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paul11974 24-10-2006 17:19
Wireless help
 
Hi im after some help on routers i have a wired router at the moment and have purchased a laptop is there ayway i could buy a wireless usb stick for my wired router instead of having to purchase a whole new wireless router ?

NoKnowledge 24-10-2006 17:24
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
To get wireless connection you need a wireless router which will wirelessly route the connection. What make/model router do you have? It might already have a wireless feature.

AntiSilence 24-10-2006 17:30
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
You can just get a Wireless Access Point instead of a new router.

paul11974 24-10-2006 17:38
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34143625)
To get wireless connection you need a wireless router which will wirelessly route the connection. What make/model router do you have? It might already have a wireless feature.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...Fencoding=UTF8

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiSilence (Post 34143629)
You can just get a Wireless Access Point instead of a new router.
could you tell me a little more please ?

AntiSilence 24-10-2006 17:47
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34143633)
could you tell me a little more please ?
Well, if you've already got the router, you can stick an access point on the wired network so you can use wired as well as wireless.

It saves buying a whole router. An example would be one of these

NoKnowledge 24-10-2006 17:48
Re: Wireless help
 
The price difference between an AP and a wireless router is the same. I would rather go for a new wireless router.

Edit> Sorry AntiSilence - a minute late with my post...dammmn

AntiSilence 24-10-2006 17:50
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34143641)
The price difference between an AP and a wireless router is the same. I would rather go for a new wireless router.

Edit> Sorry AntiSilence - a minute late with my post...dammmn
LOL

I'd rather stick with my wired network since I had wireless and my game pings went up to over 100.

paul11974 24-10-2006 17:59
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiSilence (Post 34143639)
Well, if you've already got the router, you can stick an access point on the wired network so you can use wired as well as wireless.

It saves buying a whole router. An example would be one of these
thank you antisilence would this one not be better as its the same make ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-WAP5...&s=electronics

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34143641)
The price difference between an AP and a wireless router is the same. I would rather go for a new wireless router.

Edit> Sorry AntiSilence - a minute late with my post...dammmn
yes i was thinking this which one would be best to hook up with this laptop ?

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?QuickLinx=48HL

NoKnowledge 24-10-2006 18:31
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34143644)
yes i was thinking this which one would be best to hook up with this laptop ?

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?QuickLinx=48HL
That link is for a HP lappy.

Aragorn 24-10-2006 19:10
Re: Wireless help
 
My HP laptop has an Intel WirelessG card (same vintage as yours), so any wireless access point should be sufficient, such as the WAP54G.
Don't forget, if you get a WAP54G you will have two devices plugged in doing the job that one could do.If you want just one, then a Linksys WRT54G would do the job.

paul11974 24-10-2006 19:45
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34143660)
That link is for a HP lappy.

yes i know i was asking the best wireless router for that laptop

paul11974 24-10-2006 22:06
Re: Wireless help
 
well it worked out at £35 for the access point and £37 for the router so have decided to go with the router

few more questions

will i have to reconfigure the little mans ps2 to play online

NoKnowledge 24-10-2006 22:12
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34143706)
yes i know i was asking the best wireless router for that laptop
Lol, My name is No Knowledge so serves me right.

Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34143822)
will i have to reconfigure the little mans ps2 to play online
Don't you mean yours? And yes it will need to be reconfigured as you won't be using the wired router so flog it on eBay.

paul11974 25-10-2006 00:21
Re: WIRELESS HELP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34143824)
Lol, My name is No Knowledge so serves me right.



Don't you mean yours? And yes it will need to be reconfigured as you won't be using the wired router so flog it on eBay.
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so what will i have to change for him to still be able to play online with his ps2 ?

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could i not plug this wireless router into my wired router and it will work ?

danielf 25-10-2006 00:34
Re: Wireless help
 
Your wireless router will most likely come with 4 wired ports as well (the linksys WRT54G does), so hooking up the ps2 should be a matter of simply plugging in the existing cable for the ps2. The lappy will require configuring for wireless access.

paul11974 25-10-2006 09:43
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34143908)
Your wireless router will most likely come with 4 wired ports as well (the linksys WRT54G does), so hooking up the ps2 should be a matter of simply plugging in the existing cable for the ps2. The lappy will require configuring for wireless access.


yes it does come with 4 wired ports so would this avoid me having to re register his ps2 for playing online ?

also could i connect this new router via its wired connections to my current router and use the both together ?

zing_deleted 25-10-2006 09:45
Re: Wireless help
 
never tried that but if you plug into a lan and leave the wan I think it will just use the switch

paul11974 25-10-2006 09:53
Re: Wireless help
 
i only have 1 pc and the ps2 plugged into my wired router so there is still 2 spare ports so just plugging the wireless router into the wired router would work a treat has anyone got this set up ?

Aragorn 25-10-2006 10:36
Re: Wireless help
 
In theory it will work - you plug the new router's WAN port into one of the old routers ports. The new router gets a DHCP address from the old router and the new one then issues it's own DHCP addresses. You will probably need to change the default local address range for the new router as it will clash with the old one. ie the old one will be using 192.168.1.xxx and so will the new. In the admin page for the WRT54G you can change the local address range to 192.168.2.xxx.
It's not a great solution as you're adding unecessary overhead (Wireless traffic now has to pass through the firewall on two routers!) but it should work.

paul11974 25-10-2006 10:50
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn (Post 34144025)
In theory it will work - you plug the new router's WAN port into one of the old routers ports. The new router gets a DHCP address from the old router and the new one then issues it's own DHCP addresses. You will probably need to change the default local address range for the new router as it will clash with the old one. ie the old one will be using 192.168.1.xxx and so will the new. In the admin page for the WRT54G you can change the local address range to 192.168.2.xxx.
It's not a great solution as you're adding unecessary overhead (Wireless traffic now has to pass through the firewall on two routers!) but it should work.

thankyou very good advice

UncleBooBoo 25-10-2006 11:05
Re: Wireless help
 
Whatever you do, do not get a Linksys WRT54G!!!

The signal coverage is crap on the latest versions. The V7 model is totally crap!

paul11974 25-10-2006 11:21
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke (Post 34144046)
Whatever you do, do not get a Linksys WRT54G!!!

The signal coverage is crap on the latest versions. The V7 model is totally crap!

ermmm thanks that is what i have just purchased what makes you say they are crap ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...978901-4813436

UncleBooBoo 25-10-2006 11:29
Re: Wireless help
 
They use a different chip set to the other models and are well know to have poor signal!

I had the V5 model and got signal all over my home but it developed a fault so I took it back to argos and they replaced it but only had the V7 model and I could not get any signal in my living room at all. Had three V7 units all the same so I email linksys who confirmed there are known issues with the V7 and told me to take it back for a refund so that is what I did yesterday! If you got a plasterboard house then you may be lucky otherwise do a google and see for yourself!

I need to find a quality router now!

Just to add the V1-V4 were supposed to be the best models of the WRT54G. V5 & V6 had less memory and came with a different firmware version. The V7 is basically a tottaly different router in the same case!

paul11974 25-10-2006 12:04
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke (Post 34144059)
They use a different chip set to the other models and are well know to have poor signal!

I had the V5 model and got signal all over my home but it developed a fault so I took it back to argos and they replaced it but only had the V7 model and I could not get any signal in my living room at all. Had three V7 units all the same so I email linksys who confirmed there are known issues with the V7 and told me to take it back for a refund so that is what I did yesterday! If you got a plasterboard house then you may be lucky otherwise do a google and see for yourself!

I need to find a quality router now!

Just to add the V1-V4 were supposed to be the best models of the WRT54G. V5 & V6 had less memory and came with a different firmware version. The V7 is basically a tottaly different router in the same case!
amazon dont tell you what version it is ?

what router would you suggest then ?

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what about this one

http://www.ntlshop.ntlworld.com/webs...ode=SELF520302

UncleBooBoo 25-10-2006 13:08
Re: Wireless help
 
If you can get hold of one of the earlier versions of the WRT54G then grab one! (Try ebay)

However if you buy a new one then you will no doubt get a Version 7.

To be honest I am looking for a new one myself and I am not sure which one to get. If anyone can point out a good wireless router that has good coverage then you will no doubt be helping us both out! :)

UncleBooBoo 25-10-2006 19:35
Re: Wireless help
 
I have decided to get this one when it's back in stock:

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ProductID=3099

paul11974 25-10-2006 19:50
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke (Post 34144466)
I have decided to get this one when it's back in stock:

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ProductID=3099
so sticking with linskys

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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34144472)
so sticking with linskys

what do you reckon tothis one

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/886496

UncleBooBoo 25-10-2006 20:47
Re: Wireless help
 
Looks OK to me, however I will stick with the WRT54GL and attach the high gain antennas instead of the standard ones that come attached to it!

Will let you know how it goes.

paul11974 26-10-2006 22:35
Re: Wireless help
 
We are preparing these items for dispatch and this part of your order cannot be cancelled or changed.


ohhh well looks like i will have to try it out

paul11974 30-10-2006 23:10
Re: Wireless help
 
well after a really bad night

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...9#post11342979

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33602865


what do you think of this

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/45623

SnoopZ 30-10-2006 23:19
Re: Wireless help
 
[edit]

Nevermind seeing its the linksys you are having problems with.

paul11974 31-10-2006 18:14
Re: Wireless help
 
bump is it best to match a wireless access point with the same make of router ie linkys router linkys wireless access point

SnoopZ 31-10-2006 18:53
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34148099)
bump is it best to match a wireless access point with the same make of router ie linkys router linkys wireless access point
If you had a Linksys router with speedbooster technology, then getting a wireless adaptor with the same speedbooster technology would benefit you.

paul11974 31-10-2006 19:24
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34148117)
If you had a Linksys router with speedbooster technology, then getting a wireless adaptor with the same speedbooster technology would benefit you.

my current wired router is a Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router with 4-Port Switch

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...VisitorWrapper

SnoopZ 31-10-2006 19:34
Re: Wireless help
 
You have nothing to lose using a different make of wireless adaptor with that router as it doesn't have the linksys speedbooster built in. Just make sure you get one that's compatible with the latest 802.11g standard. That way you will benefit if you buy a more modern router that supports those standards.

paul11974 31-10-2006 19:49
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34148169)
You have nothing to lose using a different make of wireless adaptor with that router as it doesn't have the linksys speedbooster built in. Just make sure you get one that's compatible with the latest 802.11g standard. That way you will benefit if you buy a more modern router that supports those standards.
thanks snoopz what about this one http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/45623

SnoopZ 31-10-2006 19:56
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34148188)
thanks snoopz what about this one http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/45623
I may of got out of my depth with all this as i'm not really sure about this stuff. What i thought you wanted was a router and a wireless adaptor to go with that router. I'm now unsure how old that router is so i think it's best someone helps you that has more knowledge on this subject so i don't lead you in the wrong direction. Although i think that would work fine.

My setup would be a Linksys WRT54GS router and a Linksys WUSB54G wireless adaptor.

DocDutch 31-10-2006 20:11
Re: Wireless help
 
Paul, if I were you I wouldnt go to the route of getting an AP. get a complete new router. works alot better and you dont have to have 3 units plugged into the power socket which can sometimes be a crime in finding.

my advice is get a Linksys router they are normally pretty stable and the card you got in the HP lappy is more then likely a Intel Pro wireless 2200 B/G and those are good.

get a wlan router dont mess with AP's is my opinion.

1 of the main reasons is say you got AP of brand A and router of brand B then you would have to configure the AP in the same IP range of router B and that can be a bit messy.

paul11974 31-10-2006 20:29
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34148220)
Paul, if I were you I wouldnt go to the route of getting an AP. get a complete new router. works alot better and you dont have to have 3 units plugged into the power socket which can sometimes be a crime in finding.

my advice is get a Linksys router they are normally pretty stable and the card you got in the HP lappy is more then likely a Intel Pro wireless 2200 B/G and those are good.

get a wlan router dont mess with AP's is my opinion.

1 of the main reasons is say you got AP of brand A and router of brand B then you would have to configure the AP in the same IP range of router B and that can be a bit messy.



arghhhhh but i spent 5 hours trying to set up the new router i have just brought and never got the thing working

DocDutch 31-10-2006 21:55
Re: Wireless help
 
which router is that...is that the linksys in your original post?

paul11974 31-10-2006 22:07
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34148290)
which router is that...is that the linksys in your original post?

i have at the moment a linksys wired cable router but the router i tried to set up was the new linksys wrt54g

UncleBooBoo 31-10-2006 22:12
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34148295)
i have at the moment a linksys wired cable router but the router i tried to set up was the new linksys wrt54g
It wasn't a v7 by any chance was it?

paul11974 31-10-2006 22:42
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke (Post 34148302)
It wasn't a v7 by any chance was it?
yes the one you warned me about but i have had 5 hrs just trying to set up the wired side of the router and still no luck

UncleBooBoo 31-10-2006 22:45
Re: Wireless help
 
Thought it might be, I had the same problem as you!

I had to clone my mac and turn everything off several times and start them all up in sequence before mine would work!

The v7 is a load of crap though!

paul11974 31-10-2006 23:03
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke (Post 34148338)
Thought it might be, I had the same problem as you!

I had to clone my mac and turn everything off several times and start them all up in sequence before mine would work!

The v7 is a load of crap though!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr can you remember your exact settings or should i just sell the thing and get a wap ?

UncleBooBoo 31-10-2006 23:18
Re: Wireless help
 
I can't remember off the top of my head sorry, I know it took me loads of attempts before it worked though!

Think it was more pure luck than anything else!

I took mine back to argos in the end because of the poor wireless signal around my home!

I managed to get a WRT54GSv4 and it is perfect!

popper 01-11-2006 00:32
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34148336)
yes the one you warned me about but i have had 5 hrs just trying to set up the wired side of the router and still no luck
you dont have much luck with your hardware do you paul, DVB-T stick and now this wireless router....

id stay away from anything Belkin if i were you.

Slyder 01-11-2006 08:41
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul11974 (Post 34148349)
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr can you remember your exact settings or should i just sell the thing and get a wap ?
I had to reset the factory settings before doing anything else on my GS model if that helps. :confused:

paul11974 01-11-2006 16:39
Re: Wireless help
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper (Post 34148426)
you dont have much luck with your hardware do you paul, DVB-T stick and now this wireless router....

id stay away from anything Belkin if i were you.


hi popper lol no i don't have much luck and im gonna try this router one more time on Saturday when i have some time to kill


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