Msi 7600gs
 

Thinking about getting this. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119460

Main benefit to me is the fact it would be a return to a passively cooled one - it's silent, and I like that. Damn fan on my gfx card (6600) is quite loud which is annoying. I have decent case cooling so it shouldn't be a big deal.

Any card has to be AGP because I don't fancy upgrading anything else, and passively cooled for the quiet PC thing!

Is this chip going to be an improvement on the 6600? Any better, passively cooled AGP alternatives for the same, or similar price? I'm not a heavy frame-obsessed gamer btw.

Budget is 100 but could stretch to 125, would rather keep it Nvidia though.

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Could you not just fit a different cooler to your existing card? Bound to be cheaper than replacing it for something that realistically isn't that much of a change.

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It's a 6600 AGP. Fitting a Zalman to it is unfeasible, there isn't a quiet solution to it unless anyone can find it. Looked at a few Zalmans a while back and you have to do weird things with the cooler off the end of the card and stuff.

To be fair, the noise, or lack of it, would be the main pull towards the change as opposed to any increased gain...

How much difference in performance is there? You'd imagine looking at the numbers a 6600-7600 would be at least a slight difference, plus this board has twice as much RAM...

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This is crying out for the x1950 pro with one of them super cooler all in one silent jobbies strapped to it

this cooler http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-035-TR

just saw the prefer nvidia in which case I wont make a recommendation :)

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'supercooler' ??

I wait to see what I get ;)

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X1950 is ATI though?

How many PCIs does that cooler take? I have 5 and they're full. Apart from the one by the AGP slot which has to be empty.

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it was just my term ive seen bigger than the one in my link but cant find it

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yeah saw that I wouldnt recommend the GS version of the 7600 only the GT models are any good

EDIT I notice the graphics memory is only ddr II also on the GS I would steer clear of this card

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Hmm and all the 1950s are PCI-E as well.

Just been looking on the nvidia site... the 7600 seems to do more per clock cycle than the good 6600s anyway. This 6600's only a LE anyway so that's basic.

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errrr not all of em are pci e ;)

The GS is over priced also

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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-046-GW this would be a much better card but you will need to address the cooling which you should be able to if you hunt

also this card http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-088-LT

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And the difference between a GS and a GT is what? Not really a gfx expert. If it was clock speed, I'd merely O/C it.

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Both those GTs are more - though the cards themselves are within the 125, they're not when you factor in the new cooling.

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clock speed ram speed pipelines better ram on the GT

I cant recommend the 7600GS full stop of course its your choice.

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And in real terms, how much of a difference would that be considering I have PC3200 DDR system RAM on a single core socket 754?

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well its the difference between buying a decent card or a crap one for 100 quid. If your not overly bothered buy the GS if you are ;)

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It's got to be better than the 6600LE though, surely? Even negating the noise.

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please dont draw me into having to post anything positive about it yeah it will be better than the 6600 but not 100 quids worth

as ive posted in the past budgets are meant to be broken I always treat the first figure as a giggle the second is getting closer to realistic then the 3rd is absolute max lol .I would offer the same advice to anyone and as it will be the last legs of this machine make it a worthwhile upgrade.
You could find a passive cooler for what you have and save 80 or 90 quid towards something later,

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find us a decent silent cooler for an AGP 6600 then. (I somehow think we've been here before).

The budget can realistically stretch to 100 and that's about it.

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few here may fit the bill http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/nvidia-vga

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This is the problem i'm up against...
http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/pro...idia-vga/zm80d
* nVidia AGP 6600LE and 6600GT owners - Please note that the ZM80D-HP is not compatible with this graphics card. The reason for the incompatibility is because the GPU has been rotated 45° in order to incorporate the HSI chip. Please consider the VF700 and check the compatibility links. This does not affect the PCI-E version of the 6600LE or the 6600GT because that card does not include a HSI chip.

and then not only is the VF700 not silent, but you have this too...
http://www.zalman.co.kr/product/cool...600GT_eng.html
2. Disadvantages
1) After the VF700 is installed on a GeForce 6600 GT AGP, the cooler's FHS sticks out of the circuit board by about 30mm. This may cause interference with the system case and/or other components. https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/01/12.jpg 2) Because the GeForce 6600 GT AGP's chipset is located towards the top area of the board unlike the PCIe version, installation of the cooler may be structurally unstable.
Even the V1's not compatible...
High-Speed Interconnect bridge chip not covered in cooling solution

All the others have fans which will get noisy and/or need cleaning...

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what about this one http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/pro...a-vga/tr-hr-03

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Still doesn't cover the HSI on the AGP 6600s. That's what I mean... this card is weird.