Russ is sexist.
 

After an odd experience at my gf's house tonight (and by 'odd' I mean 'sexist')it became apparent that I am sexist. Not to the point where I think women shouldn't hold responsible jobs etc but in general terms, such as assuming most women are crap at parking and other such examples.

She spoke a LOT of sense in to me and it seems I've not even been aware of it - until now.

Apologies to anyone who has been offended by a sexist comment which I've put forward as a joke, and I can assure you I have not intentionally been sexist.

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I always thought you was sexy. :D :D :rofl:

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and the pope is catholic yada yada :D

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:Yikes: Hold the front page :D

So, what did you do/say?

Or, rather (as I wouldn't expect you to divulge that here) what do you think you might have said/done here that would have offended?

BTW, if it's any consolation - I'm sure (knowing what this crowd is like) if you really had offended anybody you would know about it :p:
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:LOL:

I had to read the title twice :D

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Thats not sexist....it's true :confused:

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Well you've never seen me park a car, then! :p:

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What about navigation? :)

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That was nothing to do with me, I was driving! :ninja:
and the idiot on the other end of the phone asking the questions was no help whatsoever! (And that wasn't you by the way!)

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:angel:

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Tonight was apparently the culmination of a number of events - I was showing her flatmates the absolute stunner on page 42 of this weeks's Nuts magazine and one of their gfs spoke up to say she didn't think this particular woman was nice and I "shh"'d her which apparently sounded like I was saying because she was female, her opinion didn't count.

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I think it was Marina, navigating - and she would be the most surprised by this thread, I'd imagine :Yikes:

big up to you, Russ - sometimes it is the 'throwaway' stuff that can be the most hurtful, without you (or any other one of us), realising :tu:

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Hmmm Russ gets told that he is sexist? Stranger things have happened....
Russ thinks about it and realises he has made sexist comments on the forum and in public and apologises.....
Ok stranger things than that haven't happened often ;)
I seem to recall telling you off on more than one occasion for a remark made in jest in the past but you rebuked my comments, at least you have shown that you have the "spheres" to apologise for your misdemeanors :) Any more confessions you wanna make while you are on a roll? :naughty:

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Damn not even a rep for my heartfelt comment. :(

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As long as it's only his heart you are feeling ;) I'm sure he thinks highly of you too Roy :D

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Good for you Russ, aknowlegement of a problem is half way to a cure! :D

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Men go in the Library and smoke cigars and drink brandy or port. While women have the kids and do the knitting and needlecraft. Sounds good to me bring it all back.:D

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Here you go Russ, for your car...........
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Believe me that was one of very few that I could post in humour that I wouldn't have got a swift slap for :angel:
Berating an entire section of the population because of their sex is like deriding a section of the population because they are coloured, foreign, of reduced IQ, homeless, jobless or even Welsh.... we can all have the occasional laugh at them but we know that at some point someone [B]will[B] take offense, especially if we carry on doing it regularly and persistently ;)

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Nothing like that in my local library. :D

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My Paul wouldn't grumble about our local library if it was like that (he ends up going to one 15 miles away cos they seem to have a better choice for him, says they are all "womens" books at the nearby one).

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Well I have not been offended by your over the top sexist remarks Russ ;)

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:rofl:

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I just know I'm gonna get in trouble for this but.....



:D

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:slap: you wish. :D

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Incognitas picks herself off the floor and demands a very large gin and tonic...For the shock. :drunk:

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So you are institutionally sexist. We'll have to set up a committee to look into this you know.

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You'd definitely get a slap if you kept on telling sexist jokes about Welsh people. Not from Russ either..

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Male only committee? :)

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Don't worry Russ,
offer her a candle lit dinner at a romatic restaurant, followed by a trip to see a weepy film, and you'll go from sexist to sexiEst in no time flat. :)

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I think it's worth pointing out that we seem to have gone so far down the sexual equality path that some have seem to have forgotten that men and women are actually different...and not equal in that respect. Equal in terms of status, sure but not equal as in the same.

Therefore pointing out differences either with humour or in a serious way is fine, depending on what and how it is said of course.

Let's recognise differences, promote equal status and be polite but let's not lose our ability to laugh at each other.

=disclaimer= a general comment on society and not about anyone in particular on this board :rolleyes:

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why apologise it is just you being a normal bloke. ;)

ik

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Russ i have read your post and decided to be a new man and not sexist
therefore from this day forward my wife will no longer do the washing up
my daughter can do it instead

:dig:

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"Hi, my names Russ and Im a sexist-aholic" :D


Im sure its not as bad as you think. Its good you realise you are aware of it.

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What's the big deal about women parking?
It's a known biological fact that they don't have the right equipment in their head for it (ie the bit of brain that developed in men that judges distance and objects and helps with navigation) just as men don't have the right equipement in their head for language, sympathy, empathy (women have a specific part of their brain for language, men have to just make do).
Celebrate the differences, don't knock each other for them.
Guys, don't mock your gf if she isn't able to navigate or park.
Girls don't hit your bf if when you come to him with a problem he tries to solve it rather than just giving you a sympathetic ear, or even doesn't notice something is wrong because you've not turned on the big neon sign which says "Something is wrong, turn to page 25 of my manual to find out what i need you to do stupid!"

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I could make several comments, mentioning gf and what was she doing out of the kitchen?

But I decided to be semi serious.
I occurs to me that this woman may have a problem herself. I mean she decided you were sexist because you went shhhh?
Even by the largest stretch of the imagination I fail to see how shhhh can be deemed as sexist or rather, making her feel inferior because it undermines her comment because she is female.
Beauty is a matter of taste, I dont like many of the women posted in the Lust thread, doesnt undermine my authority because others think different.

Men and women are different in just about every way, except we breathe air, eat and drink.
Our bodies function differently, we have different parts and our minds think differently. Even within this, you have other differences, in style, sense of humour, taste, whatever.

Why should Russ be convinced he is sexist because one person objected to the "shhhh" had he said "**** off you pig **** for brains blonde bitch" I could possibly see what she meant.
Does it mean evertime I say "shhh" to my god daughter I am undermining her feminine ways and making myhself a reet sexist bar steward? No it means Shhh or as Russ inferred it, shhhhh I think she is particularly attractive and I would like to sleep with her. I dont think you see her the way I do.

But in the interest of being non sexist, my GF can now open every tin, bottle and jar herself, I wont hold open any door for any woman, I will no longer buy them a drink in the bar and I wont put the toilet seat down. All because it may be sexist and undermine them.
In return I shall do my own washing and ironing, spend my wages on myself and not flowers for her and I'll invest in one of those "fleshlight" sex aids, because as you can plainly see men dont need women either.

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Interesting...

Well firstly let me introduce myself as Russ' gf and as the person who originally said I found the comment sexist. I don't agree that I have a problem myself. Russ explained to me after he said the comment (to my female friend) that the reason he had said 'shh' was because it was a 'bloke moment'. This implies that she was not allowed to have an opinion on whether or not this women was attractive because she is a woman herself.

Now let me start by saying I can assure you I am no Germaine Greer and also I am not accusing Russ of being a sexist pig or anything like that. Obviously I think he is a wonderful bloke which is why I am with him. However I think that sometimes, without realising it, and certainly not in a malicious way, he can say things that are a bit sexist. And I think a lot of blokes can be. Equally I think a lot of women are. My whole point was that I don't really like my mate being told to 'shhh' when she offers her opinion on something. Russ was worried afterwards that he had offended my friend and she in turn asked me to reassure him that he hadn't. I knew full well he wasn't being nasty towards her but it's just something I don't like, and I don't really like sexist jokes either.

Calm down is all I can say to this comment. I think Xaccers has the right idea:

I am not for a moment suggesting you stop treating women as women. I simply don't like women being lumped together in one group of people who 'can't park' or 'are rubbish with directions' in the same way as I object to such phrases as 'men don't listen' or 'men love football.'

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Hi and :welcome: :sulk: :dig: mark now goes to check the sunflower in the garden it may need watering :D

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Welcome to the forum Clarie we have heard a lot about you...well no we haven't but we hear your name alot :D

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Hi Clarie, :welcome: to CF.

Glad to see you're keeping Russ on his toes ;)

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Hey all,


I wouldn't want anyone to think I am the stereotypical nagging gf trying to change her bf. It's just that I think sometimes he is a bit sexist without realising - I have seen posts he has put on here before that I find a bit offensive (albeit in a jokey way) towards women. Anyway all credit to him once I told him he had a think and realised maybe I am right! Hence this thread,

Nice to meet you all!

Clare :)

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Aww Clare the thought never even crossed my mind that you were a nagging stereo type :)

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absolutely - any more than other types of labelling or stereotyping should dictate expectations of behaviour - I agreed with Xaccers, also ;)

- just seen your latest post while I type this and it was exactly what I meant about the 'throwaway' remarks in my earlier reply to Russ
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...9&postcount=11

- nice to 'meet' you, too :)

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It's okay for the females to note a suitable punishment would be a bikini line wax, while being recorded for CF forums :D

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or a b c & s wax :Yikes:

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hmm posts on 777 there markey :rofl: ooo

BC&S wax.. sounds painful.

Lets get it done by with the most sticky wax and slowly pulled off, what do you think ladies? suitable punishment ( hope i aint giving his lady friends ideas)

NOT!

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[QUOTE=Russ D]After an odd experience at my gf's house tonight (and by 'odd' I mean 'sexist')it became apparent that I am sexist. Not to the point where I think women shouldn't hold responsible jobs etc but in general terms, such as assuming most women are crap at parking and other such examples.QUOTE]

Hmmm.. so you think women's parking places should be like this eh? (See pic at bottom of this post...) :D :D :D
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LMAO! :D :D :D

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:dmonk: :hyper: :Sun: :nworthy: i feel a whole lot better

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[QUOTE=makikomi]As I always reverse into parking spaces where hubby will usually drive nose first (as he can't be bothered to reverse in). I for one resent that.[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] :D

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[QUOTE=Angua]a bit like this :disturbd:

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[QUOTE=markymoan]I don't think I would give anyone in that car park a medal for good parking!:erm:

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[QUOTE=markymoan]
:rofl: PWNED :rofl:

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[QUOTE=Saxodriver]:erm: Please explain! Thanks

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From your comment on the parking comment of Russ's, then the image Marky posts was a lovely comeback, hence PWNED being posted.

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no, what does PWNED mean!

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I believe it's a gamer's slang term - a shortened version of Power-Owned.

In other words, you've had your behind well and truly kicked.

Or something to that effect.

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Now who is being sexist?!:td:

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LOL you been pwned a few times then.

Man I spend toooooooo much time on Halo :disturbd:

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Kinda... you're right that it's gamer slang. It's called leet speek, and you can find a description at Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet or here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

Getting back on topic, I read this joke on another forum but it made me think of Russ...

Three men were sitting together bragging about how they had given their new wives duties. Terry had married a woman from America, and bragged that he had told his wife she was going to do all the dishes and house cleaning that needed to be done at their house. He said that it took a couple days but on the third day he came home to a clean house and the dishes were all washed and put away.

Jimmie had married a woman from Canada. He bragged that he had given his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning, dishes, and the cooking. He told them that the first day he didn't see any results, but the next day it was better. By the third day, his house was clean, the dishes were done, and he had a huge dinner on the table.

The third man had married a South African girl. He boasted that he told her that her duties were to keep the house cleaned, dishes washed, lawn mowed, laundry washed and hot meals on the table for every meal. He said the first day he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't see anything, but by the third day most of the swelling had gone down and he could see a little out of his left eye.

:D
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Here's another joke that the feminists won't like (talking of which, if feminists hate men so much, why do they look like one? :shrug: )...

A bloke is driving happily along in his car with his girlfriend
when he's pulled over by the Police. The police officer
approaches him and asks: "Have you been drinking Sir?"

Why?" asks the man, "Was I driving badly?"

"No" replies the Officer, "You were driving splendidly. It
was the ugly fat bird in the passenger seat that made me
suspicious"

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:rofl:

Class post Gareth

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:welcome: Clarie or even Clare,

I wouldn't say Russ is sexist but more clareist.

Seems to have a big obsession with Claires as he is a big admirer of Claire Richards from Steps and also a big admirer of Claire Scott from his wave days :D

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wow seems my post has had a lot of influence!! ;)

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Clarie,

Just take a deep breath and remember:

"Men have only two faults; everything they say, and everything they do."

:)

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:rofl: Many a true word is spoken is jest, Rastlin! ;)

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Uh oh, looks like mi bird has found my on-line playground..... :erm:

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See there is no way, even in jest I am going to lower myself and the rest of man kind by making comments such as that.
I understand the full impact of what happened now, and Claire I apologise for my comment, but at the time I was merely saying what I thought from the information Russ posted. Most people here will tell you I dont mince myt words I say what I think. I know it can offend people and I will apologise when I think I was in the wrong.
However, I think that Russ has rushed to label himself sexist still, an apology would have been enough, branding himself sexist is just going too far.
He was being himself and the comments and actions he comes out with are what make him, him. By pointing out what he has said is sexist and making him "realise he is sexist" you have forever changed him. Part of him will be missing and thats the part he will not show again in front of you and your friends.

I appreciate that it wasnt your aim to change him, but unfotunately that is the consequence. It can be argued it may have changed him for the better, but again that is a matter of oppinion.

Again, I apologise if I have offended you by my previous post, It was poorly written.

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Thanks for the apology, I appreciate it. However I must disagree here again, with no disrespect to your opinion intended. I do not agree that I have changed Russ forever, nor that from now on part of him will be missing. I simply don't want him to make sexist jokes in front of me. To suggest that part of him will be forever missing is, forgive me, a little dramatic to say the least. If I had the power to irreversibly change people forever then I would no doubt be in a very well paid government job. ;)

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No, you'd be teaching ME how to do it :D

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But Clare, there is a part of Russ missing, and it will be forever.

It's his hairline :disturbd:




Russ, I'm sorry, but there's no way I could let that one past :p:



EDIT: :welcome: by the way :)

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Haven't read the whole thread but here's my 2p anyway...

I can change my own tyre, polish my own shoes and put a shelf up. But if my boyfriend wants to hold the door open for me, pull a chair out for me, take my coat, offer me his if I'm cold or carry my bags for me I'll gladly accept. PCness gone mad has ruined everything and make things that are good old fashioned chivalry and turned it into a form chauvanism. Which is sad. I'm independent, emotionally and financially, but if my other half wants to make me feel special or cared for and protected, I'm not going to refuse....

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Very well put OrangeBird.

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[QUOTE=makikomi]Interesting how the shuttle's first flight being piloted by a women landed on the wrong side of the USA isn't it.....bad weather I believe......

:) :)

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Well put OB and yes I do apreciate being treated with courtesy and respect as do most women (I suspect). To me good manners are very PC and it all just goes to helping make the world a more pleasant place to live.