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dunkyb 08-11-2006 20:48

Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
:sleep: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:42:24 UTC

1st 512K took 1482 ms = 345.5 KB/sec, approx 2847 Kbps, 2.78 Mbps
2nd 512K took 3515 ms = 145.7 KB/sec, approx 1201 Kbps, 1.17 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1332 ms = 384.4 KB/sec, approx 3167 Kbps, 3.09 Mbps
4th 512K took 2213 ms = 231.4 KB/sec, approx 1907 Kbps, 1.86 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 2281 Kbps, 2.22 Mbps


Repeat the test a few mins later:

Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:45:44 UTC

1st 512K took 491 ms = 1042.8 KB/sec, approx 8593 Kbps, 8.39 Mbps
2nd 512K took 621 ms = 824.5 KB/sec, approx 6794 Kbps, 6.63 Mbps
3rd 512K took 861 ms = 594.7 KB/sec, approx 4900 Kbps, 4.79 Mbps
4th 512K took 2093 ms = 244.6 KB/sec, approx 2016 Kbps, 1.97 Mbps


There is no up/downstream bandwidth being used when the tests are being run..

I dont think it's worth phoning support again as they'll probably just ask me to reboot my PC a few times, muck around with firewall settings etc? Looks like either congested upstream, or bandwidth throttling

If anyone could help me I'd really appreciate it, as I'm at my wits end.. had packet loss/fluctuating latency and intermittent browsing for about 2yrs now.. Had my coax re-installed the other day as i've re-decorated my room and needed the connection point moving, so i know that is all OK. nice short piece of coax!

Cheers

Duncan

jeffcrouch 08-11-2006 20:58

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
hmm - not slow here in notts, BUT i have noticed i can't access loads of sites i usually go to - DNS mess up anybody?

pooper 08-11-2006 22:28

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I've had that tonight.... one minute i get a 'server not found' error, then if i try again a few mins later, the site is magically back... :S

Doofy 08-11-2006 22:37

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
think i can beat you there down to dial up speeds here modem config log says it was on 2mb and i am on 10mb, rang tech support who insisted it was on 10mb. Told them the file stated it was on 2mb then next time i looked 2 mins later it was back to 10mb. Weird apart from that browsing is down to a crawl and i do mean a crawl under 2 mb all the time so far.

ic2 08-11-2006 23:07

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doofy (Post 34153878)
think i can beat you there down to dial up speeds here

Snap and this is to a London server from Rickmansworth, some 13 miles from the smoke on a 10 mb connection, plus the IP phone is up and down like a fiddlers elbow!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/56721083.png



Regards

dunkyb 09-11-2006 21:58

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Browsing has just slowed to a crawl again ...

I'm not going to bother running any pings as they've always fluctuated wildly lol...

Weirdly, my modem's upstream power level is 2dBmv lower than usual, and the SNR a little higher..

So sounds like proxies? :( (Edit: or QoS, or some other bizarre annoying traffic management)

pooper 16-11-2006 11:48

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ic2 (Post 34153915)
up and down like a fiddlers elbow!

lol :D

dunkyb 16-11-2006 22:27

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
This is absolutely pathetic....

21:27

Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:26:24 UTC

1st 512K took 2263 ms = 226.2 KB/sec, approx 1864 Kbps, 1.82 Mbps
2nd 512K took 3395 ms = 150.8 KB/sec, approx 1243 Kbps, 1.21 Mbps
3rd 512K took 3525 ms = 145.2 KB/sec, approx 1196 Kbps, 1.17 Mbps
4th 512K took 1652 ms = 309.9 KB/sec, approx 2554 Kbps, 2.49 Mbps


so much for 10mbit!! At least I always used to get the full 10Meg but browsing was crap due to proxies... pah

thewiccaman 16-11-2006 22:31

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Well, after weeks of getting anything from 150kbs to 1mbs if I was lucky during peak times i.e. most of the time since I moved across town at the end of Sept., tonight it's a respectable 7ish mbps!

I'm not holding my breath for it lasting though!

dunkyb 16-11-2006 22:35

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Doesnt seem to be purely down to QoS or anything either, getting a whole 60Kbyte/s download via FTP. It's usually fairly respectable!

I get bored of people complaining of getting 4mbit/s on ADSL at work, but 1Mbit on 10Mbit/s cable is just silly!

UncleBooBoo 16-11-2006 22:37

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
And as long as you lot continue to pay for it I can't see it getting much better!

dunkyb 16-11-2006 22:43

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I wont be paying for it, i have logs of the past week or so when ive been getting between 1 and 2mbit.. Why should I be paying for 10Meg when Im only receiving 2!

No doubt they'll get out of it some how

Just noticed customer services doesnt appear to be free on the 150 number any more either!! oh dear.

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 00:34

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Gone very slow for me in the past couple weeks. Tonight im geting 1.5meg :(

dunkyb 17-11-2006 01:57

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
even when just about to go to bed at 1am, im still only getting 5-6Mbit!

sterritt 17-11-2006 12:22

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
im having problems as well, sometimes my 10meg loads web pages very quickly other times it says cannot load this page but will load it if i hit refresh.

ntl tol dme that they are working on the network and this might happen for a few days to some ppl, while other will not notice the drop.

i asked if it was in preparation of the broadband speed increase? and the reply was i dont know lol

i love it when ntl employee's are in the loop lol

etccarmageddon 17-11-2006 13:06

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
have you tried the proxy dance? when I specify a proxy my speeds go from 1-4meg to the correct 9-10meg range.

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 17:48

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I dont use a proxy, and i usually get full speed.

etccarmageddon 17-11-2006 18:58

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Yes but try a proxy when your speeds go to silly slow levels.

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 19:02

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I tried them before they are even worse, seems to be back today though :)

etccarmageddon 17-11-2006 19:16

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
on occasion my browsing goes crap and turning on or unticking my proxy setting resolves it - ie. sometimes the proxy is the cure and sometimes it's at fault.

anduin 17-11-2006 19:32

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
The problem with using proxies is the fact that only the traffic that you are requesting through a browser is affected. Anything else you want to do with your connection is still routed by the default route specified by NTL and is therefore slow slow slow. Not to mention the longer response times you get from routing further away.

I know this isnt a problem for a lot of people, but it just annoys me that we should run workarounds for their incompetence and poor network structure.

etccarmageddon 17-11-2006 19:42

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
the problem would be resolved simply if they ditch the stupid proxies!!! as people have been complaining about them for YEARS!!!

anduin 17-11-2006 19:52

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Oh no no no, dont think i was disagreeing with you, i was agreeing with you but stating limitations :)

Yeh i am all for the removal of the proxies, i doubt it will ever happen though.

Call me twisted but i am also of the persuasion that NTL should introduce hard caps to the higher tiers instead of messing about with traffic shaping.
( but i guess that would be a whole new thread, and i would get shot down in flames for suggesting it ;) )

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 19:54

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I disagree on that, but just turn the proxy off and your unaffected so why the need to get rid of em?

anduin 17-11-2006 19:56

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Unaffected by what ?

All your traffic goes through one of their proxies, but you have the ability to re-route your web traffic through an alternative one.

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 20:03

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Ahh does it now? Strange i didnt think it was? Cause I never have a problem with them.

JoeBloggs 17-11-2006 20:31

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sterritt (Post 34160297)
im having problems as well, sometimes my 10meg loads web pages very quickly other times it says cannot load this page but will load it if i hit refresh.

ntl tol dme that they are working on the network and this might happen for a few days to some ppl, while other will not notice the drop.

i asked if it was in preparation of the broadband speed increase? and the reply was i dont know lol

i love it when ntl employee's are in the loop lol

I know exactly what you meen. I get this a hell of alot. I thought it may been my router, but thanks for confirmation. south wales area btw

I personally believe NTL's network is getting hammered and certain people suffer :td:

anduin 17-11-2006 21:23

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionXN1 (Post 34160712)
Ahh does it now? Strange i didnt think it was? Cause I never have a problem with them.

Shhhh dont tempt the lag monster.

Edit:

Well i will be blown..

Connection Information
You appear to be an ntl Customer
Your IP address 86.7.xx.xx
You do not appear to be using a Proxy Server

and to top it off i am gettign better response times than i can ever remember, and to double my pleasures i am also getting 7mb at 8:30 in the evening

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 21:45

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Where you try that. Im sure i seen that before.

anduin 17-11-2006 21:57

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Top of this page .. the 'Connection' link :)

FusionXN1 17-11-2006 22:08

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
You appear to be an ntl Customer Your IP address 82.29.XX.XX You do not appear to be using a Proxy Server

anduin 17-11-2006 22:13

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I hope its not accidental that they are all turned off lol.

etccarmageddon 17-11-2006 22:19

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
in some areas they dont use proxys - in mine it says it is running.

anduin 17-11-2006 22:27

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
yeh, the thing is though .. i have always had one of the baguley ( spelling ) proxies locked to my connection, and if i used a middlesborough ( spelling ) one instead i got 3x the 'experience'

Now curiously my connection isnt trying to run through treacle and its nice.

JoeBloggs 17-11-2006 22:42

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon (Post 34160830)
in some areas they dont use proxys - in mine it says it is running.

me2

dunkyb 20-11-2006 11:40

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
still using the cosham proxies here :/ ......
Browsing has gone back to full speed again this morning... Strange.

Wonder what it'll be like tonight!

r00t 20-11-2006 12:30

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
Easy way to test if you are using a proxy is to vist proxyjudge
http://proxyjudge.com/proxyjudge.html

Quote:

? - REMOTE_HOST=87-127-xx-x.no-dns-yet.enta.net
REMOTE_ADDR=87.127.64.1

HTTP_ACCEPT=text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET=iso-8859-1, utf-8, utf-16, *;q=0.1
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=deflate, gzip, x-gzip, identity, *;q=0
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=en-GB,en;q=0.9
HTTP_CONNECTION=Keep-Alive, TE
HTTP_HOST=proxyjudge.org
HTTP_REFERER=http://proxyjudge.com/proxyjudge.html
via - HTTP_TE=deflate, gzip, chunked, identity, trailers
HTTP_USER_AGENT=Opera/9.02 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
REMOTE_HOST
Result
?
Comment
REMOTE_HOST includes proxy server like word "87-127-xx-x.no-dns-yet.enta.net". REMOTE_HOST includes only one number, it's dubious.

HTTP Env. Value
Result
Via a Proxy
Comment
Proxy servers valuable is detected.

AnonyLevel : 3
So-so.

MistaP 20-11-2006 12:47

Re: Extremely slow on 10Mbit :(
 
I just ran a speed test via this site from the link at the top.
I was getting 1-2Mbps on a 10Mb service.

I changed ip addresses by switching ethernet ports on the pc and rebooted cable modem etc, which changed my IP and gateway

Im not a lot more nearer 10Mbs - about 8.5-10Mbs :tu:

So does this mean that some gateway servers are saturated and over subscribed?

1-2Meg on 10Meg is appauling service :td:


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