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ChrisCroc 01-03-2007 23:50

how to get a free upgrade
 
Ring Virgin on 150 - wait an hour or so to get thru !

Then ask to downgrade your tv package because of sky gone ( important mention sky )

You will be offered a free six month upgrade.

I went from L to XL for free.

Womble 02-03-2007 00:09

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Originally Posted by ChrisCroc (Post 34238560)
Ring Virgin on 150 - wait an hour or so to get thru !

Then ask to downgrade your tv package because of sky gone ( important mention sky )

You will be offered a free six month upgrade.

I went from L to XL for free.

And too pay for it they can lay a few more engineers off!!, But hey you get your service for free, so what do you care?? well, that is until you get ****e service and want an engineer to correct the problem:shocked:

holographic 02-03-2007 00:11

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34238591)
And too pay for it they can lay a few more engineers off!!, But hey you get your service for free, so what do you care?? well, that is until you get ****e service and want an engineer to correct the problem:shocked:


Then service slips and they lose even more customers. That is a Virgin business decision and should have no relevance if you are trying to get a deal with them!

handyman 02-03-2007 00:11

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Worlds gone mad.

FYI Virgin I'm available for CSR consultancy £600 per day if your ok to throw money about...

Womble 02-03-2007 00:21

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Originally Posted by holographic (Post 34238596)
Then service slips and they lose even more customers. That is a Virgin business decision and should have no relevance if you are trying to get a deal with them!

quite correct, my point is they (Virgin) should have said NO

sas1979 02-03-2007 00:23

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Originally Posted by ChrisCroc (Post 34238560)
Ring Virgin on 150 - wait an hour or so to get thru !

Then ask to downgrade your tv package because of sky gone ( important mention sky )

You will be offered a free six month upgrade.

I went from L to XL for free.

I got my tv upgraded and my broadband upgraded to 10 meg from 4 and I'm saving £6 in the process.

Large tv, stand phone line & 10 meg broadband for £35 isnt bad.

holographic 02-03-2007 00:26

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34238618)
quite correct, my point is they (Virgin) should have said NO

They were (still are) worried about losing customers or they WOULD have said no.

rtj70 02-03-2007 00:37

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Most recent bill is a lot lower than previous... now it's VM I think prices may have come down - they have for me anyway.

and getting the new V+ box this week saves me on the extra STB's too. V+ and another 10 quid a month better off... checked all prices via website and I'm paying what I should I think.

CrossyX 02-03-2007 08:22

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34238591)
And too pay for it they can lay a few more engineers off!!, But hey you get your service for free, so what do you care?? well, that is until you get ****e service and want an engineer to correct the problem:shocked:

Thats ridiculous, people want to save money and will do so if they can. Its not the consumers problem if people get laid off, that would be the Virgins problem.

Graham M 02-03-2007 08:25

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Originally Posted by CrossyX (Post 34238748)
Thats ridiculous, people want to save money and will do so if they can. Its not the consumers problem if people get laid off, that would be the Virgins problem.

What are you going on about!? If Engineers get laid off, the problem is passed onto you when your TV and Internet die and you have to wait 2 weeks for one to come.

CrossyX 02-03-2007 08:36

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I have to wait weeks for one to come anyway. Its not as Virgin is a small business. I have been with NTL for about 8 years and when a problem has accured its been nothing but a major hastle everytime. Its a business, im not here to fund other people pockets im here to get what deals is best for me. Im sorry but the service has always been appauling, i didnt see NTL (Virgin) in a hurry to give me any money back for loss of service, or days spent in waiting for engineers that never arrived, wrong payments taken out of the bank, hours spent on the phone being past from pillar to post (when to phone was not free) so forgive me if i am not sypathetic about funding other peoples pockets i have my own bills to pay.

One last thing my internet did die, 3 months later it got sorted my tv i sent back as that was off for the most of this time aswell. They didnt know what the problem was as it was happening to a few people in my area, Amazing in the end it was the box tripping out due to a fuse.

Action Jackson 02-03-2007 09:31

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34238591)
And too pay for it they can lay a few more engineers off!!, But hey you get your service for free, so what do you care?? well, that is until you get ****e service and want an engineer to correct the problem:shocked:



Oh come on, climb down from that soap box of yours.


If they couldn't afford to do it then they wouldn't. Believe me, they will still be making money, even if they upgraded every single customer.

Hugh 02-03-2007 09:34

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson (Post 34238801)
Oh come on, climb down from that soap box of yours.


If they couldn't afford to do it then they wouldn't. Believe me, they will still be making money, even if they upgraded every single customer.

And do you base that statement upon examination of the year end accounts, ARPU, EBITDA, knowledge of future investment plans and current/future running costs of the business, debt repayments, etc, etc; or are you just making it up on the spot? :D

Action Jackson 02-03-2007 09:39

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34238804)
And do you base that statement upon examination of the year end accounts, ARPU, EBITDA, knowledge of future investment plans and current/future running costs of the business, debt repayments, etc, etc; or are you just making it up on the spot? :D


I'm saying it because I know it. :D


You really think that they would give away something that means that they would run at a loss? Do you really think it costs a lot of money to 'switch on' some extra channels for you?

Hugh 02-03-2007 09:46

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson (Post 34238814)
I'm saying it because I know it. :D

"know it" - is that like "making it up"? ;)

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson (Post 34238814)
You really think that they would give away something that means that they would run at a loss?

Nobody said at a loss; it is being offered at a reduced price, as a potential short-term reduction in profits/turnover in order to retain customers, and to retain the ability to cross-sell in the future; unfortunately, in the short-term, less cash-flow is available (reduced prices, reduced profit) therefore investment in capital and operating expenditure could be reduced.

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson (Post 34238814)
Do you really think it costs a lot of money to 'switch on' some extra channels for you?

I think the current (non-)negotiations show that it does.....;) ; switching on the channels just take a quick activation of an option on a computer screen; but you still have to pay the supplier for them, which costs money.

Action Jackson 02-03-2007 09:50

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34238817)
I think the current (non-)negotiations show that it does.....;) ; switching on the channels just take a quick activation of an option on a computer screen; but you still have to pay the supplier for them, which costs money.


Do VM pay for the channels on an individual subscriber basis?


Maybe I am wrong, but I don't believe that they do. Therefore, it costs them nothing to give them to you free of charge, providing that they have the rights to them anyway.

NTLVictim 02-03-2007 09:56

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When you offer top service, THEN you can charge top whack.

I reserve the right to get the best deal I can with whoever I deal with, so I can squander the savings I make on fripperies like food, the mortgage, heat and light, etc.

Hugh 02-03-2007 09:57

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Originally Posted by Action Jackson (Post 34238823)
Do VM pay for the channels on an individual subscriber basis?


Maybe I am wrong, but I don't believe that they do. Therefore, it costs them nothing to give them to you free of charge, providing that they have the rights to them anyway.

They pay by subscriber - you can believe all you want, but that is how they pay (Sky has raised the price by subscriber, but with an annual minimum of £40 million, which is why these "problems" are occurring).

leics poshie 02-03-2007 09:58

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Just been given Free Premiership plus for the rest of the season

Thankyou Virgin and the guy told me where to download episodes of lost and 24

Graham M 02-03-2007 09:59

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Originally Posted by leics poshie (Post 34238833)
Thankyou Virgin and the guy told me where to download episodes of lost and 24

LoL.

dh010447 02-03-2007 10:07

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I would like a free upgrade too! But I would feel bad considering I never relay watched any of the Sky channels. 10MB broadband would be nice. That wouldn't cost them anything extra, so maybe that will ease my conscience...

Action Jackson 02-03-2007 10:14

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Originally Posted by dh010447 (Post 34238847)
I would like a free upgrade too! But I would feel bad considering I never relay watched any of the Sky channels. 10MB broadband would be nice. That wouldn't cost them anything extra, so maybe that will ease my conscience...


If you are still paying the same amount of money for an inferior service (no sky channels), then why should you not pursue an upgrade to compensate?


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