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jane 25-10-2006 20:34

AVG
 
i have this installed on my pc, but before i had norton. when using the file transfer in msn messenger, norton would automatically scan for threats. but every time now someone tries to send me something it says virus scan failed. check tools and file transfer. on doing that i noticed that "myprogs/norton etc" was still in the path to scan stuff, so i pressed browse to find avg double clicked on that and am wondering with part of it i should click on to make it scan files. i found avg scan.exe and clicked on that, it scanned something and let it through, a little black box came up in the corner with command line yiykes that looked scary and went so quick i couldnt see what it said!! do you think i did the right thing?

thanks from jane

MovedGoalPosts 25-10-2006 21:21

Re: AVG
 
Part of the problem is that you probably have not fully removed Norton. That program is notorious for the way it attaches itself to your PC, and the uninstall routines don't get it all. Can't find them at the moment but I know there are links on here as to the best way to get rid of it. Then you can sort out AVG's settings.

ADd 25-10-2006 21:25

Re: AVG
 
This should help:

http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm

dragon 25-10-2006 21:41

Re: AVG
 
actually i believe what the OP is asking is what are the commandline arguments that he needs to tell MSN to pass to AVG to make it scan the recieved file ;)

ADd 25-10-2006 21:52

Re: AVG
 
That may be so, but if remnants of Norton are still on the system, which is very likely they could be interfering with AVG's setup (it should be setup to scan msn automatically).

Go for a methodical approach, so ensure Norton has been removed first.

What MSN are you using 7.5 of live - I have a virtual box that I can test this out on for you jane

dragon 25-10-2006 22:23

Re: AVG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADd (Post 34144606)
That may be so, but if remnants of Norton are still on the system, which is very likely they could be interfering with AVG's setup (it should be setup to scan msn automatically).

Go for a methodical approach, so ensure Norton has been removed first.

What MSN are you using 7.5 of live - I have a virtual box that I can test this out on for you jane

The on access scanner will of course scan files recieved from msn

But in the Msn messenger preferences its possible to specify which av software you wish MSN to invoke an ondemand scan of the file with on comlpetion of a filetransfer

in order to do this you'd need to know the full path to the scanners .exe files and the paraimters which need to be passed to the av scanner to make it scan the file

personaly i never bother as the on access scanner should take care of any viruses in incoming file transfers anyway so whats the poinnt of scanning it again with the ondemand scanner ;)

ADd 25-10-2006 22:36

Re: AVG
 
In that case it should be the scanning engine that WinRar uses.

I have just installed AVG 7.5 free; winrar uses the following path

C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG free\avgscan.exe

:)

jane 26-10-2006 16:29

Re: AVG
 
i have used the norton tool before to try to get rid of all the remenants, and as soon as i booted back up my cpu would be at 100% and the fan would go nuts, the only way to stop it was to use system restore. as far as i know all of avg works fine, ive had no probs with it, i put that path name into the msn file transfer sanning field and it does scan and let things come through so that should be fine too i hope!! if i look in the event viewer, every day something called norton auto protect tries to load but cant find the path! obviously because i uninstalled the bugger!! not sure how to stop it from doing this though. it dosent seem to cause any problems, i only know its happening cause im always looking for errors in the event viewer!! on doing a search for symantec and norton, about 8 files were found. 2 of them cookies. i dont know if i should just try and delete them or just leave well alone as they dont seem to be causing any conflict. what do you think? im definately not using the norton removal tool as that seemed to cause HUGE problems!

ADd 26-10-2006 17:53

Re: AVG
 
Looks like you are still infected with Norton ;)

From the link I provided above your next step is this download tool - for failed un-installations with the automatic removal tool:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...osv_lvl=&aseg=

Please back-up all your personal data, word files, emails etc to a cd or USB stick before doing this

Also ensure you have your Windows XP cd - in case things go wrong. Follow the instructions exactly to remove the product.

Ignore the third step :)

---------- Post added at 17:53 ---------- Previous post was at 17:49 ----------

In addition to the files you have found, you will also have registry entries which this manual tool should remove.

jane 26-10-2006 18:03

Re: AVG
 
im really wary of using any norton removal tool as i used the online one and the manual download one which really messed things up:erm:

AndrewJ 26-10-2006 19:36

Re: AVG
 
I would use CCleaner to remove any left overs, once done boot into safe mode and delete any remaining folders in "program files" and then rerun ccleaner, reboot and be happy :D

ADd 26-10-2006 19:39

Re: AVG
 
Although this won't take account of the orphaned registry entries :)

AndrewJ 26-10-2006 20:29

Re: AVG
 
CCleaner has a registry cleaner :shrug:

ADd 26-10-2006 21:41

Re: AVG
 
Which has known issues, and has been known to remove critical registry entries. It is also not very thorough, but i am not a fan of automatic registry cleaners anyway ;)

jane 27-10-2006 21:07

Re: AVG
 
this is the message i get every day in the event viewer, where do i go to stop norton even trying to start this auto protect when i have uninstalled it lol
preferably without using any of the norton removal tools or registry cleaner as i just seem to make things worse. this error dosent seem to cause any problems but i bet it will only be a matter of time. if you dont think it will cause any problems i will just leave well alone




Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7000
Description:
The Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the path specified.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Pia 28-10-2006 00:15

Re: AVG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jane (Post 34145928)
preferably without using any of the norton removal tools or registry cleaner as i just seem to make things worse.

Jane i'd use the removal tools if i were you, my friend had the same problem on her pc and she's even worse at techy stuff than me so i sorted it for her using those and it was gone:tu:
Best off getting rid altogether and then you know it won't be conflicting with your current AV and also using up your memory/RAM.

ADd 30-10-2006 00:26

Re: AVG
 
What seems to be happening is the registry still has an entry asking Windows to start the Norton Auto-Protect Service. However this message:
Quote:

The Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the path specified.
Indicates that the file the registry entry is pointing to no longer exists (you have deleted it). Therefore the error log has been created. Typical of an incomplete uninstall, however if it isn't causing problems, it doesn't look critical. You could go to start>>>run type services.msc browse through the list created and see if there is an entry for Norton Auto-Protect Service. If there is highlight it and right click, choose properties, then under start-up chooses disabled. This should stop the service attempting to startup, and stop the error logs.

jane 30-10-2006 21:46

Re: AVG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADd (Post 34147126)
What seems to be happening is the registry still has an entry asking Windows to start the Norton Auto-Protect Service. However this message:

Indicates that the file the registry entry is pointing to no longer exists (you have deleted it). Therefore the error log has been created. Typical of an incomplete uninstall, however if it isn't causing problems, it doesn't look critical. You could go to start>>>run type services.msc browse through the list created and see if there is an entry for Norton Auto-Protect Service. If there is highlight it and right click, choose properties, then under start-up chooses disabled. This should stop the service attempting to startup, and stop the error logs.


thanks, have just done that and then restarted with no error messages in the event log!! yey!!
i wonder if that will be an end to it?

ADd 30-10-2006 22:12

Re: AVG
 
Hopefully, the orphaned entry is still in the registry, but as you have disabled it Windows will 'ignore' it when you start-up.

jane 01-11-2006 17:13

Re: AVG
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADd (Post 34147607)
Hopefully, the orphaned entry is still in the registry, but as you have disabled it Windows will 'ignore' it when you start-up.

what do you mean "hopefully" that sounds bad lol!! i have turned the pc on and shut it dowm about 3 times and nothing bad has happened!! does that mean im in the clear? what if nortons not in the registry then is that bad? i should think its still there because i cant get rid of the bugger lol:disturbd:

ADd 02-11-2006 18:57

Re: AVG
 
;) Well you never know.

Norton's entries in the registry are not 'bad' as you have disabled the service in services.msc they are just superfluous. Here a link and quote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256986
Quote:

Description of the registry
The Microsoft Computer Dictionary, Fifth Edition, defines the registry as:
A central hierarchical database used in Microsoft Windows 9x, Windows CE, Windows NT, and Windows 2000 used to store information necessary to configure the system for one or more users, applications and hardware devices.

The Registry contains information that Windows continually references during operation, such as profiles for each user, the applications installed on the computer and the types of documents that each can create, property sheet settings for folders and application icons, what hardware exists on the system, and the ports that are being used.

The Registry replaces most of the text-based .ini files used in Windows 3.x and MS-DOS configuration files, such as the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys. Although the Registry is common to several Windows operating systems, there are some differences among them.
Registry data is stored in binary files.
So the registry tells the OS what to do, and where things are - (plus many other functions). Thus the entry that was giving you problems was 'asking' Windows to start the file, and thus the service. As it wasn't there, an error was produced. In my experience disabling this service is not critical to the Windows OS, and as you have done it the correct way, you should experience no adverse effects, I have many services disabled and no 'crashes' on my System. (though I'm not perfect, so don't quote me). :p:


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