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The Jackal 22-11-2006 20:54

super pi database
 
Anyone know of a place to look for cpu's running super pi at stock ?

I got 29s 1M for an E6400@stock seems a little off to me

Overall must say the machine has benched 'OK' nothing great as expected.

Windows run better but still have that little clunk clink lag you get when you open windows dont get that with linux.

Hopefully after benching a bit more with windows I'll get back to the real world and linux.... It just disrespectful to all this wonderful hardware to be spoiling it by running windows

zing_deleted 22-11-2006 20:56

Re: super pi database
 
what ram you using? remember ddrII has very poor latency

The Jackal 22-11-2006 21:04

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34164554)
what ram you using? remember ddrII has very poor latency

ddr : latency is good I tested with sis sandra but bandwidth is poor as expected

Here are some comparable super pi results but they are from machine that are o/c'd

http://overclockers.at/cpudb.php?783...c&pagenumber=2

zing_deleted 22-11-2006 21:14

Re: super pi database
 
of course it is your on the asrock how quickly I forget ;) I score 21 secs at stock

The Jackal 22-11-2006 21:18

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34164571)
of course it is your on the asrock how quickly I forget ;) I score 21 secs at stock

Looks like an E6400@stock is around 28-29s

What process and speed are you on mate ?

zing_deleted 22-11-2006 21:21

Re: super pi database
 
just back at stock I want to sell this board and chip in the new and buy a quadro ;)(no one else will buy me one sobsob lol process?

The Jackal 22-11-2006 21:24

Re: super pi database
 
what processor and what speed is it running at ?

DocDutch 22-11-2006 21:25

Re: super pi database
 
am jealous of you 2... I just tried the superpi and ended up with 42s on 1m. :(

zing_deleted 22-11-2006 21:26

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r (Post 34164585)
what processor and what speed is it running at ?


lol ok E6600 at stock it was scoring 17 at 3 gig but ive clocked it down cuz I wanna sell it and not strain it

The Jackal 22-11-2006 21:28

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34164586)
am jealous of you 2... I just tried the superpi and ended up with 42s on 1m. :(

LOL nothing to be jealous of : I have yet to tune the system :D
I just ran super-pi on my laptop 900mhz pentium-m and got 1min 50sec which is not bad at all.

DocDutch 22-11-2006 21:32

Re: super pi database
 
yeah but how old is that lappy.....and its a lappy ;)

mine is a full sized desktop (okay 3 years old now) so yeah I think i can still be proud of only 42 secs :D

The Jackal 22-11-2006 21:40

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34164597)
yeah but how old is that lappy.....and its a lappy ;)

mine is a full sized desktop (okay 3 years old now) so yeah I think i can still be proud of only 42 secs :D

Yeh its a lappy running linux and it too has had it's 3rd birthday
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/...9116235,00.htm

Historically pentium-m's are kinda special : I was gobsmacked by it's performance running seti when I got it.

The intel core 2 duo has roots set from this processor

Pentium-m > core duo > core 2 duo


still think that 21s vs 29s is way too big a gap time to trash windows :)

alferret 22-11-2006 22:07

Re: super pi database
 
Here's my scores.
Super PI

Stock 6600 = 20sec

@ 2800 (small o\c) 18sec (CPU @ 1.35v - Mem @ 1.8v)

@ 2880 = 17sec

The Jackal 22-11-2006 22:14

Re: super pi database
 
grrrrrr must be a big difference that cache is making to super pi results....

As I have seen others running E6400@stock getting around thge same as me.

I knew I shouldn't have scimped n saved pah : Then again I do now have a good system

Just installed linux and the super pi result was just as per windows

Druchii 22-11-2006 22:15

Re: super pi database
 
19.7secs @ 3Ghz.

Something tells me that's the cache hit, or the high latency of my CAS5 Ram.

E6300 btw.

peanut 22-11-2006 22:19

Re: super pi database
 
17 secs on a e6700 2gig of OCZ 900mhz mem. Stock speeds

alferret 22-11-2006 22:28

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34164649)
19.7secs @ 3Ghz.

Something tells me that's the cache hit, or the high latency of my CAS5 Ram.

E6300 btw.


I would say a cache hit as the mem i got is crap compared to what most others run.

Admin has just mentioned to me that I need to apply for more funding to get some quality mem to get a bit more out of this beast.

Thing is im also having to save for something else (that dont need overclocking) so funds are very limited at the mo.

Druchii 22-11-2006 22:31

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alferret (Post 34164665)
I would say a cache hit as the mem i got is crap compared to what most others run.

Admin has just mentioned to me that I need to apply for more funding to get some quality mem to get a bit more out of this beast.

Thing is im also having to save for something else (that dont need overclocking) so funds are very limited at the mo.

It will be as the memory bandwidth is nowhere near that of the equivalent (sorry, nearest) AMD processor. That should rule it out to begin with.

The Jackal 22-11-2006 22:32

Re: super pi database
 
Thanks all to those who contributed this thread.

Think I'll be binning this mobo at the earlier available opportunity :)

the E6400 is supposed to be a good clocker

Druchii 22-11-2006 22:33

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r (Post 34164668)
Thanks all to those who contributed this thread.

Think I'll be binning this mobo at the earlier available opportunity :)

the E6400 is supposed to be a good clocker

She'll hit 3Ghz easily ;)

The Jackal 22-11-2006 22:43

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34164669)
She'll hit 3Ghz easily ;)

Yup easily but not on this board she wont :)

Just upped the FSB and got 27.5s I'll try the limit which is a lousy 295Mhz

Should I voltage mod my new equipment already ? tempting but I aint got a cooler

Druchii 22-11-2006 22:44

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r (Post 34164676)
Yup easily but not on this board she wont :)

Just upped the FSB and got 27.5s I'll try the limit which is a lousy 195Mhz

Should I voltage mod my new equipment already ? tempting but I aint got a cooler

No volt mods should be needed.

The Jackal 22-11-2006 22:47

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34164677)
No volt mods should be needed.

LOL This IS the Asrock we're talking about there's no vcore modification within the BIOS unless of course the latest BIOS has it

Skatoony 23-11-2006 20:01

Re: super pi database
 
34s on an AMD FX-55 ClawHammer @ stock speeds (which is 2.6GHZ). Won't try overclocking until I get a new motherboard.

The Jackal 23-11-2006 20:10

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte (Post 34165345)
34s on an AMD FX-55 ClawHammer @ stock speeds (which is 2.6GHZ). Won't try overclocking until I get a new motherboard.

Since u're a linux boy how are u running super pi ? Old Commandline version or under wine ?

Skatoony 23-11-2006 20:16

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r (Post 34165356)
Since u're a linux boy how are u running super pi ? Old Commandline version or under wine ?

Actually this is on Windows for gaming.

The Jackal 23-11-2006 20:19

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte (Post 34165364)
Actually this is on Windows for gaming.

Traitor : Reps added : LOL

Just kidding dont blame u btw

Druchii 23-11-2006 20:28

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte (Post 34165345)
34s on an AMD FX-55 ClawHammer @ stock speeds (which is 2.6GHZ). Won't try overclocking until I get a new motherboard.

Proper memory controllers ftw! Not bad at all =)

TheBlueRaja 23-11-2006 21:49

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r (Post 34164648)
grrrrrr must be a big difference that cache is making to super pi results....

As I have seen others running E6400@stock getting around thge same as me.

I knew I shouldn't have scimped n saved pah : Then again I do now have a good system

Just installed linux and the super pi result was just as per windows

Dude, why didnt you take your own advice?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r (Post 34163394)
I think so if you're gonna being doing some heavy encoding / CAD etc AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA BE USING THAT PIECE OF JUNK CALLED WINDOWS

BTW E6600 was my first choice many months back


Druchii 23-11-2006 21:53

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34165428)
Dude, why didnt you take your own advice?

The price. His financial controller seems to hate him buying things =P

Aragorn 23-11-2006 23:25

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte (Post 34165345)
34s on an AMD FX-55 ClawHammer @ stock speeds (which is 2.6GHZ). Won't try overclocking until I get a new motherboard.

My new work laptop does 35s - a 1.8Ghz Core Duo (not C2D) :)

The Jackal 24-11-2006 00:09

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn (Post 34165516)
My new work laptop does 35s - a 1.8Ghz Core Duo (not C2D) :)

Almost the same thing - C2D is heavily worked Core Duo : Nice chip

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34165428)
Dude, why didnt you take your own advice?

LOL the cash besides as Druchii says missus is a factor but then again she has no control of my finances - as long as the bills are being paid she dont give a toss. :) Being unemployed for a year also plays a factor - It always happens to me when I'm on my tod I end up spending on hardware.... When I'm working I just dont get the time to play ! Funny world.

Anyway having looked around seems like 26s is the time for a stocked E6400 I'm lagging due to the cr*p board but

Nonetheless getting one of those sexy new boards the E6400 due to it's multiplier will OC very well on air.

zing_deleted 24-11-2006 09:06

Re: super pi database
 
I always say buy the products where the balance is price/perfromance the c2d balance point is the E6600 also its the first proper Conroe and the lesser chips are different and always spend as much as you physically can afford

The Jackal 24-11-2006 11:34

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34165634)
I always say buy the products where the balance is price/perfromance the c2d balance point is the E6600 also its the first proper Conroe and the lesser chips are different and always spend as much as you physically can afford

Hmmmm

E6400 £144 mobo £36 ram re-use old DDR 1gig = £170

E6600 £210 mobo £50ish lets just get a cheap 1 £100 for 1gig of DDR2 = £360

Thats a hella lot of difference.

zing_deleted 24-11-2006 11:46

Re: super pi database
 
whats stopping you putting the E6600 in the cheap board? its also a true conroe which the lower chips are not. so the difference is 66 quid

The Jackal 24-11-2006 11:57

Re: super pi database
 
LOL Good point ZIng !

But I thought I'd use the money to buy a pair of SATA drives and so the overall system performance is enhanced

NoKnowledge 24-11-2006 12:06

Re: super pi database
 
Ther are some people on another computer forum that do Super-Pi @ stock and O/C

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/forum...TOPIC_ID=18050

keithwalton 24-11-2006 12:15

Re: super pi database
 
I dont know what my chip does at stock speeds because quite frankly its never run at stock for more than a few minutes when i update the bios!

However at 3.7GHz my e6700 crunchs 1m super pi in 13 seconds.

The conroe does so well because of its shared 4meg caches, the allendales with there 2meg cache do suffer.

However they fare much better than athlon's which at best have only ever had 1meg of cache avaliable per core (the c2d has a unified cache both cores see the same cache) and currently most that are on sale only have 1/2meg of cache!

The Jackal 24-11-2006 12:24

Re: super pi database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34165708)
Ther are some people on another computer forum that do Super-Pi @ stock and O/C

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/forum...TOPIC_ID=18050

Nice thread again confirming that I should be in the 26s arena... I will be tuning once I have the time.

Anyway at least I beat this guy :D

47. bfbf - Pentium MMX 166MHz @ Stock - Stock Fan - 2211.014s

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keithwalton (Post 34165709)
I dont know what my chip does at stock speeds because quite frankly its never run at stock for more than a few minutes when i update the bios!

However at 3.7GHz my e6700 crunchs 1m super pi in 13 seconds.

The conroe does so well because of its shared 4meg caches, the allendales with there 2meg cache do suffer.

However they fare much better than athlon's which at best have only ever had 1meg of cache avaliable per core (the c2d has a unified cache both cores see the same cache) and currently most that are on sale only have 1/2meg of cache!

Spot on Keith.

Zing really there is no architectural difference between the Allendale and Conroe albeit the cache and hence in this test the E6400 suffers... All my other benches put the E6400 10% down on the conroe except for the ones where cache is heavily used.

Oh well I'm still happy beats playing with an Athlon :)
I even missed the whole Athlon64 upgrade thing as I saw it as only marginal performance gain over an overclocked XP-M but the gap widens with the C2D platform to ~100+% gain hence my upgrade :D

keithwalton 24-11-2006 13:13

Re: super pi database
 
Current Allendales are infact failed conroe's with 2megs of the cache failed. Unfortunutly you cant unlock the cache!

This does give the die a higher surface area / power output than the conroe's which is why they tend to overclock abit further.

There will be true 2 meg allendales coming soon which will be cheaper chips and probably end up being the new celerons.

When the core 2 originally came out and they had engineering samples of chips, several sites did comparisons between 2 and 4 meg chips to find where the cache mattered, and superpi was one of those cases.

Edit - Here is one of those reviews for where cache matters, http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2795&p=4

bigsinky 20-09-2011 19:02

Re: super pi database
 
thought i would resurrect this old thread rather than start a new one.

current i3 @ 4.4GHz superpi 1M @ 10 seconds

any other latest times with new kit?


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