20 Meg From June
 

just reading the earnings report ....scroll down to broadband it says 10mb increasing to 20 meg in june.


http://library.corporate-ir.net/libr...essRelease.pdf

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sweet

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Thats nice, be nice to have a full working 20mb as well :D

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Upgrade in June, wooohooooo!!

Will we need new modems? Surely current ones can't support 20M

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200 and 250 ambits can do 20 meg that much i know. :)

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I dont need it if there is a middle 10 meg ill stay with that. I can wait an hour for my dvd ;)

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the NTL 250 does do the 20meg :)

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Good point, time will tell what packages are available, and at what cost with any limits / caps etc etc :tu:

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Not wanting to **** on anyones fire, as I certainly hope its a free upgrade for 10mb users, to 20mb - but it doesn't actually say we'll be getting the upgrade for free. Heres the extract:

Just says that they currently offer 10mb as the fastest but that will be increasing to 20mb. Its open to suggestion and interpretation but it doesn't mean it'll be free. It could mean they'll be adding a 20mb option to their product range, no?

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I don't think anyone mentioned a 'free' upgrade :shrug:

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I have just got my connection upgraded from 10mbit to 20mbit again. I was on the old 20mbit trial last october. Maybe they're doing some more tests, hopefully I can keep this new conneciton now. Anway it is 20mbit down and 768k up, for those who wanted to know what the upload rate is like.

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The current modems should be able to cope with spedds up to 43MB.

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ok. would you mind posting config info for us please?

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I thought it'd be here sooner than June... It should also be a free upgrade from 10mb. Maybe we'll see new tiers like 4mb 10mb and 20mb? Time will tell.

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I hope so... would be good to get 10Mb and a quicker upload speed. :)

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Or even 10mb 20mb and 50mb

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I don't believe they'd offer that just yet, atleast not by June anyway,

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wishful thinking lol

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any idea what the upload will be?

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there's talk of 768K

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IMHO the people (like myself) who pay for 10Mb should get the upgrades first.

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So much for releasing it by early 2007 like they said last year on BBC breakfast show, but its good to finally have some idea of when its going to happen.

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well june is a long way off as some people are on 20 meg again ? is it a gradual roll out starting now or is that more trials and rollout all in june ?

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Yeah, is it FROM June, or BY June?

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Sounded like to me that they will be increasing the 10mb to 20mb and because it's involved in packages i can't see it increasing in cost.

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What about the poor buggers that get about 2mbit when subscribed to the 10mbit service? I think Virgin better sort them out before they think about releasing 20mbit ! Seems like they dont give much of a toss about existing customers and are only interested in gaining new ones and being the first for 20mbit cable. Not amused! :(

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I wouldnt mind 1mbit upload......I think its justified nowdays.

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Bulldog give a 1Mb upload, so do Be, so i think Virgin should aswell.

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Totally agree. :tu:

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Yep!

Mind you, I've not heard great things about Bulldog, they were one of the big 3 who have had the most customer disatisfaction!

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abit more info for you all.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cable/a43305/virgin-confirms-20mbps-broadband.html

Virgin has confirmed that its top tier of broadband service will be upgraded to a 20Mbps downstream speed across its network by June.

Some limited trials of 20Mbps service have already been undertaken by the cable operator. Virgin's top tier "XL" broadband service currently offers a downstream speed of 10Mbps.

"As an end-to-end network owner, cable has inbuilt advantages in the quality of broadband service that we offer," the company said in its financial results statement today. "Customers can receive consistent speeds no matter where they live on our network and a top speed of 10Mb is available throughout our broadband addressable areas. We will be increasing this to 20Mb in June and we are also currently conducting a residential trial of a 50Mb broadband service."

Also does anyone know what the limit is on my Motorola SB5101E SURFboard modem?

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BY june yey i wonder if this is the start then ?

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I downgraded from 10mb to 4mb a month ago. since then i have had a consistent download speed of 3.8Kb (kbs)? whatever. I'll wait to see what happens but if they do roll out 20mb lets hope the upgrade those of us with Teryons Cable modems otherwise not much point!
:o:

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Amazing this has just been released on the day some people maybe thinking about jumping ship and moving to sky due to the loss of sky1 etc, convienent timing i must say. Maybe they should try and sort out there current network before promising to overload it more :rolleyes:

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Yeah, they are already swapping Terayon modems if you are on 10Mb. :)

:gpoint: Never realised this could be due to the removal of Sky channels.

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should be more than capable of 20Mb, seeing as the Surfboard 4200 is capable of (IIRC) 38Mb BB

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more than likely, now it is a big of a stupid thing how they are leaveing it till JUNE like 3 - 4 months by then they will have lost thousands of customers...

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I had my Terayon changed for a 250 (Would this take 5Mb?)

Is there even a CM that can handle 50Mb+?

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the ntl 250's can take 38Mbps im sure, i think the new Virgin 255's can only take 38Mbps too

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So what good will 50Mb be?

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You will get a new modem for 50Mb. The modems they are using in the trials are much much bigger than a 250 modem though...

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How soon though?

Its taken me over 6 months to get the 350

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got any pics? :tu:

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No sorry I can't find any pics... there was a link to a scanned newspaper article which had a pic of the modem on this forum. I remember someone saying on this forum that the modem is double the size of his Linksys WRT54G!!

A link to the 50Mb trial: http://www.ntlpilot.co.uk/

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I guess with 20Mbit available, the warez crowd expect to leech 6,480 GB/month and expect NTL not to complain about their excessive usage.

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NTL wont, Virgin Media might :p.

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One thing is they are doing this, but the last time they eliminated 1MB BB, and auto-switched 1MB/3 for £30 customers to 2MB BB for no extra cost.

I wonder, when the 20MB is done, we will get 4MB...

Also, they are residentially trialing 50MB BB too!

Weyhey!

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great! cant wait for this to kick in, looks like ntl/ telewest's (back then) promises are showing some fruition!

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agreed, although I have been paying £15 per month since october last year for 10mb (but nowhere near those speeds - took a lot of grief, hassle and telephone calls to get it too). I hear people are getitng compensation now of free broadband until problem is fixed - anyone here this ?

If they do rollout 20mb, and plenty of us still in areas that can't recieve 10mb yet - maybe a class action law suit will make them listen??? ;)

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I have been on blueyonder many years, 10meg which I get near enough at 05.00am but by 6.30am it drops to 100k or so and reamins there through till midnight. dunno if upgrade to 20 meg means anything, I doubt it, probably they need to dig up the roads and put more cabling in. Am in London and imagine evryone down our street is sharing the same cable now. I initially tried many of the fixes suggested here and there but none helped and the fact that its ok in the night leads me to conclude the service is simply not up to all the users. Oh well. Am tempted to change but its such a hassle and no doubt the same thing happens to all the providers in time

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They won't need to re-lay cable to upgrade the speed. Have you called them to find out why your speed drops to an un-usable level for the majority of the day?

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great news for some I'm sure, but it'll no doubt mean even more moany threads on CF going 'but I'm only getting 19.99mb!?!?!?!?!!' :dozey:

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Yeah some people just don't see the words "Up to" ;) Never mind, I'm sure the forum server will be upgraded before then.

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Actually in some areas where it's not there there is a requirement to lay more fibre in order to resegment areas and split nodes. Loads of fibre went down in Leicester, Southampton and other places.

Some people may see contractors putting string in the ground to do the necessary capacity upgrades to allow for upgrades :)

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Well having just spoken to retentions today I'd like to give you the information I was given which was supposed to make me re-consider leaving...

".. as from next quarter we will be making 50mb available for just an extra £2 / month on what you are paying now."

That would make 50MB £36.99 a month.

Not sure I believe him, but if he's lying to try to stop people leaving, thats pretty dispicable.

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Well its fine in my area, no overloading here!
I get 1208kB/s (10MEG) 24/7 here, so bring on the 20Meg!! ;) ;) ;)

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It seems 20mb is being tested again in my area (Preston) as i just downloaded a tv show at a constant 2400KB,why do i say tested and not rolled out because as many of you will asked i checked my config page and 10mb config remains.I also did a file tranfer to friend to test upload and i uploaded to him at around 80-95KB.;)

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AGAIN THIS IS ALL *BULL* ******

Why dont you people get it through your heads that BROADBAND SPEED is just a MARKETING TOY.

You're all just letting them continue to DEGRADE OUR SERVICE.

STABLE FAST LATENT NETWORK is what we want not SO CALLED 100000000x speed BROKENBAND.

Cheers

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Nowt wrong with my 10Mb in Derby. Loving it.

Not real fussy on the 20Mb download, but the extra upload will do a treat. :D I'm quite happy chugging along at 10Mb down.

JG

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Hoping to get a free bump from 4 to 10 :)

If they're serious about starting TV channels to take on sky they'll try & take em on, on the broadband market as well. Branson loves a fight :D

Sky offer 16Mb for £10 don't they??? Not sure.

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Same with me. I get that exact same speed 24/7. RB is making this company awesome :tu:.

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Hrm well I get 16Mbit+ 24x7 but I doubt that's anyone in the Murdoch family personally making my broadband awesome, it was awesome before they were involved and remained awesome after, so I'm not going to kiss up to them. ;)

A comment like that is a good example of how successful the rebrand has been though, personally thanking Branson for your ntl:Telewest broadband's performance prior to him ever getting involved :tu:

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Yer we know you've said several times, doesn't mean everyone is fine though, but I have heard that VM are doing investment in capacity upgrades, which is nice :)

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at least, for sure.;)

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"Originally Posted by Player22"
I guess with 20Mbit available, the warez crowd expect to leech 6,480 GB/month

You mean per week surely? :)

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hope your right kiddo,i will be all for it and thanks for digging that info up.:tu:

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no doubt they say june but i bet it gets pushed back or they will be yet another mistake on there part (like the upstream on there website)

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got to better than the 10MB service some are getting eh.... ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...007/03/104.png

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Your not on Cable then are you? Good for you to get 16Mb 24/7. The rebrand has been awesome. Customer Service has improved a whole lot. Some awesome new packages have come out and the network seems a whole lot more stable.

As a plus, RB is one of the best people that could run the company. HE ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE CUSTOMERS and he wont have anything or anyone damage Virgin's reputation that he has built.

EDIT: Oh, did I forget to mention the free 20Mb upgrade and new 50Mb package thanks to RB? I don't mean to offend you :).

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^ got to agree tbh, I like Richard Branson.

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i also like him one of the few billionaires who deserves EVERYTHING he has, things can only improve, as darkgashx said, he iwll let nothing ruin his reputation

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its not a good start though - alot of virgin customers are unhappy about losing skyone and sky news

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Again, not really Virgin's fault. What I see is--Sky is scared of VM (I would be too) so if they are going to loose customers or have a tough time what would you do? RIP OFF THE SOURCE! Haha! We have our answer?

They did the right thing to me.

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You are amusing, you've no evidence that Branson is anything to do with any of the above :)

He controls about 1/5th of the company he doesn't run it. Nothing has been mentioned about a free 20Mbit upgrade merely that it will be available and 50Mbit has been knocked about for a year now.

Sorry to burst your RB bubble and thoughts that he is the second coming, I'll leave you to kiss your Branson poster and take your RB doll to bed with you. :)

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Hehe you can only get 16Mbit and we'll have 20 :o: :sleep:

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One of us has it now and has for months, one of us doesn't. :angel:

EDIT: Ah you're in Warrington, careful not to download too much else you may find yourself slowed to half speed ;)

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and one of us will have a constantly improved connection and one of us will be on 16meg for a long time to come

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not after midnight sunshine ;)

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no wonder a lot of people hate sky, look how employees act, disgraceful.

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You know this for a fact that you'll get 20Mbit 24x7 with no congestion? We'll see. :)

Good for you, I have no throttling either before or after midnight 'sunshine' however much I download :)

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What reputation? Look at my sig!

Have you flied with Virgin Atlantic? cattle class and more expensive than BA. He is PR and no service.

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If you say so. Not sure what was wrong with those comments but I'm sure you'll enlighten me :)

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nothing is wrong with the comments, but the way you are putting them accross is totaly ignorant, sky employee eh i hope u aint a CS rep

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I've had the 20mbit trial in the past with no problems

Like anything in some areas its good and some areas bad, i'm one of the lucky ones, like your one of the lucky ones too ;)

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OK I'm completely lost. There is nothing wrong with what I'm saying but it's wrong for me to be putting it across over a forum. Hrm ok, and no I'm not a CS rep.

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I hope that it remains that good for you. My service does actually sync up at over 20Mbit and I get 18Mbit on a good day, but 16Mbit is as low as it goes, usually higher :)

20Mbit will be an excellent product if they can pull it off, however I do have my concerns about offering a 'guaranteed' 20Mbit product with only 38Mbit to offer between all the people in a node.

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well i guess all of us didnt have the luxury of a decent education eh :dozey: cant even interpret what i am saying correctly, but never mind ..

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maybe docsis 3 in light of 50 meg ? and 20 meg wud not be a problem at all then

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Nope don't have a clue what you're trying to say. Your lack of capitalisation and punctuation does make me doubt that I'm the one who is educationally challenged though.

20Mbit will be over DOCSIS 1 / 1.1 assuming it is infact an upgrade as DOCSIS 3 services will require expensive new modems, though of course you already knew that :dozey:

Methinks 50Mbit will be coming a bit later and won't be available to the entire cable modem marketable area. I'm certified in this stuff, are you? ;)

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they gona do 50 over docsis 1 as well ? lol i do not believe in punctuation or capitalisation as this is only a forum and hardly formal now is it

could you do a speedtest let me take a look at how great your conn is

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Young man as I said I'm certified in this stuff and am fully aware of the capabilities of DOCSIS and EuroDOCSIS, which you are not :)

I'm pretty sure you mentioned that 20Mbit wouldn't be a problem over DOCSIS 3 to which I mentioned that it would be delivered over the existing DOCSIS 1 / 1.1 network so what you say there is completely irrelevant. A fairly feeble attempt to twist what I said.

Don't try and match technical skills with me please, if you are going to I suggest you spend the next 4 years working with cable and DSL :angel:

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lol... well anyways... speedtest ?

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Said Rupert Murdoch's beeyatch.

:p:

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/03/98.png

Yes it's an old test but that speed test seems to be struggling to keep up at the mo ;)

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Hehe it's just a job my man. I have no mass of loyalty :)

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damn, i will let u off :P u get that constant ALL the time ?

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Carl, why do you have a connection better then 16Mbps?

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Why the Paris server? Wouldnt you get a better result using London or Dublin??

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look, tired of this sky/vm banter. leave it out :rolleyes:

bottom line is - vm cannot deliver 10mb across its network at the moment. and the paragraph that states that in their results is a lie. period. now they have 4 months before they roll out 20mb.

Will they have upgraded all over capacity UBR's before then? NO

Will they have "teething" troubles on the 20mb rollout like the 10mb was with both Telewest and NTHELL ? YES

The 20mb will attract alot more customers, especially high usage ones (which lets face it is the only reason for having such speeds) and before long their will be capacity issues once more. back to square one. And why attract high usage users if you are going to penalise them and throttle that 2omb form the word go?

VM - What a set of ******s.

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VM can deliver the XL connection its just that at peak times the connection or should I say download problems happen "simply put" but the up load speed is fine.

I have both adsl and cable and at the moment. At different times they both suffer problems, I am just hanging around to see what happens in June with cable as I run a small game server and no heavy down loads, 20 meg sounds good I would love to know the upload speed.

I know I should get a dedicated server from a company that can support the server but I like to be in control of it at all times in a manor I see fit and not the provider if you know what I mean (custom maps configs ect).

Just my 2p worth....

For information my connection over the last week has been a solid 9.5 meg keep it up VM.

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Hey Locky, if you had paid more attention to the teacher at school you could have grown up to be a TelCo Engineer :D :D
......... there again, you are probably better off as you are, I have yet to meet one who isn't totally ****ed off with the job.

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Careful :nono: :LOL:


For Carl J

Warrington has STM on between 4 and midnight but at any other time it Full speed ahead :)

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I can do things twice as quickly as someone with 8Mbit :)

I could be considered to waste it considering I use perhaps 15GB a month but hey... :)

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You should attach your CV to your sig!

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Get enough calls from bloody agencies without doing that.

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lol Don't be a joke, you say lets leave the Sky/VM banter out then say something that is inflamatory. I don't know an organisation yet who delivers the speeds they are supposed to, to everyone. Maybe a couple of the insignificant ones do!