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Theodoric 10-03-2007 19:23

VM TV Pricing Policy - Quite cunning, really
 
On and off over the past couple of weeks I've been browsing the VM site trying to get my head around all the new offerings. One thing that intrigued me was the total cost of a TV package plus the Sky Sports and Sky Movies, which I imagine must be quite popular. The figures are:

Size M: £37.00

Size L: £42.50

Size XL: £44.00

Now the interesting thing is the £1.50 difference between L & XL. This is small enough for your average user to say to himself, "Hmm, not much extra, might as well go for XL." Of course, with enough people this is going to make a tidy extra profit for VM.

What I can't think of is a simple explanation for is the £5.50 difference between M and L, which is much more off-putting. Anyone care to hazard a guess at Virgin's reasoning?

nicke261192 10-03-2007 19:32

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I never pay attention to any of there prices on the website! I just phone them up say i am going to leave for sky and get a fab offer

Downloads 10-03-2007 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodoric (Post 34247658)
On and off over the past couple of weeks I've been browsing the VM site trying to get my head around all the new offerings. One thing that intrigued me was the total cost of a TV package plus the Sky Sports and Sky Movies, which I imagine must be quite popular. The figures are:

Size M: £37.00

Size L: £42.50

Size XL: £44.00

Now the interesting thing is the £1.50 difference between L & XL. This is small enough for your average user to say to himself, "Hmm, not much extra, might as well go for XL." Of course, with enough people this is going to make a tidy extra profit for VM.

What I can't think of is a simple explanation for is the £5.50 difference between M and L, which is much more off-putting. Anyone care to hazard a guess at Virgin's reasoning?

I think the bottom one is so cheap as it comes free with other things. From what i can make out, freeview is probably slightly better compared to it.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicke261192 (Post 34247672)
I never pay attention to any of there prices on the website! I just phone them up say i am going to leave for sky and get a fab offer

Isn't this said enough on other threads.

Theodoric 10-03-2007 19:38

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Originally Posted by nicke261192 (Post 34247672)
I never pay attention to any of there prices on the website! I just phone them up say i am going to leave for sky and get a fab offer

Well, yes. :) However, there must be some rationale behind the Virgin price policy.

nicke261192 10-03-2007 20:14

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true true

AndyCambs 10-03-2007 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodoric (Post 34247658)
On and off over the past couple of weeks I've been browsing the VM site trying to get my head around all the new offerings. One thing that intrigued me was the total cost of a TV package plus the Sky Sports and Sky Movies, which I imagine must be quite popular. The figures are:

Size M: £37.00

Size L: £42.50

Size XL: £44.00

Now the interesting thing is the £1.50 difference between L & XL. This is small enough for your average user to say to himself, "Hmm, not much extra, might as well go for XL." Of course, with enough people this is going to make a tidy extra profit for VM.

What I can't think of is a simple explanation for is the £5.50 difference between M and L, which is much more off-putting. Anyone care to hazard a guess at Virgin's reasoning?

But the package prices are much more attractive.

iadom 10-03-2007 21:33

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I am currently on XL/4MGB BB, two STB's ( one V+ ) and phone. My bill is always over £100 per month, just reading this weeks VM edition of Radio Times and it is advertising the VM VIP package, Full TV, 10 MG BB, V+ box plus extra V+ box, phone size XL, all for £85.00 per month.

This seems like a no brainer, will I be able to ring them up and request all of this and save £15.00 to £30.00 a month?

:notopic: Would I need a separate modem for the 10 Meg BB? Currently have BB via Samsung STB.

homealone 10-03-2007 21:45

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yes, you should be able to specify a 'stand alone' modem, to optimise the connection, the stb isn't happy with 10 meg, afaik ...

- let us know how it goes, iadom :)

Nikesh 10-03-2007 21:49

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Yep you can change to the VIP package and ask for a cable modem too...

iadom 10-03-2007 21:53

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Annoying thing is I have only recently changed my mobile to Virgin, nice nokia N73 for £30.00 per month. for a total of £125.00 per month on the 'Complete VIP package' the world could have been my Lobster( 700). :( :D

Jim.

Hugh 11-03-2007 15:46

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Originally Posted by nicke261192 (Post 34247672)
I never pay attention to any of there prices on the website! I just phone them up say i am going to leave for sky and get a fab offer

And how do you do that?

If I remember rightly from your initial posts last year, you're about 15 years old ...............;)

NTLVictim 11-03-2007 17:06

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I'm waiting for the unbundling that dickie boy promised..packages are restrictive.

GuestUK 11-03-2007 17:20

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Originally Posted by NTLVictim (Post 34248327)
I'm waiting for the unbundling that dickie boy promised..packages are restrictive.


I have tried to find references to unbundling in this regard but haven't had any luck at all. I was wondering if you had any link with more details? This would certainly make Virgin more attractive and would be a great idea - I've always hated the bundling of television channels, especially Virgin's as it's even more restrictive than Sky's (to get one channel you want, you have to get the XL pack and end up with loads you don't want).

SnoopZ 11-03-2007 17:36

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Originally Posted by Downloads (Post 34247679)
I think the bottom one is so cheap as it comes free with other things. From what i can make out, freeview is probably slightly better compared to it.

I have Freeview and i'm thinking of getting the VM free tv box, as according to the channel listing you now get the Discovery Channel +1 included. This for me makes it better than Freeview.

K Man 12-03-2007 07:15

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34247805)
I am currently on XL/4MGB BB, two STB's ( one V+ ) and phone. My bill is always over £100 per month, just reading this weeks VM edition of Radio Times and it is advertising the VM VIP package, Full TV, 10 MG BB, V+ box plus extra V+ box, phone size XL, all for £85.00 per month.

This seems like a no brainer, will I be able to ring them up and request all of this and save £15.00 to £30.00 a month?

:notopic: Would I need a separate modem for the 10 Meg BB? Currently have BB via Samsung STB.

I had the same thoughts and upgarded my "packagé" this weekend I was on £74 pm before phone calls and any Films. Trust me my gurlfriend †caines the the phone, so I'm gonna be saving quite a bit there!!!


†note for CF moderators - "caines" is London colocialism for heavy usage. For instance, "Oi!! Kevin you greedy git, you've cained all the biscuits, there's none left!!". Hope this clears things up for you??

iadom 12-03-2007 11:16

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And there was me thinking it should be spelt caned, as in hit hard, or given some stick.;)

Jim.
PS. I would think that the word 'caned' used in this context is well known throughout the land, and certainly by most of the CF mods.


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Originally Posted by K Man (Post 34248838)


note for CF moderators - "caines" is London colocialism for heavy usage. For instance, "Oi!! Kevin you greedy git, you've cained all the biscuits, there's none left!!". Hope this clears things up for you??

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I have just phoned CS, they are coming on the 28th of March with another V+ box and a modem, followed hopefully by a significantly reduced bill. No need for veiled threats to leave, I would not have lost any sleep had the been unable to update me, would certainly not have gone over to the 'Dark Side'

Jim.

Hugh 12-03-2007 11:21

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actually, it's "caned", not "cained"; as in - overdoing it (usually applied to overdrinking). ;)

cf Oxford Dictionary
caned
• adjective 1 (of furniture) made or repaired with cane. 2 Brit. informal intoxicated with drink or drugs.


Beaten to it by iadom :)

iadom 12-03-2007 11:27

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34248938)
actually, it's "caned", not "cained"; as in - overdoing it (usually applied to overdrinking). ;)

:)

Round here we usually say ratted( short for rattarsed) or cabbaged. :D

Hugh 12-03-2007 11:37

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34248950)
Round here we usually say ratted( short for rattarsed) or cabbaged. :D

Wikisaurus has some good ones -
Wiki

One I hadn't come across before was
"terried"

("in reference to Terri Schiavo in her vegetative state")

iadom 12-03-2007 11:45

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Perhaps I need to do a Wiki edit , no rattarsed or cabbaged on that list.:)

Hugh 12-03-2007 11:58

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Down the bottom (oo-er, missus) of the page, under taboo slang.

Anyway, this is waaaaaaaay off-topic. <my bad>

NTLVictim 12-03-2007 12:06

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Originally Posted by GuestUK (Post 34248341)
I have tried to find references to unbundling in this regard but haven't had any luck at all. I was wondering if you had any link with more details? This would certainly make Virgin more attractive and would be a great idea - I've always hated the bundling of television channels, especially Virgin's as it's even more restrictive than Sky's (to get one channel you want, you have to get the XL pack and end up with loads you don't want).

Richard said it in the streamed video of the launch, he said it's "something we will be looking at", or something like that..it was in the question and answer session.

Itshim 12-03-2007 13:58

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Originally Posted by NTLVictim (Post 34248979)
Richard said it in the streamed video of the launch, he said it's "something we will be looking at", or something like that..it was in the question and answer session.

O yes please I think we watch about 10-12 channels including bbc1&2, itv1 4 & 5.

But to keep every one happy ( ie the boss:Yikes:) We need XL. At least when it was NTL we could "dump" the rest at the bottom. Now its go to favorites and wade about in that . before it was just move "across" and they were al in a line!:erm:

iadom 12-03-2007 19:29

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34247805)
I am currently on XL/4MGB BB, two STB's ( one V+ ) and phone. My bill is always over £100 per month, just reading this weeks VM edition of Radio Times and it is advertising the VM VIP package, Full TV, 10 MG BB, V+ box plus extra V+ box, phone size XL, all for £85.00 per month.

Lest I mislead anyone, I should point out that I made a mistake in that post, I should have said VIP package includes a V+ box plus extra. V box. Which I already have, there was a bit of confusion on the phone to CS this morning, all sorted.

Either way, my current services will go from 4meg to 10meg BB with a monthly reduction of between £15 & £30 in cost so I am 'dead chuffed'

Jim.

Hugh 12-03-2007 20:18

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Well done.


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