SKY VS Virgin Media
 

If Sky remove they channels from Virgin Media at the end of this month?

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there's no way I'd go over to sky - there's only a few programmes on Sky One I watch & I'm sure I can find other ways of seeing them

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Are they the people who put up those horrible woks on houses?? No way!!

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Apparently Sky can't do this... They have to allow NTL to re-broadcast Sky channels for broadcasting regulations. However, its a bit ambiguous...

From CF news article:

:confused:

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i will be stop virgin media.no thanks to sky. not now may be virgin media will bring out a virgin 1 ,news ,

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They might not be able to refuse the channels, but what's to stop them offering them at a ridiculous rate knowing that Virgin Media would then not take them?

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:p:

It's a close run thing this one isn't it lol

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that would still be seen as anti-competitive, same thing with BT and BT wholesale, BT wholesale afaik cant sell to BT at different rates to what they charge other ISPs.

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Sky One was one of the reasons for getting subscription TV way back in the analogue Diamond Cable days. There is still too much good stuff on Sky One to go without it.

Not that I realistically think Sky will pull it's channels off Virgin.

Mark

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there isn't anyway that sky will give up the 3.3 million cable coverage of sky 1 or any other channel... ;)

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sky need ntl/virgin media as much as they need sky. Ntl are sky's biggest customer and it would be crazy and against regulations to pull the channles off!!

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Yeh, a good point.

I think its all wind on Sky's part, just upping the anti really. I voted to stay with Virgin, I've been a customer since 97, and they have rarely put a foot wrong with me.

I'd miss Sky 1 a little if they oulled it, but given that about only 20% of their daily offering are not repeats, I have to ask if I would miss it that much.

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Sky are not, and never were even thinking of removing their channels from ntl, Telewest & Virgin Media. This was just a publicity stunt to try and make some people leave an d join sky and to get Sky's name back into the news, since Virgin Media is all over the news at the moment, lots of people are talking about it.

Anyway, i'll be keeping my internet with Virgin Media and i'll be keeping my TV with Sky, for now anyway....

...unless Virgin Media offer something really good.

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I wonder when Branson will make a bid for Sky? :dunce:

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When England win the World Cup:D :D :D

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haha... they wouldn't be able to pay for it, ntl are still recovering from almost going backrupt a little while ago

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OK, I think that decides it! NEVERRRR!!!;):dunce::D

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I believe it's only premium channels they HAVE to let them have :)

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I have no idea about the rights or wrongs of Sky pulling the the plug. Sky needs the money from cable companies; viewers may leave Virgin Media's television service but Sky is not necessarily the alternative supplier. Many would stick with Virgin Media for their telephone and broadband services and would either opt for Freeview or the their analogue service, soon to be digital tv. I object to the idea of paying BT for a telephone line rental and paying another company for the calls. I have got so used to having one bill for telephone, broadband and digital tv the same as I have got used to paying one bill for gas and electricity. Let's wait and see. :angel:

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Staying with Virgin Media. Don't want a dish put up outside. Hardly watch Sky channels anyway...

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And i would be prepared to take bets that a couple of the people who have voted to switch, already have Sky.

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Can't get Virgin Media, stupid idea to run cables everywhere in my opinion. Sky automatically wins my vote just because they service a wider area, and my area for that matter.

Until Virgin Media can think of a better idea to get more customers, they cannot support as many customers as Sky.

Boohoo!!! And I want my staff discount!!!!!

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Yep - but does that make my opinion invalid?

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Of course it doesn't make your opinion invalid. But it does make your vote invalid. The poll is about leaving or staying. If you arn't with NTL you can't leave or stay. That's like giving 100 Sky Customers this Poll saying now vote, then saying 100% of people will leave NTL.

Of course no one will stop you from making a vote on here, but that just means the figures even though are in NTLs favour on this vote, in reality are even more strongly in NTLs favour.

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I am quite capable of putting myself in the position that is posed in the poll.

Many surveys ask you questions about hypothetical situations - I see this no differently. If I was in the position of having Ntl and being happy, then Sky pulled their channels I'd switch. No different to if I was currently was in the position.

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go to DIGITAL SPY . YOU WILL SEE THERE SKY TV ANS BANNED IT SAY YOU ONLY GET DIGITAL IS SKY,

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ANY NEED TO SHOUT?

And what?:confused:

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You wouldn't get asked about a hypothetical poll in this situation. And if you were asked by a surveyor, if you said you you were currently with Sky, they wouldn't carry on asking you questions.

I can't argue with you about whether you can or can't, you quite obviously can, the figures just won't show a true representation of the people who will be leaving (if such a small poll could be seen as being representitive).

Sky ought to worry though, if they remove Sky channels from NTL, i'm going to leave Sky and sign up with NTL ;)

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Very good, but I'm stopping with Virgin Media 4 the time being. I want to see if Richard and gang live up to their promise. they say it's going to be brill! Watch this space!

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I have a V+HD cable receiver & Sky HD thomson receiver i find that the pic qulity on SD channels and BBC HD is much better on the Sky HD satellite receiver than via cable,

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If I could get Sky, I would. I had Sky analogue, and when we tried to upgrade the Sly installer refused for some reason.

When I had Sky analogue, signal wasn't brilliant unless the weather was. Is Sky digital just as bad?

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In very windy weather like a few weeks ago, or in snow it does affect it occasionally.

I'm with Sky now, but hate Murdoch and all he stands for, so if I had a choice I'd go with Virgin*. I like Richard Branson.

*Only if we could have the TV Drive though. I think losing Sky+ with no like for like replacement would be good grounds for divorce as far as hubby is concerned... :erm:

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I think i voted when i shouldn't have too.... i already have sky digital for my telly, and ntl for my phone and BB, but i voted to stay:shrug:

If i was on ntl telly i wouldn't switch to sky just for the sky channels, any decent shows they might have are usually bought by channel 4 or someone anyway.

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Actually, your poll is missing an option.

3. Cancel sub and revert to Freeview.

Which is what I would do as I do not watch a great lot of stuff except sky1. and I'm damned if I'll pay anything to Murdoch if he uses such low tactics.

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You're never going to get that sort of info from a poll on here - people that come here have either been ****ed off by Ntl or love them (to the point they spend their time posting "1 day till they become Virgin - ohh I'm going to wet myself I'm so excited.":rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

If my voting in the poll offends you that much ask a mod to remove it. It's only an internet discussion after all. :dozey: :rolleyes:

As for a surveys - I've been asked about brands changing their image or altering themselves in some way when I never buy the product - that's the idea of surveys/polls - to get peoples opinions.

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Shouldn't worry about it P, mass hysteria round here at the moment. :/

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If you can't stand some people being generally enthusiastic about the changes which will be happening tomorrow Shaun - then perhaps it isn't a wise idea to come into these threads and view them - I'd also appreciate it if you wouldn't use foul language regardless if the swear filter kicks in. Thank you.

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Your voting in the poll doesn't offend me and i think you saying that is a bit childish, i was only stating that my own personal opinion is people who are with Sky and not NTL, who vote, distort the poll.

I'm not telling anyone they can't vote. :rolleyes:

As for getting excited by it, those who want to get excited by it are more than welcome, i don't see why you have to insult them. :rolleyes:

I'm personally interested by all progressions in technology, services, gaming and anything of the such, and i don't think it's sad to be interested. :rolleyes:

As a disclaimer, i did say after saying "a representitive poll" that a small number can't be seen as representitive. Stats are my living so don't try to teach me how to suck eggs.

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I can cope with people being enthusiastic and I am genuinely interested in the outcome of this re-brand - but it's rather hard to keep up with the thread when there is a core group of people that post the same thing every day. That's not excitement that's just plain sillyness and detracts from what other posters are trying to say. It's not great to have to wade through the rubbish to get to the interesting posts.:disturbd:

Perhaps your right, maybe it's more hard work than it's worth.:(

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If sky pulled their channels, would virgin pull the uk-TV channels from sky? i know some people that only get sky for the UKTV channels

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Given they've apparently just had that revenue stream stripped down by 75% probably.

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Well seeing as the poll doesn't actually have a question to it we'll never know what the point of it was. Personally with a statement like "SKY VS Virgin Media" I was assuming* it was a light hearted look at what people would do if they were in the position of having Ntl and then having to decide "SKY VS Virgin Media" to keep the channels they want.:erm:

Perhaps I should have known it was a serious poll for only those that currently have Ntl - how I should have known this is beyond me at the moment but I'm sure my feeble brain will catch on at some point. :(

No you're just saying you think they shouldn't - and with the figures in the results, does it matter?

Again, excitement is one thing, but post the same thing day after day makes it really hard to get to the point of the non-repetitive posts.:(

Snap - do you honestly think I'm here to berate anyone - again some posters just make it hard to wade through:)

No matter how many you get to vote in this poll you'll never get a representative result - like I said up there:

"You're never going to get that sort of info from a poll on here - people that come here have either been annoyed by Ntl or love them"

Suck eggs - no, have a reasoned debate - well I try to.:disturbd:

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Sky gets better deal for Flextech channels



Info from The Airwaves

On the day Virgin Media launches it has emerged that Sky has hammered down the amount it pays for the Flextech channels as relations between the two continue to deteriorate.

It is understood that Flextech will only get around 10p/Sky subscriber under the new deal instead of the current 40p/subscriber resulting in Flextech loosing more than £25 million per year in revenue.

According to broadcastnow.co.uk, Sky said it was only prepared to pay for Living TV and Flexztech is understood to be considering its options which could include Trouble and Bravo being rolled into its free-to-air FTN channel on satellite but is unlikely to merge Challenge due to the money Flextech gets from interactive streams.

Negotiations between the two continue over the basic Sky channels with Sky threatining to pull its channels off cable if a deal cannot be agreed. However, Virgin has said that it wants a better deal for the premium Sky channels Sky Sports and Sky Movies saying that it overcharges customers for these services. Cable would manage without Sky Movies due to it offering hundereds of films on-demand but Sky Sports is a different proposition.

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I wonder if one would guess that the deal for Sky's channels is part of the discussions and it's likely that they are staying? A lot of assumptions i know!

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Hmm I don't even see why a name change would tickle the public mind into thinking of moving or not anyway...in a lot of cases all I've heard is 'who cares?'. (Apart from everyone here, obviously!)

I would like to have Virgin Media, but until that is actually -possible- if ever in my area, then I will always be with Sky.

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NTL Media without a doubt :)

Rock Steady 10MB and a GREAT VOD TV service ;)

Im a very happy chap!
All I would like now is 20MEG :D

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6343715.stm

Oh-oh... trouble brewing?

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Isn't freeview supposed to be free? If Ofcom allows this we know Murdoch is running this country!


Why?

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I'd stay with Virgin. It's not as if the loss means anything. The only show I'd miss is The Simpsons, and that's only new episodes.

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If only RB was looking at this thread. He could stop the Sky channels and Sky would lose out big time. ;)

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Well i want Skyone and SkySPorts News available so hopefully he doesnt do that

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We are more likely to get price reductions if Virgin do call Skys bluff and let go of their channels.

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Possibly, but don't forget the Government love murdoch..:nutter:.;)

personally I would not switch to sky if it was the last broadcaster in this country

Atd

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Given the amount of content being lined up for Virgin Central I wouldnt be too bothered if we did lose the sky channels. Virgin currently has Alliance Atlantis (distributor of shows such as CSI etc), Disney/Buena Vista and now HBO signed up for it. The only company missing for me is Fox but we'll never get that in a month of Mondays...

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How come?

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Part owned by Murdoch as far as I was aware?

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Again the only answer is to download what you want to watch from the net, if your like me there is not a lot of Sky1 series that are so important that I'd switch.

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Hi I'm new here. I have just phoned yesterday to get Virgin cable installed and it was fitted this morning. I am already a SKY subscriber (cancellation in progress) so there is no way I would go back if they pulled those channels. I don't think I have ever watched any of them other than Sky One on occasion. I hate Murdoch.

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i emailed sky the other day calling them a pack of greedy babies .............here`s their reply.

Thanks for taking the time to contact us about this.

I want to reassure you that our goal is that Sky One, Sky News and Sky's
other basic channels will continue to be available to Virgin Media
customers. In fact, we hope that Virgin Media will choose to carry some
additional Sky channels such as Artsworld and Sky Three in the future as
well.

At the moment, we're working towards a new agreement that will keep these
channels on air. We want to avoid any disruption but, ultimately, it is
Virgin Media's choice whether to continue to offer our channels.

We know that many cable TV customers enjoy watching Sky basic channels. We
appreciate their loyalty as viewers and we think it's right that they should
be informed about the situation. That's why we have been broadcasting some
information on our channels.

Thanks again for contacting us.

Margaret Tannock
Viewer Relations

best thing is the subject name of their email was "abusive complaint".

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Same as mine word for word.

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Was it?

I just can't get over people saying pay the price over in the "discount" thread but over here people want Virgin to pay less than the supplier wants. Double standards!:disturbd:

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No ! I just asked them why they were reducing the amount of money they paid for cable channels yet they want more for they`re channels. simplw question really.

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In fairness, we do not know what Sky are asking Virgin to pay. Bearing in mind the fact that Sky have recently paid hundreds of millions to stop NTL buying into ITV, is it not possible that Sky are trying to negotiate prices that would make Virgin uncompetitive?

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I'm sure all of us would like to know how it will work - the VIP pack has the immutable access sorted (movies & sports), presumably ???? but, the rest is still 'up for grabs', afaik ;)

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Isn't that how the free market economy works? Companies slog it out to make a profit and the consumer wind (supposedly).

I honestly think people on here do have doubled standards some times - they whine about discounts and haggling but then think Sky are the devil for having the gaul to charge what they like for their products. :disturbd:

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Because thats how business works? Maximising the revenue you receive while reducing your spend.

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They don't love him, they fear him, that's why he is allowed to run roughshod over the rules, couldn't agree more about switching though, I'd rather go without telly than put a penny in his pocket

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I'm with Virgin Media for the long haul, I've been a customer since it was Cable & Wireless & losing a couple of channels that I hardly ever watch isn't enough to make me quit, hell we've had so many channel changes over the years I don't even know if any of the ones I had with C&W are still showing.

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Sky are removing ALL their channels from Virgin Media (Sky Sports, Sky Movies, Sky One etc.) in summer 2007 so it looks like Sky will win the battle unless Virgin Media buy the World Cup Footie.

Plus Sky are putting Sky One, Sky Two, Sky Sports 1 and Sky Movies 1 ON Freeview so many people will quit Virgin Media, and join Freeview or Sky. (When Sky win the battle, they will remove all those channels from Freeview) This does mean that Sky's cost will go down about £5 and when Sky win the battle, they are planning to move their cost's down £10, meaning that Six Entertainment Mixes without Sports or Movies, will cost £11:D , and that will also win the battle against Talk Talk and BT, becuase phone is free and broadband mid pack costs £5, so altogether it will cost £16.:D

WHAT A BARGIN!!!

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Cable won't loose Sky Movies and Sky Sports as they are covered by the rate card and Sky would have to answer to the Office of Fair Trading.

Here's more information from 1996 http://www.oft.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/9...3/0/oft179.pdf

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Fancy producing the evidence for your wild statements and that means real checkable evidence otherwise your statements are worthless

If its one thing i have learnt on this forum is never take the word of a 1 post wonder.

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Aren't you assuming that every single Virgin subscriber actually wants the sports channels, I'm not alone in not being interested in the sports channels, but I still won't leave Virgin because of losing a few unimportant channels.

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The following is from Brand Republic

Sky urges Virgin Media to sign new deal.

BSkyB has challenged Virgin Media to sign a new deal to continue to carry its basic portfolio of channels across the cable network, which 'reflects the proposed new terms and considerable value of its basic channels'.

Sky said that without a new agreement, it is possible that Sky's basic channels could cease to be available to Virgin Media customers, which would be a major blow to the newly rebranded rival. The broadcaster has now begun to broadcast messages across its channels to urge cable viewers to encourage Virgin Media to reach a new agreement. Sky confirmed that "discussions are continuing between Sky and Virgin Media over a new agreement for distribution of Sky's basic channel portfolio to cable TV viewers". The broadcaster says it wants its channels to be available to cable television viewers and is offering more value to Virgin Media than ever before."

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I somehow feel $ky are getting worried now. I personally hope that Mr B makes them wish they never started this fight.

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Well at least most of you have a choice at changing to Sky, I cannot as our area does not have BT or Sky, only Virgin Media (Telewest).

I am a big fan of stargate and the new episodes are only available on Skyone.

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I am a Sky+ customer currently and I would LOVE to move to V+. Unfortunately I am planning to relocate in the next few months so it would make no sense to do so.

Sky disgusts me. I can't think of why anyone would feel any loyalty to that dishonest rabble of a company. The management are scared of Virgin. They are scared of Branson. They can feel that people trust Virgin 500x more than they trust Sky, and they damn well should. As an NTL customer for the last 5 years, I can see and feel the vast improvement in service and offering that has occurred in the last two quarters.

When Branson proved the dirty tricks of BA, he gave the compensation that BA paid out as a bonus to the Virgin Atlantic employees.

I wish Virgin Media all the success, and hope that they don't lose sight of their fundamentals of putting their employees first thus their employees putting the customers first.

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I think you'll find I don't whine about discounts. More the opposite infact, I tend to whine about people getting them.

---------- Post added at 12:20 ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 ----------

Your area cannot recieve Sky? Every area is theoretically capable of recieving sky. You only need a clear line of sight to the satellite.

The only reasons I can think of that you can't recieve sky are that there is some sort of physical obstruction to the signal (which can be a tree, or building in the line of sight) or your Landlord/Local Council/Resident's association does not allow the installation of dishes.

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I never really liked Virgin Media, but I am staying with Sky, and none of you have to be so mean to me, becuase Virgin Media accutly are going to have Sky Sports removed, and I am not saying everyone likes sport, I don't that much...

STOP BEING MEAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

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Who's being mean? I just said I don't care if Sky take their toys home with them, I have more than enough to watch with just the VirgiNTL channels.

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There not being removed and to quote Bill

Fancy producing the evidence for your wild statements and that means real checkable evidence otherwise your statements are worthless

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I have a feeling we will be waiting a long time for any evidence. ;)

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Come on produce the evidence. ?

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Go on this wikepida website: www.virginmedia.com and see that Sky has WAY more tv channels or I will help Sky WIN

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You do realise there are people who don't pay for the 101 extra Sky movie/sport/news channels & really don't care whether they vanish from the list? Sky can take every single one of their channels off the VirgiNTL list & it won't make the least difference to me, I'll still have more channels than I can easily watch in the 24hrs that make up any day. When I see the Virgin logo I know there's at least one person associated with the company that can be trusted 100%, that is something I can never say about Sky. If you can name a single Sky channel that I might actually miss then I'd be very surprised. But then I know the channels won't be missing if I ever choose to look at them because Sky know they can't afford to turn their backs on the cable providers.

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I am glad this post has come up and pleased to see the result of the poll is that the majority of people would stay with VM if Sky pulled the channels.

I do watch and enjoy Lost and would miss it, but I used to be a Sky customer and was treated very badly, so badly they have £12 of my money I just can't be bothered to go back and get.

I don't appreciate the tactics Sky have employed to try and get us to vote with Sky and in a way I wish they woud pull the channels and for VM, and of course us the customers, to stand firm.

VM is not going to be wondferul overnight, they may never be but at least they are trying, Sky are not trying or perhaps thats the point they are trying in the desperate sense! I hope VM have something to turn it back to Sky but the most powerful weapon they have is us, customers who stay.

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Still no evidence for your wild ranting. :rolleyes:

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Virgin Media for me i think. I live in N.Ireland so i get the RTE channel on cable and they run all the same stuff as sky like "LOST"

The say thing about this is that SKY need V/M and V/M need Sky. So i dont understand why they both dont work along side each other to give us a better service all round.

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I used to have sky movies and sports..My husband never watched the sports at home preferring to go to his local to watch it all with his mates..Still does.As for sky movies..well you got two premieres per month and there after you could watch it over and over and over for years.The same films came up that I could watch on cable channels for far less (eventually even if it was a year later than sky showed it) so in the end to save a considerable sum of money I stopped.

I have been able to watch an enormous choice on VOD on NTL for some considerable time of some reasonable films.I predict that with VM the choice will improve dramatically.
So if you take away the sports channels and the Movie channels Sky has very little extra to offer in comparison to NTL err sorry VM because most of what's available on sky can be watched elswhere eventually.So losing Sky 1 is no hassle because eventually Sky loses the right to show those shows such as 24 and Lost and they move to other channels.I can wait.;)

and frankly I can easily live without Sky's contribution to the world of Drama.The 'award winning' Dream Team for one...I'd love to know who gave that show any kind of award?

No Sky is very worried,because they have never,ever sunk to the level of belittling NTL on marketing ads before.Now they are attacking VM because they do think that VM is a serious rival.

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Very interesting.

I am looking at both at the moment, I am currently with NTL (£30 pcm for broadband, TV and phone). I am moving into a new house soon and have reading a lot about them both - on this forum and digital spy for sky. I really wanted SKY+ for obvious reasons and was going to go with them. Then the V+ service got announced and sounded too good to be true, especially with the dual tuners and HD thrown in. But I have read a lot of the same old problems that I experience now, customer service, slow repsonse from box to remote, EPG playing up all the time and ON DEMAND being prone to errors. I think I may just plump for SKY HD now, especially as they actually have HD channels and broadband is free with a wireless router also. I am still not 100% sure, but I feel they can offer me a better service

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Here is the latest on SKY VS Virgin Media

Virgin are locked in talks with Rupert Murdoch's BSkyB to renew a soon-to-expire deal for the satellite giant to supply it with Sky One.

Mr Wall said that barring any surprises, hit shows 24 and Lost would not go off-air mid-season and that talks were continuing.
Describing meetings so far, Mr Wall resorted to a boxing metaphor: "There have been some low blows but no-one went down like Audley Harrison. Both sides are negotiating in good faith."

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I'll stay. We currently get the Sky channels in the Family Pack as was, still haven't figured out exactly what's what yet in the New Order, and Sports almost solely for the football. The only Sky One offering we both watch regularly is 24, although I quite like Rescue Me. I'd include BG as well but I've only just got into this and am working my way slowly through DVDs anyway so won't complain there either.

So we're both reasonably happy to head off down to the pub for games we want, or we'll have a look at the the Setanta offering next season. As for 24 and Rescue Me I may find the urge to delve into alternative sources for the first time.

Okay. How exactly? Will they get a cup?:dozey:

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There was never any mention of sky sports being removed, it is a premium channel and has to be made available.

The channels in question are sky one, sky news and sky sports news, which are part of sky's basic channel line up.

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Although not totally representative, the poll on here is interesting. As the votes have risen, those planning to depart from VM has stayed pretty static, around the 15% mark.

If this is truly representative across VM's customer base, can they (Vrigin) really afford to lose 1/2 a million customers in one hit? Based on their own figures, this represents a turnover of £21.2 million PER MONTH loss.

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Having a "Who Cares" button might have been interesting, as in people are watching less TV these days, afaik.

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Interesting analysis there. I don't think vm could afford to lose that many. Perhaps vm will need to offer a sweetner to customers fast?

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I will be staying with VM Even if Sky 1 Goes

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BBC news 24 just stated that although talks between Sky and VM are technically continuing, things are not looking good as VM is complaining that Sky want TWICE the usual fee for keeping Sky1 etc....

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I still can't see Sky running the story about VM & Sky on SKY News.

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I guess they're going to be criticised whatever Sky News runs (or doesn't run).

If they did run the story the I expect people would be saying that they were using an impartial news channel's output to put forward their case against Virgin.

I think it's a responsible decision not to report it on Sky News, to maintain the channel's credibility.

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in all the years ive had cable i have never watched sky 2 or 3 only watch sky
1 as a last choice sky news now and again sky sports once or twice a day so whats to miss stick out at them virgin

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Am I the only person to see something good in this situation? VirgiNTL tells Sky to go take a flying leap & saves themselves a shed load of cash, they take the surplus cash that normally goes to Sky & use it to improve the stuff they continue to provide us.

Re: SKY VS Virgin Media
 

I'm still not going anywhere. Yes I will lose some programmes, but better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

The last thing I want to do is faff around cancelling one contract and signing up for 2-3 to replace it, and end up with less of a BB service than I'm getting now.... So - I'm not leaving.

On top of that - I figure jumping ship now doesn't necessarily put you in any better position even if what Sky is offering at the moment looks more tempting - do you really think they won't have teething problems with the stuff they're proposing to launch? Let the dust settle and see what each one has to offer a few months down the line, then make a decision if a switch (either direction) is best for your needs. Give them both time to stop their posturing and start showing all their cards to the customers.