S.M.A.R.T Error on startup and BSOD Problems
 

Hey all.

About last week I formatted to try to solve some problems I was having with Windows Xp, I ran the boot from cd, deleted the partition and formatted to Windows Xp Pro Sp2.

The install was clean with no flaws, however now whenever I reboot I get told their is a S.M.A.R.T error *see screenshot*

This is annoying, I have run a full scandisk at startup with a scan for bad sectors etc included, and not a single error has been found.

additionally I game allot on Battlefield 2142, and have noticed about 6 BSOD's with varying errors.

So far I rolled back my drivers * using drivercleaner* to the default Msi ones which come with my card, however tonight I got yet another one while in BF2142, yet I don't get them with my others games ( fs2004, HL2 and Halo and STBC )

Some help and advce would be handy here as it is driving me up the wall and I dont have money to spend on this computer right now as I am working on this house and getting a shower fitted.

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Update:

Right I removed power from the Akasa Harddrive cooler which is attached to my harddrive of course.

This has removed the SMART error on bootup.

I need to check about the BSOD problem, and I have just updated all drivers to latest but my display is 91.31WHQL, from Filehippo since the latest ones are known to cause problems.

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any bad disk warnings in ev?

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Their was only a report of the BSOD.

Funny this perhaps I have now learned a lesson.

I installed a 120MM fan under my 7900GT and a HD cooler under my HD to "help" cool the computer.

I removed both and the BSOD's and the HD error have gone, computer speed is back up.

I cannot explain it but heh I ain't complaining :D

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power drain maybe you psu isnt up to the job

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Well since I have removed the fan and unplugged the fans on the HD cooler, no more BSOD's when in game.

And no more SMART error on bootup, strange but if my pc is happier like this then who am I to complain?

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I agree.

Why did you buy a Western Digital...? I'd normally say Maxtor but mine is louuuud, maybe it's just that the rest of the PC is virtually silent. As for the Samsung and the Hitachi I don't notice them.

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I bought the WD 250GB sata2 16mb 8.4ms, on recommendation from a friend of mine on another forum who has one similar.

Its alot happier now I unplugged the akasa HD cooler. While I agree possibly the psu could be to blame I wonder if I was causing a hot spot which was causing it to error out.

All I know is since I disabled the 120mm fan and the HD cooler I have zero problems anymore.

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Okay had another BSOD today same .dll as the bsod shotted above, also I have had a total lock out, my HD literally shutdown on me, nothing in event viewer.

I am leaning towards my psu on it's way out so with about £100 what is the best psu about? I am hoping for a modular psu to save on cable clutter.

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*hides* no I have had WDs for aaages and I can't fault them.

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Ive had hard drives fail from all makers .

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Exactly :) - Especially IBM/Hitachi might I add? :)

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well no Maxtors but thats mainly cuz a lot of my older hard drives were diamond max 9's and 10's and the 9s have died of old age lol mind you one died then 2 weeks later another died must have been lonely ;).
IMO they are all pretty even in how long they last or how they can fail early

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Do you need anything specific powered? SATA drives etc.

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hahhh i knew one day you paranoia about keeping stuff cool (and not required) would cause someone problems

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If you want modular, I'd go for the Hiper Type-R 580W, I brought one last year to replace duff psu, it is quiet, can choose which cables to use, SLI ready, 20 and 24 pin compatible, includes loads of cables, SATA, etc.

Comes in 4 colours, cost abot £60-65, definitley the best purchase I made last year, plus it comes in a cool case, which I now use as a small toolbox.

http://www.hipergroup.com/English/pr...hpu-4k580.html

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Im running a hiper modular type r also

Check what temp your gfx is running at did it crash playing BF2 again?

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I like it, always have enough power and runs very stable since the upgrade. I also noticed it booted faster too.

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When I got back to Windows my gfx was on 51c, tickover right now after running all night as I don't shut it down is 44c on the graphics.

I like the look of that PSU now to find a nice seller in the UK :D and the price is nice :D

As for what needs powering.

My specs these days are;

Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe
AMD X2 4600
1GB DDR400
WD 250GB SATA2
MSi Nvidia 7900GT
Onboard Sound
About 10 Usb Ports ( alot in use for webcam, headset mouse etc )
And my well used dvdrw drive.

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what we looking at dont make us read ;)

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Read it, it's a forum about crap PSUs...

This comment is especially funny...

Cprossu 12-19-2005 12:41 AM Re: Unsafe PSUs

I would like to see something like that,
as of now I know of a shop where they have the psu's actually out of the boxes, and whenever I am there looking at PSU's, people and salesmen around me get really confused and nervous when they see me looking through a crack in the PSU at some cockeyed angle with a flashlight pointed in the fan grill and scream "Damn this POS had fuhjjyo's in it!"

one time I was asked by a salesman "Can I help you with anything?"
I responded "I just want a PSU which doesn't explode"
Then he pointed me to some L&C's and Allied's
to which I exclaimed "THOSE BLOW UP!"
to which he told me "I've been running an L&C for a year, they are great supplies"
I commented "I hope you have good house insurance and a fire extinguisher if you have that plugged in when your away"

well 2 months later, that guy tracked me down in the store when I was buying some memory and told me that his L&C did blow up. (But then again, for Deer based psu's, confusious once say, "Deer PSU's which is used only explode if they should exist"

At this point I would like to comment that I knew the fellow responsible for drawing out the final production schematics for that PCB of deer psu's and that those cursed schematics exploded in a spectacular array of colors burning his house to the ground (but not hurting anyone too badly), but that is untrue, a lie, and would certainly make me feel better after replacing so many of those damn pieces of garbage.


whoops let my bad side escape for a moment back there- sorry! =)

:D

---------- Post added at 13:32 ---------- Previous post was at 13:28 ----------

and if you search the forum the Hiper type-r has the Fuhjjyu (sp) caps that they really hate (because the formula for the electrolyte was stolen by espionage, and they didn't include an anti-corrosive, so they, err, tend to leak...)
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...iper#post20792
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...iper#post20324

---------- Post added at 13:33 ---------- Previous post was at 13:32 ----------

and mine is the 500W version of this one
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...torm#post14938

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ANY PRODUCT has bad ones, their is nothing in existance which is perfect, their will be bad batches their will be with anything.

It's what warranties are for.

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You miss the point of those posts. Those caps are widely acknowledged as utter POS. As the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague says... Going back firmly and truly on topic, the fuhjyyo caps in the Hiper are in this category, because they used the stolen formula, and so are a total POS because they will corrode and leak causing the caps - and the PSU - to blow (over time).

I might open my PSU next time i'm in the PC and check the caps. Always a good idea to do.

yeah you will get bad batches in anything, but surely you'll accept if they're using caps that inherently corrode, because the anti-corrosive isn't included, then you're way way more likely to get one blow - or under watt - or anything. These PSU faults can be shown in anything.

The FSP supplies seem to get a good report though, wherever you look. Mine's been fine (touch chipwood) so far, is very stable, and accurate too.

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Okay NFFC you do make a good point, what PSU *modular only please* would you recommend.

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Why the urgent need to go modular - mine isn't, I just tie the ones I don't need out of the way.

I would consider it to be the lesser of two evils if the other was crap caps.

The FSP ones, as I said, seem to have a good reputation. Have a look on that badcaps forum and see what you think...

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Modular so I can sort out the wires with more precision.

So whats a good modular one so I dont have to read a forum?

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Heh, I have the 400x and it runs almost 24/7

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I think then that it boils down to all psu's have bad batches...and even if the one I've my eye on does go bang I'll keep this one for backup and keep the receipt should it bork so I can return it.

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Right twice in the past 48hours i've heard my HD loose power, just winds down, then a BSOD comes up, stupid me didn't screenshot it though, and Event Viewer shows nothing.

I game hard on this computer and I've no artifacts nor random slowdown, just strange lockups.

Now I am leaning to this being the PSU unit but is these problems a indicator of another problem?

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It's probably the PSU, if it can't deliver the required power, it will just go weird.

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Well I am going with the one linked here OR

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uct_uid=102953

Which comes on recommendation of a fellow gaming friend I know well.

This will either work or if not, I shall keep running this pc and work on a AM2 Socket AMD, which I've been toying with building for a while now.

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Looks good to me, the OCZ ones are rebadged FSPs and seem to be well regarded on BadCaps.