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tucker61

19-11-2006 09:37

10 MB for All in December

Are NTL still going ahead with the 10 MB plan and charging for the amount you actually download ?

If so any dates available ?

Zee	19-11-2006 09:40

Re: 10 MB for All in December

This is what rumours are floating about...

2Mb > 4Mb/5Mb
4Mb > 10Mb + 512K upload
10Mb > 20Mb + 1Mb upload
New 50Mb service

All this is happening anytime between December & Feb

Carth

19-11-2006 10:49

Re: 10 MB for All in December

And are there any rumours about instant upgrades of modems that are presently incapable of the new speeds ?

fireman328

19-11-2006 11:02

Re: 10 MB for All in December

What will happen to the people like me trapped on 1 meg by a PACE box ?

zing_deleted

19-11-2006 11:11

Re: 10 MB for All in December

you will go "hello Mr NTL I want to cancel my subscription to all your services because I feel im being let down by the speed on the dated pace box"
"ok Mr Fireman ill put you through to retentions"
"hello MR Fireman is there anyway we can keep you"
"yes give me a modem and a faster speed oh and throw in a discount and ill stay"
"ok MR Fireman we can do that have a nice day"

Well I hope anyway lol lol

SnoopZ

19-11-2006 11:13

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman328 (Post 34161693)

What will happen to the people like me trapped on 1 meg by a PACE box ?

I think you should of phoned up to get that replaced ages ago and get a modem installed. If they try and charge you for it, say you want to cancel your service as you're not receiving what your paying for. More often than not you will then get a free modem upgrade. :)

[edit]

Zingle you're to damn fast mate! ;)

zing_deleted

19-11-2006 11:14

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34161701)

Beat ya and I made mine funny (well maybe) ;)

dranny69

19-11-2006 11:56

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 34161654)

This is what rumours are floating about...

2Mb > 4Mb/5Mb
4Mb > 10Mb + 512K upload
10Mb > 20Mb + 1Mb upload
New 50Mb service

All this is happening anytime between December & Feb

:erm: sorry to seem a bit dim :dozey: but are you saying that if your on 2 meg you get a free upgrade to 4 and if your on 4 you get 10 meg etc etc....???

SnoopZ

19-11-2006 11:59

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by dranny69 (Post 34161730)

:erm: sorry to seem a bit dim :dozey: but are you saying that if your on 2 meg you get a free upgrade to 4 and if your on 4 you get 10 meg etc etc....???

That's the rumour.

dranny69

19-11-2006 12:03

Re: 10 MB for All in December

that would be oh so sweet. where`s the rumour come from???

Bill C

19-11-2006 12:09

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by dranny69 (Post 34161735)

that would be oh so sweet. where`s the rumour come from???

Plucked out of the box marked NTL rumour of the day :LOL:

SnoopZ

19-11-2006 12:10

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34161739)

Plucked out of the box marked NTL rumour of the day :LOL:

lol :D

Sherlock614

19-11-2006 14:40

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Lets just cross everything and hope it comes true :)

Locky

19-11-2006 14:55

Re: 10 MB for All in December

i hope the top ter (currently 10 meg) does not change price at all and the others going to the 10 meg i hope the caps are small...

Martyn H

19-11-2006 19:33

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I'd rather stay on my alleged 4Mb speed but pay less.

jonifen

19-11-2006 20:09

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martyn H (Post 34162082)

I'd rather stay on my alleged 4Mb speed but pay less.

I second that preference. Although it is "upto" 10Mb, so I'll probably still get 4Mb, its just branded differently :/

ikthius

19-11-2006 20:20

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonifen (Post 34162134)

I second that preference. Although it is "upto" 10Mb, so I'll probably still get 4Mb, its just branded differently :/

i third it

ik

SnoopZ

19-11-2006 20:22

Re: 10 MB for All in December

You should be able to downgrade to the lower tier then when/if 2mbit is upgraded to 4/5mbit. :)

Chrysalis

19-11-2006 21:02

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I can see all 3 tiers getting a speedboost but not 10mbit across the board.

Zee	19-11-2006 21:31

Re: 10 MB for All in December

From an NTL associate from another forum...

TheCrow

20-11-2006 21:22

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I can't believe everyone is so excited about a speed increase. Lets face it, the networks obviously cant handle the speeds it supposed to at the moment? How the hell will it cope with more!

AndrewJ

20-11-2006 22:20

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCrow (Post 34163066)

I can't believe everyone is so excited about a speed increase. Lets face it, the networks obviously cant handle the speeds it supposed to at the moment? How the hell will it cope with more!

Agreed more than 100%, the network is crippled right now, everyday entire areas are suffering outage and every day people including myself experience not only slower speeds as I can handle drop to 8mb but drops to about 1mb speeds with barely any upload, and yet NTL instead of buckling down and upgrading the network to handle these speeds, increase the speeds for the sake of being on TV with a high numbered speed for the PCworld type of computer owners who know only what they're told.

It is a joke that such a company can take the **** out of the customers as much as NTL are doing with this news on 10mb for all, the 20mb trials the 50mb rumors, the network barely handles it's current customers on 10mb, their custom service and tech departments and barely handle the customers they have, their network is crippled through all tiers, and they want to add more pressure?

I seriously take my hat off to the techincal guys on their servers :tu: the pressure they're likely under from the fat cats who are only interested in profit is unreal, no doubt NTL will do this increase after increase rake in a HUGE profit and then the top men will sell out and retire rich leaving a company of disgruntled customers and a forever damaged reputation.

If in my area I could get a decent broadband service without NTL I would do but I hate BT and I hate NTL, but I am with NTL now and I don't plan on changing but I just wished to state my view.

SnoopZ

20-11-2006 22:23

Re: 10 MB for All in December

All ok in Cambridge :)

AndrewJ

20-11-2006 22:24

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34163110)

All ok in Cambridge :)

Lucky you.

NEONKNIGHT

20-11-2006 22:26

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCrow (Post 34163066)

I can't believe everyone is so excited about a speed increase. Lets face it, the networks obviously cant handle the speeds it supposed to at the moment? How the hell will it cope with more!

:clap:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34163110)

All ok in Cambridge :)

Complete crap in Cheshire.

Sherlock614

20-11-2006 22:36

Re: 10 MB for All in December

It's been ok for me since i swapped proxies... :)

AndrewJ

20-11-2006 23:17

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherlock614 (Post 34163133)

It's been ok for me since i swapped proxies... :)

Until that one breaks yeah, why should be mess about with proxies when they spend millions on their coffee breaks.

SORT YOUR NETWORKS OUT NTL BEFORE UPGRADING THE SPEEDS ON THEM

DocDutch

21-11-2006 06:22

Re: 10 MB for All in December

oi Felinix I can read this from about 10 meters away :) lets hope NTL will find it :P

saying that I havent had any issues with my speeds :D

Dean Ashton

21-11-2006 12:48

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34163110)

All ok in Cambridge :)

I'm also in Cambridge, but have mixed experiences at the moment. I download some stuff (not much, maybe a couple of TV episodes a week) from Easynews.. and for the past 2 weeks I've noticed what I guess is the result of traffic shaping. Download speeds go to around 100KB/s from mid-afternoon until later in the evening (say, 3pm to 10pm-ish). And that's 100KB using 3 connections (via GetRight).. pretty severe shaping, I reckon.

Off work today, and speeds seem decent (~400KB/sec).. but based on what I'm getting, I can't see how a 10MB speed increase will benefit me.. :(

Dean

p.s. Is there a list somewhere that says what traffic shaping configurations are in effect? Sites, protocols, times etc?

RileyM

21-11-2006 13:28

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34163110)

All ok in Cambridge :)

Yeh, same here. I always see people saying they aren't getting the advertised speeds with ntl. But yet, i'm in Cambridge and always get the full speed i'm subscribed to (currently 4MB).

Cozzy

21-11-2006 13:34

Re: 10 MB for All in December

HI

on Telewest myself (10Mb) but dont see much point going upto 20Mb if they bring in the traffic management as they are now trialling (see post in Telewest Throttling)

what will be the point of higher speeds if its crippled by throttling ?

more speed is great but it = more restrictions = less freedom of choice = no point in having a higher speed as you cant do what you want with it

bad move ntl:Telewest / Virgin Media whatever you wish to be called but expect will be a few choice swear words before long .. lol

Cozzy

DerekRothwell

21-11-2006 17:04

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Seems there are a few on here want to download stuff before its actually been written.

I guess the speed freaks are looking for the same sort of computers and speeds they see on the Starship Enterprise.

AntiSilence

21-11-2006 17:07

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34161701)

I don't think Zing is human. I think he's a robot/cyborg or something. Look out for some signs like the words "I'll be back" at the bottom of his posts. :D

SnoopZ

21-11-2006 17:25

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiSilence (Post 34163623)

I don't think Zing is human. I think he's a robot/cyborg or something. Look out for some signs like the words "I'll be back" at the bottom of his posts. :D

Nikesh

22-11-2006 16:29

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I doubt everyone will get 10mb in December, there is no way their network can cope with it but I do think that the broadband speeds will get increased again once they become Virgin Media. I just wish they would increase the upload speeds! I hope they don't bring traffic management into it though. :td:

Nikesh

Bill C

22-11-2006 17:01

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikesh (Post 34164376)

I hope they don't bring traffic management into it though. :td:

Nikesh

They already have.

punky

22-11-2006 17:08

Re: 10 MB for All in December

In the OP, he/she/it mentioned pay as you download.

Does anyone know if the rumours include all tiers now or just certain ones or even any?

TheCrow

22-11-2006 18:27

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34164412)

They already have.

This i can back up 100% My traffic is shaped from 6pm onwards. If after 6pm i start up a torrent or limewire the traffic slows right down and i can barely manage 1mb download. But ntl state that normal traffic such as browsing, etc are not shaped. Well mine is! As soon as a torrent etc are started the internet is unusable, a waste of ime.

But if this is what it takes to make the internet run smoothly and fair for everybody then i must applaud them. Simply leave your torrents or whatever running at non peak hours. Simple.

But when i try just normal browsing and nothing else, and it is barely any quicker than dial up im mad. Why i waste ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 a month for dial up speeds i have no idea! Why do i waste ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 a month for them to not even care when some little ******* kid chucks a firework in the ubr because it has been bust open and left for two months? Simple! Because unfortunately even tho they are crap at times, 75% of the time they are better than other isps.

But planning on upping the sppeds is just mental!

Hang on a minute, my 1980 vauxhall nova is just about to fall apart, i know lets make it better and put a 4 litre chevy in it! Lets watch it properly fall apart!

wlmlb

22-11-2006 19:38

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Mine is OK at the moment.

Nikesh

22-11-2006 20:28

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34164412)

They already have.

Damn, well if its for the benefit of everyone, I suppose it's a good thing. :)

Nikesh

Bill C

22-11-2006 20:43

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikesh (Post 34164592)

Damn, well if its for the benefit of everyone, I suppose it's a good thing. :)

Nikesh

Fully agree

kizzu

22-11-2006 21:13

Re: 10 MB for All in December

im completely green about technical sides of broadband but thanks TheCrow now i understand why my torrents are slower than slow. I didnt know about such a brilliant invention as traffic shaping! thats why i was wondering why i had a massive download speeds when i was on 8mpbs homechoice ADSL few months ago, now i decided to join the great cable NTL and what i got? traffic shaping god.... whats ****ing me off is that traffic shaping shapes my life in wrong way haha. if i have 2 torrents on websites load like on dialup and im on 10mbps for 35 pounds. im considering using my ace - refund request hehe. do you know whether Be Broadband or Bulldog (because these two adsl are availble where I live) are any good?

mcmanic

22-11-2006 23:02

Re: 10 MB for All in December

IMHO anyone who pays top whack for fastest level of service is mad when they are being traffic shaped. Basically your paying for the privilege of having the best service available but being told you cannot use it to its full effect. This is why i downgraded to 4 meg months ago, may be slower, still effected by traffic shaping but at least i'm saving some cash. I think the more people that cotton on to this will follow suit and would rather pay less for a sub standerd service as there is and will be no incentive to pay top teir prices for such a shoddy service/traffic shaping

AndrewJ

22-11-2006 23:09

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmanic (Post 34164752)

The single reason I have 10mb right now, even though its slower then a dead donkey with no legs with a oncoming wind, is for the upload, I have two pc's going and I game on bf2142 and my partner users chat/msn and yahoo webcam with her friends so I need the upload.

If ntl did for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£24,99 4mb down 512k up I would downgrade the monent they was open tommorow.

ZrByte

23-11-2006 01:21

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCrow (Post 34164500)

Try limiting your upload in your P2P program to 90% of your total upload rate, should sort out that problem you are having as that has nothing to do with traffic shaping.

Rone	23-11-2006 10:18

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzu (Post 34164644)

I would sooner have no internet than be with Bulldog again, in fact while i was with them it pretty well was like having no internet.
Ok when it worked it was a good speed, but nearly 3 weeks total downtime over a 3 month period is hardly reliable.[ and that meant no phone either on their package].
If you ever think NTL is crap, just try some others,

sav112

23-11-2006 21:59

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Hope this is true, I host fm07 clan games over mine and its not too hot in glasgow at times!....

TheCrow

24-11-2006 00:05

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34164810)

Try limiting your upload in your P2P program to 90% of your total upload rate, should sort out that problem you are having as that has nothing to do with traffic shaping.

Yeah i have tried this allready mate and it didn't change anything! I even limited my upload to just 10kbps and it was still like browsing on dial up.

To be fair i can see why they trafic shape as if i was hogging all the bandwidth the rest of my street would be pretty ****ed off!

If there is anything i do want to download i'll just do it at non peak times. Its not that much of a hardship.

ZrByte

24-11-2006 00:20

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCrow (Post 34165586)

sounds like you may have some other type of connection issue or an area wide problem? Traffic shaping wouldnt effect web browsing, and if it did it wouldnt be dependant on wether you where using your p2p or not as it doesnt throttle your whole connection, just the ports and data types being used by your p2p.

disgruntled empl

24-11-2006 01:16

Re: 10 MB for All in December

i wouldnt gt your hopes up for 10mb for all. to the best of my knowledge, that idea was dead in the water months ago.

sav112

24-11-2006 16:24

Re: 10 MB for All in December

As with the other upgrades, there is always some truth even if very small on the grape vine!

I have faith in the others information, because its to easy to trace back who said what and if they were giving us usful info, if not who would give them a second again on here, i for one would not......

GeoffW

24-11-2006 19:17

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I seem to recall them promising 10Mb/ for all users by the end of the year. This may have changed as a result of Virgin, but why dont they have the gumption to say it's changed rather than hope everyone forgets about their previous promises?

pachelbel

24-11-2006 19:47

Re: 10 MB for All in December

NTL have to compete in the isp service world. The ordinary Joe public who has no knowledge of computers and broadband will go by what is advertised . NTL will therefore have to compete with the likes of BT who specify up to 8Mb. This means that 10Mb will surely be the bottom tier just to compete on the same level. The people who tend to respond to cableforum are not joe public and and tend to be technical in many instances. With the likes of Sky and Carphone Warehouse muscling in this sector NTL have no option but to raise their game and attract those that do not reply to this forum. 10Mb will be basic service with NTL sooner or later. I think much sooner than people think.

markknell

24-11-2006 19:54

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I can't wait for the 100 mbit service, it might work like the 10 mbit is supposed too. At the momment I may as well be on 2 mbit. A complete waste of money.

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pachelbel

24-11-2006 20:17

Re: 10 MB for All in December

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This is the norm i get throughout the day. However post 6pm browsing does seem to slow down as does p2p downloads even with the above results. Other members of the family on AOL using BT line also suffer speed issues after 6pm so this seems to be a general issue. Throttling seems to be the norm these days.

markknell

24-11-2006 20:24

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Yeah but I'm supposed to be on 10 mbit not 1 or 2 mbit. Even with peak time traffic should produce better results than 1200 kb/s.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pachelbel (Post 34166156)

pachelbel

24-11-2006 20:44

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Yeah but I'm supposed to be on 10 mbit not 1 or 2 mbit. Even with peak time traffic should produce better results than 1200 kb/s.

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I agree. I keep reading cableforum issues regarding speed issues but i can honestly say that my connection has been consistent since i joined NTL 18 months ago. The only problem i have is i should be on 2Meg after the 1Meg upgrade but ended up with 10Meg for which i now have a second account along with my 3 for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£30. Having spoke to CS i hope it has been rectified. All this does not help people with slow speeds and i can only hope that you resolve your poor service.

Zee	24-11-2006 21:04

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I'm happy with my 10Mbps connection at the moment :)

1st 512K took 391 ms = 1309.5 KB/sec, approx 10790 Kbps, 10.54 Mbps
2nd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
3rd 512K took 454 ms = 1127.8 KB/sec, approx 9293 Kbps, 9.08 Mbps
4th 512K took 421 ms = 1216.2 KB/sec, approx 10021 Kbps, 9.79 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9940 Kbps, 9.71 Mbps

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Phill70

24-11-2006 21:09

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Had a call from BT today offering upto 8mb, rang C/S and they put me onto 10mb for three months, free.
not sorted yet though
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SnoopZ

24-11-2006 23:11

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phill70 (Post 34166205)

Had a call from BT today offering upto 8mb, rang C/S and they put me onto 10mb for three months, free.
not sorted yet though
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Try powering off your modem for 30seconds then on again and let settle for 1 minute. Check your Operation Config at http://192.168.100.1/ login/password both root. If you're on 10mbit you should see Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000.

kar	25-11-2006 05:33

Re: 10 MB for All in December

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I'd just like my (supposed) 4M broadband. Right now I'm like on the original ISDN :(

updater

25-11-2006 08:20

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I have just got -
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Which is nice. :)
The guy from NTL phoned me at 8:30, to say my phone was working again. They promised 8am to 4pm, so that's what I call fast service. :tu:

Rick

OL1V3R

25-11-2006 08:49

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by updater (Post 34166329)

I'm glad NTL have upped the upload speed for the 2meg -> 4meg upgrade. 200kbit just wouldn't have been able to do it!

Rik	25-11-2006 10:32

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion (Post 34163108)

Hertfordshire rock solid on 10meg and has always been rock solid for the past 3 yrs, full speed 24/7 so the network is not on its knees like everyone likes to make out.

Obviously lots of people have problems, I understand that, but theres millions of people who have rock steady connections and have done ever since they joined NTL.

NOW PLEASE NTL CAN I HAVE 20/50Meg!! ;)

The Jackal

25-11-2006 10:59

Re: 10 MB for All in December

10 MB for All in December

COME ON TELL ME THIS IS NOT TRUE ? THIS IS SERIOUSLY F*CT UP.

NTL/TELEWEST PLEASE DONT DO THIS - YOU JUST DONT HAVE THE CAPACITY ON YOUR AILING NETWORK INSTEAD FOR CHRISTMAS CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A NETWORK THAT IS FREE WITH LOW LATENCY ?

I'VE ALREADY HAD TO DOWNGRADE FROM 10MEG TO 2MEG JUST TO GET SOME STABILITY OUT OF YOUR SERVICE : PLEASE DONT SUBJECT US TO POOR NETWORK PERFORMANCE OVER DECEMBER.

tubbles

26-11-2006 12:52

Re: 10 MB for All in December

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I am on the 4mb service and apart from some times at peak hours i have to admit that my connection is pretty solid. I have, in the past had to do some proxy switching which, i don't think should be up to me to do cos i AM paying for the service. But, that said i am pretty happy with internet speed. Pages sometimes are really slow to load and it gets annoying but i am only on the 4mb service and my heart goes out to you guys paying top whack for an insulting 10mb service but we all have choices and unless you guys use it for business, You should just cut back to the service that works at the right speed. That will hit NTL where it hurts and thats the pocket maybe and only maybe then they will get their fingers out.

swapshop1

27-11-2006 09:47

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Lincoln performs excellently, 10mb achieves full speed all times of the day. using newservers 1 thread pulls at 6-8 Mbit/s. on occaision i got 9Mbit. Using 2 threads gives me a steady 10Mbit. A dvd in hours instead of days.

Lincoln is a spur from Nottingham i believe, plenty of capacity here. Maybe its because there are only a few people connected to my local cabinet.... Eitherway Ntl are providing an excellent service to me. Roll on 20Mbit

Rik	27-11-2006 12:24

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by swapshop1 (Post 34167555)

Roll on 20Mbit

Hear Hear!

The sooner its brought to Hemel Hemptead the better ;)

Keep up the good work NTL! :D

LenMackin

27-11-2006 12:33

Re: 10 MB for All in December

At long last, certainly in the daytime, I am now seeing the old download figures that i achieved until September being realised again. I am on 10mb in the Warwick area. It's been rubbish for about 8 weeks. I think i need to do something however as i hear that my Terayon TJ210 CM is unable to go above 8mb! Now this modem has served me since May 2001 and has been reliable and brilliant but with changes to the service by NTL it does surprise me that they leave me with an old modem than will never ever work with the new speeds. So, in theory i could sign on for 20mb service if it existed wonder why i never got more than 8? Customer service... not really! At ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£34.99 a month i do think we should automatically get the equipment that can work correctly, after all i have to rely on NTL as i can't nip on Amazon and buy myself a new one can I?

gc7	27-11-2006 12:49

Re: 10 MB for All in December

My 10MB has been solid too, except for the 5 day blip last week, but I have been compensated for that and am more than happy now.

Not sure if I'm looking forward to the 20MB download speed but would definately be interested in some more upload speed.

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d0pey

27-11-2006 13:10

Re: 10 MB for All in December

No problems here in Merseyside.

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setch

27-11-2006 14:18

Re: 10 MB for All in December

It is pretty stable in Harlow also.

Uncle Peter

27-11-2006 15:36

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Browsing is solid in Cheshire but that's just a measure that you have a good connection via the web proxies. Try uploading/downloading P2P or NNTP and it might be a different story altogether.

Fawkes

27-11-2006 15:58

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Well I getting very high packet loss in South Manchester, again!

Code:

Ping statistics for 212.58.228.155:

    Packets: Sent = 84, Received = 51, Lost = 33 (39% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 25ms

I don't need more than 10MB right now, what I want is to be able to browse the net and up and download files.

Some of the problems at the moment seem to be caused by a painfully slow upload. When I first joined NTL I had 512k download and 128k upload (ratio of 4:1). Now I have (when it working) 10MB download and 512K upload (ratio of 20:1).

STOP increasing the download and increase the upload a bit!

micken

27-11-2006 17:04

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fawkes (Post 34167717)

Well I getting very high packet loss in South Manchester, again!

Code:

Ping statistics for 212.58.228.155:

    Packets: Sent = 84, Received = 51, Lost = 33 (39% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 25ms

:gpoint:

I agree, I'm on 10Mb and get similar stability and speed to the recent quotes. A 4:1 ratiofor DL:UL would sort out my p2p & surfing needs quite nicely.

Just-

27-11-2006 19:21

Re: 10 MB for All in December

so as we approach more December is this rumour for real any more ?

etccarmageddon

27-11-2006 19:58

Re: 10 MB for All in December

it was never a rumour but actually from the horses mouth 18 months ago.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...ed-as-standard

nho1993

27-11-2006 23:58

Re: 10 MB for All in December

very stable in bracknell :)

fireman328

28-11-2006 08:01

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Spare a thought for us poor saps with PACE boxes trapped on 1 meg !

georgepomone

28-11-2006 08:30

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Hi All,
after having put up with download on 10MB no better than 2MB I have downgraded to 2MB. I'm not one who moans for the sake of moaning but I have been paying for 10MB and get no better than 2 so might just as well pay for 2.
I was surprised that the speed at 2 is rock steady.You pay for 2 you get 2. The times I've heard that it is up to 10MB. If I got 6 or 8 it would be acceptable but I was getting less than 2 at times. This has been for months.I'll go back to 10 when they can supply it.
Things will certainly have to change in a big way.
George.

Fawkes

28-11-2006 08:32

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman328 (Post 34168139)

Spare a thought for us poor saps with PACE boxes trapped on 1 meg !

Phone NTL tell them you want 10MB and they will give you an NTL 250 modem, how is that trapped?

Bill C

28-11-2006 09:52

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fawkes (Post 34168159)

Phone NTL tell them you want 10MB and they will give you an NTL 250 modem, how is that trapped?

My feelings as well :tu:

lakeybloke

28-11-2006 13:45

Re: 10 MB for All in December

..because they are still charging 50quid for the bloody modem, presumably! ???

Locky

28-11-2006 14:09

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakeybloke (Post 34168294)

..because they are still charging 50quid for the bloody modem, presumably! ???

i didnt think there a charge incurred when your current ntl supplied hardware can not deliver the speed you are subscribed too ?

etccarmageddon

28-11-2006 14:59

Re: 10 MB for All in December

there is no charge as far as I'm aware of - you just ring up and ask to have a cable modem.

pooper

28-11-2006 15:23

Re: 10 MB for All in December

*stamps feet* where's my 20mb dag nammit! :D

FusionXN1

28-11-2006 15:36

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Maybe December ;)

Bill C

28-11-2006 15:43

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionXN1 (Post 34168334)

Maybe December ;)

Or maybe not ;)

Locky

28-11-2006 16:04

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34168338)

Or maybe not ;)

haha yeah probably they liek to drag feet, jus like ITV andl ook were that got them

FusionXN1

28-11-2006 17:29

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locky (Post 34168355)

haha yeah probably they liek to drag feet, jus like ITV andl ook were that got them

I see December or February.

dtweek

28-11-2006 17:51

Re: 10 MB for All in December

lakeybloke if you phone NTL and report the fact you're not getting the 2meg you are paying for and get them to recommend a cable modem you'll get it for Free. If you call CS and say you simply want one they'll then charge you ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£50 for it.

I called today and reported it as a fault, Modem is being installed next week and they've also upgraded me to 10 meg for 3 months for no extra charge. I will need to call them up and have it put back to the lowest service after 3 months, but if this thread is true then everyone will be getting 10meg in 3 months anyway.
I'm quite pleased with this obviously as it gives me 10meg now and costs me nothing.

I'm a happy punter today.

Anyway can anyone confirm that we'll all be getting 10 meg in the next 3 months?

Bill C

28-11-2006 17:53

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionXN1 (Post 34168392)

I see December or February.

Oh i could be evil and say "i dont".

Wonder how far that would get as a rumour.

To be honest i have no idea at all if this is true or false ;)

I have heard absolutely nothing at all about any upgrades downgrades or side grades :)

Please don't go screaming to NTL now saying such and such said it not happening. I repeat i don't know :)

And anyway i want 20 meg not 10meg :LOL:

FusionXN1

29-11-2006 00:12

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34168410)

If we get it, we get it, if we don't, we don't. Simple. Just when I think if it does happen--that's when.

Rik	29-11-2006 00:44

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34168410)

And anyway i want 20 meg not 10meg :LOL:

Hear! Hear! ;)

kingdeacon

30-11-2006 09:25

Re: 10 MB for All in December

Hi, my first post. After finding this site and reading some of the posts I thought i would give ntl a call to see if i could get a better deal, and i did. I currently have tv(full package) phone and 4MB BB with ntl costing ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£73.50 per month, after phoning this morning and saying i wanted to go to sky where i could get all the same but 8mb bb for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£69.50 inc bt line rental, they have slashed my bill by ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£17.50 per month for 6 months and upgraded me to 10mb bb for free for 3 months. Which i thought was dam good!
The person i spoke to in customer relations said in january they are going to have new higher speeds on there BB and the lowest will be 4MB, with the current 4MB going to 10mb, and 10MB which im now on for 3 months will become 20MB, I asked if there would be one higher than 20mb to which he said yes but not in january, 2 or 3 months later there will be a 50MB service.
I just got to wait 3 weeks now! for the first free slot to have my free modem fitted as i only got the samsung box at the mo, must be alot of people doing this if its a 3 week wait!
oh one more thing what upload will i be getting with 10MB BB?

Rob
Brighton

mcilwraith

30-11-2006 10:48

Re: 10 MB for All in December

if true, very interesting! thanks for the info! roll on 4Mb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdeacon (Post 34169432)

Logan

30-11-2006 11:17

Re: 10 MB for All in December

I can't wait to see if this actually happens. What a nice Christmas present :D

Hoping I'll go from 10mb to 20mb with no hassles, as 10mb is rock solid here in East Hunsbury, Northampton.

dcclanuk

30-11-2006 11:26

Re: 10 MB for All in December

speed is fine in the daytime!
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/11/1.png

when it comes to the evening, the speed nosedives! just called TECH SUPPORT, and they said [basically] oversubscribed. Will be fixed in a few days time... I mean come on! It was a general area fault last thursday, and now its an on going area fault!:mad: Unusable internet at night time!:o:

Logan

30-11-2006 11:33

Re: 10 MB for All in December

What's the time range where it nosedives? Where I am in Northampton, it still seems to run at near enough max speed whatever the time.

ee61re

30-11-2006 12:11

Re: 10 MB for All in December

My 4Mb is fine during the week daytimes, but evenings and weekends it nosedives to 1.5Mb or thereabouts. Sometimes worse.

Its only started doing it in the last few weeks.

It can only really be oversubscription, can't it?

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