3's play blu-ray without competeing the more people are going to pickup a blu-ray disk when they see them. Doesnt matter if you baught it for the play back or not, if you have a HDTV, and a PS3 your gonna be tempted. MS have definately made the right move, including many of the extras that the PS3 has over them, but i think they should of pushed the price lower, as that would cause real problems for sony, and we all like to see a good fight.at the moment the consoles are split, there a budget console (Wii), the standard console (360 with no extras) and the Pro (PS3). Theres gonna be a new pro with the elite, but its still not going to match the PS3, which it should do. |
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No one will really want to buy all blu-ray yet. The risk of building up a collection in a format that might not exist is not worth it over DVD. Microsoft has a advantage over sony anyway with the amount of games and units sold so I dont think they worried about matching the PS3, rather continuing to lead.
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Well its now official.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...te/default.htm So is the bigger hard drive to buy seperately http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...GB/default.htm |
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The lack of the newer processors and fans is a big disappointment.
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phew for a minute i thought if i do buy a ps3 (probably will in about 3-5 months) I'd not be able to watch my dvds on it.
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There is a price, they said £350 in the Press release which is not a direct conversion so that must be it.
Personally, I am disappointed and will likely just get a premium now. HDMI is cool so is the bigger HD but not worth the increased price/wait. |
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See post #65 for US pricing, no UK pricing or release date as yet.;) |
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Yes, Thats a Direct Conversion but it is not what it will be priced here. The Normal xbox is about £200 pounds using the direct conversion. But its £279 over here. The US price is 1) Cheaper 2) Untaxed
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I see what you mean but there is nothing official as yet for the UK and the rest of Europe for the pricing of the Xbox360 Elite machine.
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http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...box-elite.html
MS Confrim shipping for April 29th un USA & Canada |
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i dont know why? but i really want one!
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I don't think they would. Well, they might, if they happen to include hours of hi def video. |
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Some more photos of the elite here. http://kotaku.com/photogallery/elite360/
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Hmm. Not a limited edition, then...so it won't be turning white & replacing the Premium... Pricey.... :td: Data transfer cable :tu: But only any use if you keep your HDD. Seeing as most existing 360 owners who plan on getting an Elite would surely be trading their old console in, that cable won't be very helpful for them. OK if you're just buying the HDD on its own though. HDMI - :tu: but not really needed at all, apart from so MS can say "So what if the PS3 has HDMI, so does the 360". 120GB HDD - :tu: not really needed at all in the UK yet, seeing as the UK's XBLMarketplace is complete & utter crap compared to the US one, and if/when IPTV comes out over here I bet that sucks too. But it's also another response to Sony. No built-in WiFi :td: - Come on, MS. You obviously did this because of the PS3, so why no built-in WiFi. Hell, even the "cheap & cheerful" console option - the Wii - has WiFi!!!! No 65nm :td: - Pity. I assume that all the versions (Core, Premium, & Elite) will "go 65nm" later in the year. Be nice to know when... I'll get one, though, now my launch 360 has gone off to be repaired. Trade-in for an Elite once they're out... |
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Fully agree with you there Matt
Seems like a deliberately well timed publicity stunt to me. I suppose the talk of it being "limited edition" is based on the possibility that the Elite SKU will be canned as soon as the new Xenon goes into production. Sorting the heat and power issues out is surely more important than adding features which are of limited use in the near term. |
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I wonder when they're gonna announce a UK/Europe price & date......
I may hang on longer, & wait for them to switch to 65nm......... Heat & power issues definitely more important than gimmicks, like you say. Oh, for a reliable 360........ On a side note, thinking ahead to the Elite release, I popped into GAME & Gamestation today, to check what (store credit) trade-in price they currently give for a Premium 360.... £180. Of course, that'll drop if the Premium retail price goes down with the release of the Elite. |
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I think its unfair to the people who spent money on the origonal release who dont have a HDMI port. Does any1 know if there will be any kind of adapter for HDMI for the origonal 360 ?
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HDMI is fairly unnecessary, though, for most people.
Component can be used for anything up to 1080p for games, 1080i for HD DVDs, & normal SD Progressive Scan for DVDs. VGA can be used for anything up to 1080p for both games and HD DVDs, and lets the 360 upscale DVDs up to 1080p. Some 1080p TVs will only take 1080p over HDMI. So if you have one of those, then you need HDMI for 1080p. If you have a 720p or 1080i TV, then it doesn't really matter. HDMI is also necessary for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. But, if you don't have an amp/receiver capable of those anyway, then it's again a bit pointless. The original 360 will not be getting an HDMI cable..... its video output is analogue only apparently. The Elite has an actual separate HDMI output, next to the normal proprietary AV output. |
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This makes a good read about the Elite. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-ente...llo-247635.php
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Yes the ANA scaler chip in the original 360 does not handle digital. Microsoft have designed a new digital capable scaler for the Elite. EDIT: But I suppose at least it's got a hardware scaler ;) (sorry couldn't resist) |
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Got my PS3 now, and am sure I made the right choice for me. Especially after the grief I had with my original Xbox. My mate's enjoying his 360, and at least it hasn't failed on him yet. So we're both happy! :) |
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I'd miss the dual shock if i bought a PS3 but rumours are Sony might bring that feature back. And the fact that the textures are lower quality(something to do with not enough video memory) than on the 360 would bother me. And i think the Xbox 360 controller is way better than the current PS3 one. I'm not saying i'd never buy a PS3 but at the moment it's very unlikely considering how good the Xbox is. [edit] Sorry for taking this thread off topic. |
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Nothing particularly interesting but some nice pics;
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Hopefully, otherwise why the delay?
It would also be nice if they improved (*greatly* improved) the UK Video marketplace... otherwise the extra space of the Elite's 120GB HDD is kind of pointless. |
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You can see inside the new Elite from the below link. Whether it has a 65nm core remains to be seen, but the motherboard layout is different.
http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/news/i..._360_elite.htm |
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Looks like MS still haven't fixed the problems that the original Xbox 360 had.
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Looks really cool!
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It doesn't help that Microsoft never actually owned up to the true scale of the 360 reliability issues. |
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Surely it would've made more sense to sort out the overheating issues etc., rather than rushing out the Elite. Hmm. A comparison between the "classic" 360 & the Elite - http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/26/x...assic-the-test Meh. Don't think I can be arsed. I'll stick with my Premium. |
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The difference between the classic Xbox360 and the Xbox360 Elite:-
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