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Paul K 18-10-2006 21:44
IE7 full release
 
Due to hit the IE site tonight but there are some other sources out there:Softpedia
Quote:
Hi Folks,

The final release of Internet Explorer 7 should be available today and will be delivered to customers via Automatic Updates starting November 1st. Prior to deployment of IE 7, we strongly recommend that you test your Web sites, extensions, and applications to make sure they are ready. Microsoft recommends that Web sites and applications are ready for the release of Internet Explorer 7 this month.

Internet Explorer 7 is highly compatible with the Web sites, extensions, and applications out there today and we have made significant improvements in security, rendering, and usability. However, some of these improvements and new features may cause some sites to not render properly or change how the user interacts with your site, extension or application.

Help ensure your Web sites, extensions, and applications are compatible with Internet Explorer 7 by testing Internet Explorer 7 and utilizing the following resources and tools to help you identify and resolve any compatibility issues:

Install the latest build of Internet Explorer 7
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie
Prepare your organization using the Internet Explorer 7 Readiness Toolkit
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=64421
Ensure browser-based applications are compatible by using Application Compatibility Toolkit 5.0
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...pat/tools.mspx
Prepare for Internet Explorer 7 to be delivered via Automatic Updates and Windows Update
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/upd...ouncement.mspx
If needed, install the Internet Explorer 7 Blocker Toolkit to block automatic delivery
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=65788
Use the following additional resources to investigate and resolve compatibility issues:
Visit MSDN (msdn.microsoft.com/ie) for supporting information
Visit the IE team blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/) to research, make inquiries, and provide feedback
Microsoft recommends that enterprises are prepared for automatic delivery by November 1st

Graham M 18-10-2006 21:51
Re: IE7 full release
 
Roger that.

Wicked_and_Crazy 18-10-2006 23:17
Re: IE7 full release
 
certainly appears quicker than one of the beta versions i had and then got rid off

Gareth 18-10-2006 23:34
Re: IE7 full release
 
And www.ie7.com ? ;)

Wicked_and_Crazy 18-10-2006 23:42
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34139825)
And www.ie7.com ? ;)
echo echo

tick 19-10-2006 00:08
Re: IE7 full release
 
thanks for that .
seems faster

greencreeper 19-10-2006 00:29
Re: IE7 full release
 
God help us in support - I can imagine the chaos and carnage :mis:

danielf 19-10-2006 01:01
Re: IE7 full release
 
hmmmm, takes a little getting used to. I suppose the font needs to grow on you. And why have 'refresh' and 'stop' moved away from 'back' and forward' Surely, it makes sense to have all navigation buttons in one place?

Paul K 19-10-2006 07:55
Re: IE7 full release
 
It's hit the IE7 site now so you can get the official linkages
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

Bill C 19-10-2006 08:16
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34139927)
It's hit the IE7 site now so you can get the official linkages
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx
Thanks :tu:

TheBlueRaja 19-10-2006 09:45
Re: IE7 full release
 
Strange - no WGA check - i wonder why... :D

vbnmu 19-10-2006 11:19
Re: IE7 full release
 
That was real quick! cheers for the update....y don't they make it immediately available on auto update tho?

Stuart 19-10-2006 11:22
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnmu (Post 34139975)
That was real quick! cheers for the update....y don't they make it immediately available on auto update tho?
To give companies a chance to test their website (and other products) with the final release of IE7.

vbnmu 19-10-2006 12:21
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34139976)
To give companies a chance to test their website (and other products) with the final release of IE7.
Oh...okie! But with the auto update set for 1st november, would they have enough time to test everything? Does Microsoft actualy contact them to inform them?
Am sorry for silly questions but i kindda like to know things, be it anything but gossiping!

banjo 19-10-2006 12:28
Re: IE7 full release
 
Those of you that are using IE7 can you tell me what the pros and cons are of changing from IE6 ?

vbnmu 19-10-2006 12:32
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjo (Post 34140002)
Those of you that are using IE7 can you tell me what the pros and cons are of changing from IE6 ?
A major one being the Tab function that is common to Firefox and Opera users.n The quick tab function is rather funny! :)
U even get to customize yr search bar, which was rather cool in Mozilla. Its ability to block pop ups and active x and inform you in a more intuitive way. In general i find it better than IE6!

Paul K 19-10-2006 12:42
Re: IE7 full release
 
Multi tabbing, phishing filter, increased security.

alexcopeland 19-10-2006 12:47
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjo (Post 34140002)
Those of you that are using IE7 can you tell me what the pros and cons are of changing from IE6 ?

Go to the IE7 microsoft website, it's all there.

vbnmu 19-10-2006 12:49
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexcopeland (Post 34140014)
Go to the IE7 microsoft website, it's all there.
Lol....he wanted a personal opinion am sure!!! :doh:

banjo 19-10-2006 13:06
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnmu (Post 34140016)
Lol....he wanted a personal opinion am sure!!! :doh:
Thats right, I would trust your real world usage over MS blurb, I did look on the MS sight before posting but it does not tell you about real world problems.

snowey 19-10-2006 13:28
Re: IE7 full release
 
;) Me too, waiting for some reviews, from our well informed members :) :)

vbnmu 19-10-2006 14:15
Re: IE7 full release
 
I havn't had much issues so far. not with the beta version anyway. Only downloaded final version today.
I can't c much cons. it needs getting used to as it has a lot of difference compared to IE6. But that shouldn't take u long. My only problem so far has been Windows Live Mail.
Am not sure y my connection has slowed down either, especially when am cheking my email.
I need to look further into that.

Stuart 19-10-2006 14:17
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnmu (Post 34139996)
Oh...okie! But with the auto update set for 1st november, would they have enough time to test everything? Does Microsoft actualy contact them to inform them?
Am sorry for silly questions but i kindda like to know things, be it anything but gossiping!
No problem about the questions. There have been betas of IE7 around for months, and anything that works with those should work with the final version, but I suspect that Microsoft have delayed the auto update to give everyone a chance to ensure their systems are ready.

vbnmu 19-10-2006 14:26
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34140097)
No problem about the questions. There have been betas of IE7 around for months, and anything that works with those should work with the final version, but I suspect that Microsoft have delayed the auto update to give everyone a chance to ensure their systems are ready.
Fair enough...I only knew about IE7 beta around a month ago!
But why do they stop supporting previous version of windows. e.g Win2k! It only came out 6yrs ago. And Xp came out 1 or 2 yrs after, so realy Win2K is 4-5 yrs old. I would understand Win98 and Win ME.

Talking of which...it reminds me that Win ME once existed!! seems so long ago.

Am not sure abt IE7 but Widows Live Messenger and the last 2 versions of WMP didn't comply with Win2K!

jtwn 19-10-2006 14:32
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34139943)
Strange - no WGA check - i wonder why... :D
Oh but it does. Won't be too long till thats not a problem though, unless it already isn't.

AndrewJ 19-10-2006 18:02
Re: IE7 full release
 
The runonce msn site you get on first open is running rather slow :rofl:

---------- Post added at 17:02 ---------- Previous post was at 16:55 ----------

Actually the runonce msn site is completly down right now...and causing my ie7 to crash.

Ahhh well out comes trusty Firefox 2 RC3 to help :D

Stuart 19-10-2006 18:03
Re: IE7 full release
 
Well, they've started quickly...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/19/ie7_first_bug/

AndrewJ 19-10-2006 18:06
Re: IE7 full release
 
Got in the runonce site and all is calm and smooth again.

As for bugs it was longer than I expected

j52c 19-10-2006 18:50
Re: IE7 full release
 
Sorry if I have missed something here, but where has the 'Check mail' button gone?

AndrewJ 19-10-2006 19:41
Re: IE7 full release
 
Don't know never used it, only thing I've noticed is that it seems slower loading signatures then in IE6,

mrm1 19-10-2006 20:40
Re: IE7 full release
 
Just gone to the IE7 page and Avast ?Anti virus is warning me

http://rad.microsoft.com/ADSAdClient...&SC=F3&AP=1164 contains the VBS:Zulu worm

Should I be worried or is a a false positive?

Wicked_and_Crazy 19-10-2006 20:48
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34140254)
and i suppose they didnt find that on the beta versions :rolleyes:

greencreeper 19-10-2006 20:57
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34140353)
and i suppose they didnt find that on the beta versions :rolleyes:
Maybe this is the final beta we're testing ;)

MadGamer 19-10-2006 22:01
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrm1 (Post 34140343)
Just gone to the IE7 page and Avast ?Anti virus is warning me

http://rad.microsoft.com/ADSAdClient...&SC=F3&AP=1164 contains the VBS:Zulu worm

Should I be worried or is a a false positive?
I got that warning too, I'm also using Avast. I ran a scan and it didn't pick anything up.

homealone 19-10-2006 22:25
Re: IE7 full release
 
It renders the 'nthellworld.co.uk' front page to the full width of the screen on my widescreen monitor, where firefox (2.0 RC3) displays big margins, so that is good.

I turned cleartype off, but I'm still not sure about the font?

The RSS feeds feature looks very good - still playing with that.

ADd 19-10-2006 22:45
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrm1 (Post 34140343)
Just gone to the IE7 page and Avast ?Anti virus is warning me

http://rad.microsoft.com/ADSAdClient...&SC=F3&AP=1164 contains the VBS:Zulu worm

Should I be worried or is a a false positive?
Most likely a FP, has happened to me before with Avast on other pages. Avast have a forum here:
http://forum.avast.com/
or you can email the support page with info is here:
http://www.avast.com/eng/technical_support.html

They may already know, but is worth dropping them a line just in case. Usually they test the issue, and update promptly. If you send an email, in my experience, they contact you to let you know if it has been resolved.

Haven't given IE 7 a go at the moment, but will probably try it first on a Virtual PC, as there may well be a few bugs even after an alpha release comes out

jingleman 19-10-2006 23:02
Re: IE7 full release
 
Anyone got problems with the text being blurred?

It's been a problem for me on each of the betas, but I read on some official blog a while ago it would be fixed for final release.

Graphics card is ASUS 9520, (GeForce FX 5200 series) which is fine for my needs, and problems only occur in IE7 and Outlook. If I revert to IE6 text is fine.

Cheers

homealone 19-10-2006 23:10
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jingleman (Post 34140476)
Anyone got problems with the text being blurred?

It's been a problem for me on each of the betas, but I read on some official blog a while ago it would be fixed for final release.

Graphics card is ASUS 9520, (GeForce FX 5200 series) which is fine for my needs, and problems only occur in IE7 and Outlook. If I revert to IE6 text is fine.

Cheers
did you get taken to the 'run-once' website when you first launched the browser, jingleman? - when I was, I disabled cleartype, and text looks less 'blurry', now ?

I haven't found that option in the 'options' yet, though???

vbnmu 19-10-2006 23:23
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34140485)
did you get taken to the 'run-once' website when you first launched the browser, jingleman? - when I was, I disabled cleartype, and text looks less 'blurry', now ?

I haven't found that option in the 'options' yet, though???
uhhhh...that's exactly what i was goin to ask u guys. Any idea where i could turn cleartype off? I activated it during setup.

jingleman 19-10-2006 23:25
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34140485)
did you get taken to the 'run-once' website when you first launched the browser, jingleman? - when I was, I disabled cleartype, and text looks less 'blurry', now ?

I haven't found that option in the 'options' yet, though???
My run-once didn't run earlier on (think it was too busy)!

I have found the setting in options/advanced/multimedia and un-checked it, still not brilliant though.

I have also found this link (good old Google):

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/02/03/524367.aspx

I'm logging off now, will perhaps play more over the weekend

homealone 19-10-2006 23:41
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jingleman (Post 34140506)
My run-once didn't run earlier on (think it was too busy)!

I have found the setting in options/advanced/multimedia and un-checked it, still not brilliant though.

I have also found this link (good old Google):

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/02/03/524367.aspx

I'm logging off now, will perhaps play more over the weekend
thanks :tu:

Matth 20-10-2006 00:11
Re: IE7 full release
 
Cleartype (sub pixel rendering) should only be enabled for LCD... best if it's a DVI LCD, but usable with VGA-connected LCD. The tuning toy http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ePowerToy.mspx has options to enable, disable and adjust two parameters.

Expert mode: RGB / BGR stripe pattern = Wizard mode - which looks best (out of two)?
Expert mode: Contrast = Wizard mode (more samples).

vbnmu 20-10-2006 01:17
Re: IE7 full release
 
Cheers Matth...
That was handy!

opelfruitcase 20-10-2006 01:50
Re: IE7 full release
 
I know i'm a little late in putting my 4p's worth in, but I've found it of less use than infertile male emission. It constantly seems to whinge that it cant find the site your trying to get to (no probs with internet connection, and this is tested through no proxy and a transparent proxy on localhost) and I know the connection is rock solid. It seems to barf everytime you go to sneeze (and given I have a cold thats hell of a lot!). Plus in other, general areas (such as the about... dbox) it gives the impression this is still not a polished product - indeed this is less stable than the beta release I tried, maybe MS posted an alpha version in error instead of the final version? It really seems thats bad.

gaffer_gump 20-10-2006 08:23
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
My run-once didn't run earlier on (think it was too busy)!

I have found the setting in options/advanced/multimedia and un-checked it, still not brilliant though.
Nice one, thank you, it's loads better now :tu:

TheBlueRaja 20-10-2006 09:21
Re: IE7 full release
 
Froze up on me last night with 100% CPU utilization.

Seems a good browser but a lack of advert blocking and plugin support makes it a nono for me other than a security update.

Paul K 20-10-2006 09:27
Re: IE7 full release
 
Yep. Must admit the ad-block is my main issue with it, not had a lock up yet with it but then I'm on a recent clean XP install so I've not butchered my files yet lol Even through it's RC release phase I didn't have many issues with lockups or processor usage though, obviously though each persons' PC is different and will react differently due to hardware/ software/ tweaking situations.

TheBlueRaja 20-10-2006 09:29
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34140665)
Yep. Must admit the ad-block is my main issue with it, not had a lock up yet with it but then I'm on a recent clean XP install so I've not butchered my files yet lol Even through it's RC release phase I didn't have many issues with lockups or processor usage though, obviously though each persons' PC is different and will react differently due to hardware/ software/ tweaking situations.
Neither did i in the RC's to be honest, it went to 100% CPU upon accessing the Runonce page on first load and stayed there.

Im putting it down to a one off for the moment.

Paul K 20-10-2006 09:33
Re: IE7 full release
 
Must admit that runonce problem hit me but then I just took that as being because I was trying to install and run IE at the same time as everyone else lol

TheBlueRaja 20-10-2006 09:35
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34140670)
Must admit that runonce problem hit me but then I just took that as being because I was trying to install and run IE at the same time as everyone else lol
That will be what it was - just a server getting hammered i would doubt the same thing happened to you (well i hope so anyway).

I think something happened between IE7 and the server which caused IE7 to go to full CPU, i confirmed it by CTRL-ALT-DELETE'ing and looking at the processes. IE7 was sitting there at 99%.

Gareth 20-10-2006 12:13
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34140353)
and i suppose they didnt find that on the beta versions :rolleyes:
er, but it was reported to Microsoft almost 6 months ago. :rolleyes:

http://secunia.com/advisories/19738/

Tuftus 20-10-2006 13:52
Re: IE7 full release
 
Has anyone got a direct linky for the download from Microsoft?

Our system at work will not let me get past

http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssitp...mrt/direct/01/

from the Microsoft front page...

tia

zing_deleted 20-10-2006 13:54
Re: IE7 full release
 
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/IE_7_Windows_XP_SP2_B download link for sp2 :)

FCC 20-10-2006 14:07
Re: IE7 full release
 
It is very unstable, it crashes every time that I use it on certain "ie only" sites.

I am currently removing it... what a junk...

Tuftus 20-10-2006 14:10
Re: IE7 full release
 
Cheers Zingle, unfortunately the ISA server denied that one too and Softpedia is way too slow, like 6kb slow.

Chris 20-10-2006 14:21
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
The final release of Internet Explorer 7 should be available today and will be delivered to customers via Automatic Updates starting November 1st. Prior to deployment of IE 7, we strongly recommend that you test your Web sites, extensions, and applications to make sure they are ready. Microsoft recommends that Web sites and applications are ready for the release of Internet Explorer 7 this month.
Arrogant *******! Talk about putting the cart before the horse. I thought the job of a web browser was to render properly coded websites, not to demand that websites are re-written to allow for the browser!

Stuart 20-10-2006 14:31
Re: IE7 full release
 
IE7 does usually allow properly coded sites to display properly. It's those that are coded to take advantage of the way IE6 and below do things that will cause problems.

Based upon my own testing, if a site works in Firefox or Opera, it *should* work in IE7.

Paul K 20-10-2006 14:53
Re: IE7 full release
 
FCC what sites are crashing it for you? I've got a clean install at home I can test the browser on those sites to see if it is the browser.

FCC 20-10-2006 16:12
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34140846)
FCC what sites are crashing it for you? I've got a clean install at home I can test the browser on those sites to see if it is the browser.
It's my stockbrocker's site, you need to login to test....

In IE, I have to enable "Access data sources across domains" in order to make it work. In ie7, it crashes pronto, in ie6 no problem.

Does anyone now how to enable "Access data sources across domains" in ff?

greencreeper 20-10-2006 19:35
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34140822)
Based upon my own testing, if a site works in Firefox or Opera, it *should* work in IE7.
So that's the majority of websites that won't display properly then :erm:

bringerofnoise 21-10-2006 17:56
Re: IE7 full release
 
i started out coding for internet explorer then obviously found out that i should code for other browsers and then fix IE's bugs, why they all can't just make a browser that conforms to standard coding practices is wierd to me

drdaws 22-10-2006 14:12
Re: IE7 full release
 
I am unable to open HP Director with IE7.

nffc 22-10-2006 14:14
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drdaws (Post 34142045)
I am unable to open HP Director with IE7.
Yeah, I read about that on DigitalS*ite.

Paul K 22-10-2006 14:31
Re: IE7 full release
 
Been a known problem since July so no doubt it's being worked on, whether HP will fix it or whether they will just leave it to MS to sort it out I don't know but it has been mentioned on the IE7 MSN Blogs.
Supposedly a HP fix here but by all accounts they haven't done much to make their software compatible with IE7 even though MS gave them it for development purposes when they gave it to other manufacturers.
MS Groups

Web-Junkie 22-10-2006 17:39
Re: IE7 full release
 
Just installed this today, no problems so far with the sites I usually visit and it does appear to be quicker, unusual for M$?

Didn't like the menu bar being in the middle so found a fix on another site to put it back to the top:

Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser]
"ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001
Just exit IE7, paste the above text to a .reg file and import it then run IE7 again.

jellybaby 22-10-2006 18:23
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Web-Junkie (Post 34142184)
Just installed this today, no problems so far with the sites I usually visit and it does appear to be quicker, unusual for M$?

Didn't like the menu bar being in the middle so found a fix on another site to put it back to the top:

Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser]
"ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001
Just exit IE7, paste the above text to a .reg file and import it then run IE7 again.

Cheers for that :)
Didn't work by importing it, but added it to the registry manually at its done the trick :tu:

Web-Junkie 22-10-2006 18:53
Re: IE7 full release
 
Strange, it worked for me? Not to worry at least you sorted it out.

Dad's virus 22-10-2006 19:12
Re: IE7 full release
 
Does the ie7 has any features that Firefox does not have? I just installed it and I do not like it...

vbnmu 23-10-2006 00:35
Re: IE7 full release
 
Cheers...edited registry manually and its much better now. :tu:

Simcut 23-10-2006 03:21
Re: IE7 full release
 
bugger.....my ie7 install doesnt work for me.... I know why though, wanted to try it as well! :-(

Web-Junkie 23-10-2006 16:14
Re: IE7 full release
 
One thing they have missed is the ability to open a link in a new tab when using the Menu Bar > Favorites dropdown box, you can't launch links from there into a new tab :( so you have to manually open a new tab, click it then use the Menu Bar > Favorites to launch you link.

I don't like using the little star on the left to open the Favorites Center, it just seems too cumbersome and slow.

Simcut 23-10-2006 16:35
Re: IE7 full release
 
well..... i managed to install it and it made my system go nuts....I rebooted and it came up with a "couldnt find Normaliz.dll" and I LUCKILY knew what I was doing, because it was preventing me from going into explorer.exe !!!

In the end I had to download the .dll off the net (thank god I loaded Mozilla as a task manually through task manager)

Very dodgy :(

j52c 23-10-2006 16:41
Re: IE7 full release
 
Tell you one thing I noticed.

When I run the speed test, the box that opens is transparent and only turns to normal when the result is displayed.

I updated Sun java, maybe I have to update from Windows Update now.

Chris 23-10-2006 16:42
Re: IE7 full release
 
Take someone else's great idea > make it slightly clunky > push it like h€ll to ensure marketing, not merit, grants it dominance.

Nice to see the familiar Microshaft business model in full swing again.

BTW, how big is the download?

Simcut 23-10-2006 17:13
Re: IE7 full release
 
microshaft - lol ! quality...

Web-Junkie 23-10-2006 17:28
Re: IE7 full release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34142772)
Take someone else's great idea > make it slightly clunky > push it like h€ll to ensure marketing, not merit, grants it dominance.

Nice to see the familiar Microshaft business model in full swing again.

BTW, how big is the download?
14.8mb for the XP SP2 one I downloaded.

greencreeper 24-10-2006 19:39
Re: IE7 full release
 
The blocker download includes an admin template so you can deploy it via group policy - very handy

AndrewJ 24-10-2006 19:44
Re: IE7 full release
 
I've barely a problem with IE7 runs smooth, has never crashed, deals with adverts fine for me, mind you half you lot likely going to dodgy sites eh :naughty:

Chrysalis 27-10-2006 06:07
Re: IE7 full release
 
Well I have upgraded and I think they have made a massive cock up.

1 - The interface has changed completly with by default the menu been hard to find and the toolbars layed out in a different order. Its a big mistake to suddenly change a interface that your userbase is used to, wonder how people will react when winupdate puts IE7 silently next month.

2 - Limited customisation of the layout cant move toolbars around freely and no skinning.

3 - Tabs limited to 1 row, this is very poor I went to transfer the 40 odd tabs I have loaded in maxthon to IE7 thinking finally I dont need to use 3rd party for IE browsing but how wrong was I, by using 1 row unless you dont mind not seeing all your tab titles at once its limited to about 10 tabs per window on a 1280x1024 screen res.

4 - Poor cache performance, this could have been improved to catch up with opera but wasnt.

On the upside it seems to have a lower memory footprint and is noticeably faster then IE6, havent noticed any websites loading wrong yet. However I have disabled the tabbed mode, I managed to find a way to get the menu bar back that is possible but hard to find the option. Still trying to get used to the new buttons tho.

vbnmu 28-10-2006 00:42
Re: IE7 full release
 
am having download problems with IE7. Wheneva i try to download something, the 'open-save' window comes up but it neva actually downloads it.
I can choose to save the file but the download progress window doesn't come up n it doesn't save the file anywhere.
anyone got an idea?

P.s: i dnt have no such problems with firefox.

Chrysalis 28-10-2006 03:33
Re: IE7 full release
 
IE7 crashed twice for me yesterday.

once on my online banking site and another on a forum.

Web-Junkie 29-10-2006 01:08
Re: IE7 full release
 
Had a crash going to Winamp.com in getflash.dll (part of Flashget download manager), disabled it then re-enabled it and it didn't crash the second time I went to Winamp.com!

So far the things I don't like in IE7:

1. No ability to open links from 'Classic Menu Bar > Favorites' in a new TAB.
2. Right clicking on a link in 'Classic Menu Bar > Favorites' and choosing 'properties' pops the properties box under IE7, not on top, so you have to minimize IE7 to see the properties box. This does not happen if you use the 'Favorites Center'.
3. No ability to open FTP sites in 'Folder View' inside IE7.
4. No 'snap off' toolbars/buttons so you can't move them where you want.
5. The First TAB (the one you can't close) would be nice to have a close option like all the other TABS, but using this 'close' button' should just load a blank page or your default homepage.
6. No option to open the first link in a 'TAB Group' in the First TAB if no web page is loaded there.
7. Better crash protection if a site/add on causes IE to crash, just shut the problem page down not the whole browser.
8. Phishing filter, I see this as a way for M$ to track all the websites you visit under the disguise of 'safety', thankfully it can be turned OFF!!

Things I do like:

1. TABS, obviously as it's IE7's main feature and helps prevent loads of separate IE instances that hog resources.
2. Zoom option for webpages, helps spot that elusive 'smallprint' on NTL's websites :)
3. Ability to use your favourite search engine by default, not forced into using the M$ one.
4. RSS Feeds, not that I use them but always nice to see it implemented.
5. Overall Stability for a major release, only crashes from 3rd party plugins observed so far, but better crash protection needed as stated in 7. above!
6. Not too difficult a learning curve, just need to comb the options to find/tweak the extra settings.

I'd give it 8.5/10 as it still does most of what I want it to do!

Chrysalis 29-10-2006 06:02
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yeah i reenabled tabs now, dont use it as a main tabbed browser but does help to tidy up the task bar still as I used to have 3 or 4 seperate IE windows open.

I will be uninstalling google toobar now it has its own google bar which may make it stable.

Hugh 29-10-2006 12:05
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Works fine for me - had no problems.

ADd 31-10-2006 01:54
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Another one, not as critical this time, can't wait for the security Vista will afford us all.

http://secunia.com/advisories/22628/

Quote:
A vulnerability has been discovered in Internet Explorer 7, which can be exploited by malicious people to spoof the content of websites.

The problem is that a website can inject content into another site's window if the target name of the window is known. This can e.g. be exploited by a malicious website to spoof the content of a pop-up window opened on a trusted website.

This is related to:
SA13251

Secunia has constructed a test, which can be used to check if your browser is affected by this issue:
http://secunia.com/multiple_browsers...rability_test/

The vulnerability has been confirmed on a fully patched system with Internet Explorer 7.0 and Microsoft Windows XP SP2.

Solution:
Do not browse untrusted sites while browsing trusted sites.
:D

Chrysalis 31-10-2006 12:53
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another annoyance with IE7

when closing a tab it goes to the last tab instead of the previously active tab. standard behaviour in all tabbed browsers I have used maxthon, opera and avant all goto last used tab.

Also it isnt saving preferences when I quit I have to keep ticking reopen same tabs it doest stay ticked.

jrhnewark 31-10-2006 13:05
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What a load of crap IE7 is.

I made the grave mistake on putting it on my girlfriend's PC a few days ago. She hates the UI and half the websites she wants don't load (including my site, http://jrh.holmemoss.co.uk).

IE7 thinks there's some terrible connection error on that site and loads of others. Any ideas?

I can't believe how MS are just giving the game to Mozilla.

dilli-theclaw 31-10-2006 13:30
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Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 34147829)
What a load of crap IE7 is.

I made the grave mistake on putting it on my girlfriend's PC a few days ago. She hates the UI and half the websites she wants don't load (including my site, http://jrh.holmemoss.co.uk).

IE7 thinks there's some terrible connection error on that site and loads of others. Any ideas?

I can't believe how MS are just giving the game to Mozilla.
Loaded fine here once I sorted the link out.

jrhnewark 31-10-2006 13:48
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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 34147843)
Loaded fine here once I sorted the link out.
It loads fine for me too. However, my girlfriend's router is flaky (well, it was made by Belkin..), and I have a funny feeling that IE7 is a bit too sensitive to it. It's just all a bit odd.

nffc 31-10-2006 14:22
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Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 34147858)
It loads fine for me too. However, my girlfriend's router is flaky (well, it was made by Belkin..), and I have a funny feeling that IE7 is a bit too sensitive to it. It's just all a bit odd.
Loads fine here - via a Belkin! Take it you've checked her PC for all the usual suspects... though quite why she'd want to look at pr0n when she has a BF
:LOL:

jrhnewark 31-10-2006 14:44
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Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34147884)
Loads fine here - via a Belkin! Take it you've checked her PC for all the usual suspects... though quite why she'd want to look at pr0n when she has a BF
:LOL:
Well, given what she used this laptop for the other night... (Thank God she's never heard of Cable Forum :D)

I've checked it completely. In fact, it's a brand new PC, so the XP installation's still fresh. I'm going to have to do some serious sorting of it soon - there's obviously a serious problem with it somewhere, and I'm convinced it's this sodding router. Time to plug the ADSL modem back in soon, methinks, and see if it makes any difference.

(Sadly, she lives in South East London, and I'm not going to be down there for another week and a half. And I daren't ask her to try and troubleshoot. ;))

nffc 31-10-2006 14:48
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No chance of remote desktop then? :S

jrhnewark 31-10-2006 14:56
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Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34147905)
No chance of remote desktop then? :S
Mmm, good point. I think I'll remote desktop to install RealVNC and then I can fix things while she's out. Muhahah. :D

Chrysalis 01-11-2006 07:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 34147829)
What a load of crap IE7 is.

I made the grave mistake on putting it on my girlfriend's PC a few days ago. She hates the UI and half the websites she wants don't load (including my site, http://jrh.holmemoss.co.uk).

IE7 thinks there's some terrible connection error on that site and loads of others. Any ideas?

I can't believe how MS are just giving the game to Mozilla.
the ui change is going to bite them in the backside, what you said is what I expected.

AndrewJ 01-11-2006 09:31
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I had to remove IE7 due to it's terrible cpu overusage on bootup on my computer.

jrhnewark 01-11-2006 10:38
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Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion (Post 34148487)
I had to remove IE7 due to it's terrible cpu overusage on bootup on my computer.
Have you managed to go back to IE6? I'm not sure if that's possible, but I'd like to do it.

Chrysalis 01-11-2006 13:51
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is it in add/remove programs?

Paul K 01-11-2006 20:37
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IE was hitting your CPU on boot up?
And yes it should be in add/remove listed as Windows Internet Explorer or you can try system restore.

Chrysalis 02-11-2006 05:39
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could have been svchost.exe auto update service, micorsoft update has a nasty bug.

Paul K 02-11-2006 07:18
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There is a way of checking what is using SVCHost.exe from a cmd prompt, might help people figure out what service is stuffing SVC up.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314056
Quote:
To view the list of services that are running in Svchost: 1. Click Start on the Windows taskbar, and then click Run.
2. In the Open box, type CMD, and then press ENTER.
3. Type Tasklist /SVC, and then press ENTER.
Tasklist displays a list of active processes. The /SVC switch shows the list of active services in each process. For more information about a process, type the following command, and then press ENTER:
Tasklist /FI "PID eq processID" (with the quotation marks)
You can download tasklist from here and drop it in your windows folder for future use if you have XP home as it only comes in Pro.


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