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marky 11-08-2005 21:15

amd duron 900 overclocking
 
my kids have got a pc and ive bean thinking about a new cpu
but for the moment i want to o/c it
its a amd duron 900 on a asrock amd-via socket a mobo
any ideas please :D

Roy MM 11-08-2005 21:18

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Will this help:- http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...00/default.asp

marky 11-08-2005 21:23

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Originally Posted by Roy MM

it tells me it can be done but i dont know how:dunce:
yep i'm thick

Gareth 11-08-2005 22:07

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it's a bit old, but there's an article at Tom's Hardware that I read ages ago that describes how you overclock a cpu.


edit: found it... http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20000623/index.html

iron25 11-08-2005 22:16

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It all depends on the motherboard & bios you have. In the old days you would have to set various jumpers on the motherboard to increase the speed of the cpu but alot of motherboards allow you to do the same thing via the bios. If you've got the manual that came with the motherboard it should give you an idea of what you can and cannot do with the motherboard.

marky 11-08-2005 22:18

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Originally Posted by Gareth
it's a bit old, but there's an article at Tom's Hardware that I read ages ago that describes how you overclock a cpu.


edit: found it... http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20000623/index.html

so i up the cpu voltage a bit its a new mobo no jumpers :confused:

Roy MM 11-08-2005 22:28

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On a cautionary heads up it's all at your own risk, i would never overclock.

marky 11-08-2005 22:30

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Originally Posted by Roy MM
On a cautionary heads up it's all at your own risk, i would never overclock.

no worries mate its an old cpu anyway better going out like a tiger
than living like a worm :D

Gareth 11-08-2005 22:34

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Originally Posted by markymoan
so i up the cpu voltage a bit its a new mobo no jumpers :confused:

Yeah, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Increase it too much and it'll be unstable, so it's very much a case of trial and error.

marky 11-08-2005 22:40

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thanks guys i shall give it a go in the morning :disturbd:

Gareth 11-08-2005 22:55

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Heh, Comet opens at 9:00 in case you need to get yer kids a replacement 'puter unexpectedly :Yikes:

marky 11-08-2005 23:01

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Originally Posted by Gareth
Heh, Comet opens at 9:00 in case you need to get yer kids a replacement 'puter unexpectedly :Yikes:

burn baby burn (good song):D

Roy MM 11-08-2005 23:05

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I over clocked my old 95 machine for fun, :erm: Nov 5th was a damp squib, funny tho :D

Richard M 11-08-2005 23:33

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Turn the FSB up by 10MHz, that's all you need to do.

marky 11-08-2005 23:35

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Originally Posted by Richard M
Turn the FSB up by 10MHz, that's all you need to do.

THANK YOU :angel:

zing_deleted 11-08-2005 23:36

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I take it being on an asrock board that its newer than the cpu ;) mulitplier will be locked on the cpu so your totally dependant on fsb.also i would imagine its a 100 fsb or 133?? on a clock mulitiplier of 9 or 6? Did you have to underclock the board?? What ram are you using as this could have an effect.

If it is on a newer board and your using ddr the only restraints I can see will be either temp of cpu or cpu threshold reached. Up the fsb in 5's at first if instability is reached before to high a temp find vcore and up this a point or 2

I may be off track on the asrock but I cant remember them past a couple of years ago

marky 11-08-2005 23:52

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
I take it being on an asrock board that its newer than the cpu ;) mulitplier will be locked on the cpu so your totally dependant on fsb.also i would imagine its a 100 fsb or 133?? on a clock mulitiplier of 9 or 6? Did you have to underclock the board?? What ram are you using as this could have an effect.

If it is on a newer board and your using ddr the only restraints I can see will be either temp of cpu or cpu threshold reached. Up the fsb in 5's at first if instability is reached before to high a temp find vcore and up this a point or 2

I may be off track on the asrock but I cant remember them past a couple of years ago

the mobo is a asrock k7vm2:erm:

zing_deleted 11-08-2005 23:58

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Originally Posted by markymoan
the mobo is a asrock k7vm2:erm:

So its a ddr board what ram are you using??

marky 11-08-2005 23:59

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
So its a ddr board what ram are you using??

2100 ddr

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 00:01

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Just googled the chip runs on an fsb of 100 mhz, Im guess at the least your pc has pc2100 running at 266 so this gives you a threshold of 33 mhz fsb before you clock you ram. This times multiplier of 9 is a max overclock of 297 mhz before the ram clocks.I doubt you will get anywhere near this so have fun trying :D :D

if you have a bigger heatsink and fan bung it on ,remember when it first crashes up the vcore a touch if temp is still ok (make sure it is only a touch )

marky 12-08-2005 00:14

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
Just googled the chip runs on an fsb of 100 mhz, Im guess at the least your pc has pc2100 running at 266 so this gives you a threshold of 33 mhz fsb before you clock you ram. This times multiplier of 9 is a max overclock of 297 mhz before the ram clocks.I doubt you will get anywhere near this so have fun trying :D :D

if you have a bigger heatsink and fan bung it on ,remember when it first crashes up the vcore a touch if temp is still ok (make sure it is only a touch )

got the setup screen and got the cpu host frequency and the sdram frequency up what next the sdram is set at 100 but gives a 133 option the cpu is set as auto but gives a manual option :dunce:

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 00:17

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Originally Posted by markymoan
got the setup screen and got the cpu host frequency and the sdram frequency up what next the sdram is set at 100 but gives a 133 option the cpu is set as auto but gives a manual option :dunce:

The ram is 133 but leave it as it is(reason for this is each up in the fsb will result in raising of fsb of the ram overclocking the ram can be avoided by starting it at 100 mhz).

Change the cpu to manual and up the fsb 5 ,reboot. If it runs up another 5 at this point stress test,I would use cpuz or prime95 for 15 mins should be enough,then if all is well and not to hot up it in steps .

If the machine refuses to boot just jumper the cmos and start again. this time up the vcore 1 step see how far it goes,I would have thought you would make 1gig but you never know how high it will go. Watch the temp very important this

marky 12-08-2005 00:23

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
The ram is 133 but leave it as it is(reason for this is each up in the fsb will result in raising of fsb of the ram overclocking the ram can be avoided by starting it at 100 mhz).

Change the cpu to manual and up the fsb 5 ,reboot. If it runs up another 5 at this point stress test,I would use cpuz or prime95 for 15 mins should be enough,then if all is well and not to hot up it in steps .

If the machine refuses to boot just jumper the cmos and start again. this time up the vcore 1 step see how far it goes,I would have thought you would make 1gig but you never know how high it will go. Watch the temp very important this

the cpu is set at 100 so do i go for 105 or just go for it :Yikes:
only joking reebooting now:)

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 00:25

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Originally Posted by markymoan
the cpu is set at 100 so do i go for 105 or just go for it :Yikes:
only joking reebooting now:)

Ill be shocked if it crashes here :)

marky 12-08-2005 00:30

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
Ill be shocked if it crashes here :)

105 gives it 945 what do you think:erm:

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 00:30

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Originally Posted by markymoan
105 gives it 945 what do you think:erm:

upto you remember each increase is multiplied by 9 what temp is that giving??


you need another 6 to reach the gig ;) (well 999 )

At this point I have to disclaimer myself just in case ;)

marky 12-08-2005 00:36

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
upto you remember each increase is multiplied by 9 what temp is that giving??


you need another 6 to reach the gig ;) (well 999 )

At this point I have to disclaimer myself just in case ;)

48 c or 118 f :)

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 00:38

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Originally Posted by markymoan
48 c or 118 f :)

go for it then but stress test if you goto 10 then measure temps.

marky 12-08-2005 00:41

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
go for it then but stress test if you goto 10 then measure temps.

what temp max on idle do you think :confused:

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 00:43

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Originally Posted by markymoan
what temp max on idle do you think :confused:

I would be more concerned that it jumps to high underload. Do you have a bigger heatsink /fan to throw at it add extra cooling??? If it gets hotter than say 60 under load its to hot.I remember the older athlons and durons running quite hot and being safe

marky 12-08-2005 01:06

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
I would be more concerned that it jumps to high underload. Do you have a bigger heatsink /fan to throw at it add extra cooling??? If it gets hotter than say 60 under load its to hot.I remember the older athlons and durons running quite hot and being safe

got it at 999mhz runs fine temp still same tried it at over a gig and it wouldnt boot so i put it back to 999 i tried the incredibles game on it and its fine so another big thank you :D

zing_deleted 12-08-2005 08:20

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Originally Posted by markymoan
got it at 999mhz runs fine temp still same tried it at over a gig and it wouldnt boot so i put it back to 999 i tried the incredibles game on it and its fine so another big thank you :D

You could creep it up a little further if you raise the vcore slightly,This is a little more advanced and a lot more risky but by rights you should get away with a couple of points.If your happy with it as it is leave it its over 10% clocked now :) well done anyway :)

Matth 12-08-2005 23:54

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If you want a large chunk of performance added, this may be an option
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=55333

According to the CPU support list, a Duron 1800 seems to be supported, and unlike the old Duron 900, this is based on the XP core, with SSE support - and THIS Duron is a 266FSB CPU, so it makes good use of DDR2100 RAM speed

The next 266FSB CPU they have is more than twice the price, as 266FSB versions are becoming rare, with the Socket A Semprons running at 333FSB

If you want an upgrade CPU for that board, you need to decide pretty soon!

marky 12-08-2005 23:58

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Originally Posted by Matth

If you want an upgrade CPU for that board, you need to decide pretty soon!

yeh i know the funny thing is places like pc world are still selling pcs with socket a mobos :td:

marky 13-08-2005 02:10

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thinking of doing this one now :devsmoke:

zing_deleted 13-08-2005 07:57

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You appear to have one of the very early Asrock mobos there.Originaly Asrock and Asus had ties together something that for some reason Asus had broken all ties and does not acknowledge Asrock anymore :)

marky 13-08-2005 13:58

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
You appear to have one of the very early Asrock mobos there.Originaly Asrock and Asus had ties together something that for some reason Asus had broken all ties and does not acknowledge Asrock anymore :)

its a asus mobo in a fujitsu scaleo L the screenshot shows the specs "sort of"
but i had the cd in from the kids pc the asrock "beer again"
i'll get the details and come back :) thanks

Matth 13-08-2005 22:57

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Originally Posted by markymoan
yeh i know the funny thing is places like pc world are still selling pcs with socket a mobos :td:

No shortage of Sempron (SktA) CPUs, but they all run with a 333 FSB.

For motherboards with only 200FSB, it's doubtful that anty 200FSB processors can be found, other than secondhand (risky) or perhaps the odd old-stock Duron (Morgan core).
For 266 FSB, there may be a few old stock Athlon XP's around, and the "new" Duron.
For 333 FSB, the Semprons, some leftover Bartons.
For 400 FSB, the choice is bleak, anyone with 400FSB Bartons left, probably has them at premium prices.

The writing is on the wall for Socket A, though it may have a while longer as an ultrabudget platform

Strzelecki 13-08-2005 23:17

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I have a spare 266 1.4Ghz Athlon lying around if you want it. The board should take it no problem!

marky 13-08-2005 23:21

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Originally Posted by Strzelecki
I have a spare 266 1.4Ghz Athlon lying around if you want it. The board should take it no problem!

thanks for the offer but its the kids pc and they are playing with it when they blow it i will get another "maybe of you":D

AndrewJ 13-08-2005 23:24

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So whats your main pc right now? something new in the pipeline with all this OC'ng?

Strzelecki 13-08-2005 23:27

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Originally Posted by markymoan
thanks for the offer but its the kids pc and they are playing with it when they blow it i will get another "maybe of you":D

Ok, well the offer's there. I have no use for it really as I don't have a board for it! Got some PC2100 RAM to, haven't tested it though as I'm too lazy!:)

AndrewJ 13-08-2005 23:28

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What speed is the 2100 ram 333mhz?

Strzelecki 13-08-2005 23:30

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Nope, 2100 ram runs at 266MHz (133), 2700 ram runs a 333MHz (166) and 3200 ram runs at 400MHz (200), when it's not overclocked of course!

AndrewJ 13-08-2005 23:36

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LOL okay thanks I have a pc coming soon which runs on 333mhz ram.


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