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AndrewJ 02-11-2006 00:48

4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Right, belated birthday pressie for me.

A new dual core processor for my Asus A8n32 SLi Deluxe, I would like to spend under £200 so I can stock up on beer for BF 2142 when I am pwning you all :disturbd:

So my question is this.

Do I buy the 4400

Quote:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400 + Socket 939, ToledoCore, 2x 2.2GHz, 2MB Cache, Retail



Or

Do I buy the 4600


Or do I pre-order and go insane for a 4800.

Quote:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800 + Socket 939, ToledoCore, 2x 2.4GHz, 2MB Cache, Retail



Now the 4600 is nicely in my price margin, and has a nice speed of 2.4ghz which is the same as the 4800 processor, but the 4800 has more cache than the 4600 as does the 4400, so I am confused.

Most of my time is spent on games online and minimal graphics or other work, for speed of access since they're always in stock it would seem the 4600 is the better choice, but I would like input on these three processors thanks, and while I acknowledge their is better easier perhaps faster computers out their with Intel Duo Core etc, I am happy with my mobo and just need advice on these processors thanks.

:tu:

Paul 02-11-2006 01:29

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Given the choice of those three, I would go for the 4800. More cache = better performance.

AndrewJ 02-11-2006 01:31

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Any idea of how hard it is to find one, Scan and OCUK are out of stock.

Druchii 02-11-2006 01:57

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34149166)
Given the choice of those three, I would go for the 4800. More cache = better performance.

Why nbot the 4400 then? with a slight Overclock?

keithwalton 02-11-2006 02:08

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
The 4800 (and all higher cache) Athlon 64's went out of production over the summer. It is highly unlikely that you will be able to find one anywhere new.

When i say out of production thats not quite true, they still make the chips they are just packaged and sold as Amd Opterons.

Only 2x512k cache athlons are still sold. which is meager compared to the unified 4 meg cache you get on the intel conroe chips

AndrewJ 02-11-2006 02:21

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
So basically since I know I can grab a 4600 brand new boxed, I should bite Scans hand off while I can for it?

zing_deleted 02-11-2006 09:56

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
I already told you the 4600 is the way to go :)
If you do want 2 meg cache then the 4400 and its unlikely the 200 mhz will make much of a difference

TheBlueRaja 02-11-2006 10:33

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Why not go for the Core2 Duo from intel? Its a better chip - are you keeping the same motherboard i take it?

zing_deleted 02-11-2006 11:05

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
We been here before and I got told off :) So all I offer now is the advice requested which is either the 4400 or the 4600 :)

TheBlueRaja 02-11-2006 11:28

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Ah - no probs bud!

zing_deleted 02-11-2006 11:31

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
I would have been shouting out for C2D also :)

AndrewJ 02-11-2006 18:41

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
LOL I promise when I am ready to build another rig, I shall gain advice from the both of you over the Intel and AMD debate ;) I trust Intel are ahead but I admit now I am a proud AMD Fanboy :D

keithwalton 03-11-2006 14:40

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Its a no brainer as my other post suggested, it has to be the 4600 and the 4400 and the 4800 in that spec are unavaliable anymore and havent been for 3 months+ now so will be very very hard to find.

I'd also go with the c2d vote but you wanna be cheap and you wont get much for cheap with c2d (new mobo, ram and cpu will be required, easily past £200!)

AndrewJ 03-11-2006 19:22

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
I plan on a whole new rig later into 2007 and hand this one to the gf, but right now I would like to get this on Dual core.

So time to go buy the 4600 once the moolah is ready!

marky 03-11-2006 20:54

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
I'll pick one up and fit it for you buddy, just give me a shout when you are ready and i'll pick you up :)

AndrewJ 04-11-2006 04:25

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 34150239)
I'll pick one up and fit it for you buddy, just give me a shout when you are ready and i'll pick you up :)

Cheers mate, hoping for next week but shall wait and see, what happens bill wise.

Expensive time of year this :dozey:

zing_deleted 04-11-2006 09:01

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion (Post 34149472)
LOL I promise when I am ready to build another rig, I shall gain advice from the both of you over the Intel and AMD debate ;) I trust Intel are ahead but I admit now I am a proud AMD Fanboy :D


so was I till I found the D805 overclocked and performed hard on the tails of the FX60 for 70 quid.The C2Ds just blitz everything AMD has in its arsenal. I dont like Intel chipsets on motherboards however and will be sourcing something better in the new year

AndrewJ 08-11-2006 14:28

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Right I am getting it ordered on Wednesday coming ( week today basically ) now I know it comes with a heatsink/fan but do I use the paste pad which comes with it, or should I get some artic silver compound.

Is the stock pad/paste good enough? I've a decent case with good ventilation and numerous case fans ( coolermaster wavemaster silver case )

zing_deleted 08-11-2006 15:46

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
order an artic cooling freezer 64 for it an use what comes on that :)

AndrewJ 08-11-2006 16:11

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34153514)
order an artic cooling freezer 64 for it an use what comes on that :)

The past or some other cooler unit :confused:

marky 08-11-2006 16:16

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Zing has a point, if you got oem rather than retail and stuck this on it :D

AndrewJ 08-11-2006 16:19

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Nah this ones retail :D I run a AMD 3000 right now and since you nicely helped me move over to my new mobo, I have noticed temps have dropped alot since you removed the stock compound and used artic silver.

Hence I am toying with also ordering some more artic silver...

zing_deleted 08-11-2006 16:22

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
but the cooler is made by Artic and it runs quieter and more efficiently than stock but again its your choice

AndrewJ 08-11-2006 17:14

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Thanks something to consider...most of the moolah is going into this CPU, should my temps keep running high I'll be considering it.

What is high for a X2 cpu?

zing_deleted 08-11-2006 17:58

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
dunno to be honest ive never had one run hotter than 45

AndrewJ 08-11-2006 18:35

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
Well this one in my old case hummed in at about 55c...

zing_deleted 08-11-2006 18:42

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
but its nto an x2 yet

AndrewJ 08-11-2006 18:44

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
No and this case is bigger and has a better mobo and internal cooling layout...

MovedGoalPosts 08-11-2006 19:48

Re: 4400 4600 or the 4800
 
If you are running at stock speeds then I'd suggest the AMD supplied retail fan and compound are adequate. It will be less noisy though if you upgrade to the Artic cooler as they are more efficient. It's not about the case and motherboard design so much as the effort required to get the heat away from the source point, i.e. the CPU.

Even with a good CPU cooler, you then also need a good case design so air will flow away from the CPU cooler fan, and be vented outside the case.

If you are likely to clock the CPU, then I'd definitely be looking at an upgraded cooler. Oddly enough some review suggest the compound supplied with the Arctic coolers can work better than the silver stuff.


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