shiny new black peugeot...least it was shiny till
 

1 of my brothers just got himself a shiny brand new black peugeot 206 with all the extras...least it was shiny till this morning going home from work driving down road and a car smashed straight the passenger side wing! so he jumped straight out trying very hard not to punch the young lads head n he said you better have insurance the lad shook his head no insurance,tax,licence or mot! so he phone the police expecting them to drag the little ****e away and was told that no crime had been commited!! so now he will have to claim off his insurance & lose his no claims and have to pay the excess:mad::mad::mad:

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This is what traffic police should be arresting folks for. Sadly until someone puts forward a law making it a "criminal" offence to drive without tax, MoT and isurance scrotes like this get away with it and honest folk have to pay.

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Thats crazy surly you need tax, insurance, licence and MOT to drive a car?

Then why do they knick drivers without these in the fly on the way cop programmes

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Driving without insurance isn't an arrestable offence, so the police can't shoot out and arrest them, however it IS an offence.

Offenders can get 6-8 points, upto £5,000 fine and possible suspension. (http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/roadlaw.htm)

Don't get me started on uninsured drivers :afire: The best hope is that the ******* gets pulled over by a copper. He could well end up with a suspension for having no insurance, and if he drives again, on a suspended license, that IS an arrestable offence.

EDIT: Hang on, he didn't have a license? Hmmm. I guess they didn't come out because he was gone, but it is an arrestable offense, I am sure.

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He should write to the papers for a start - they'd love a story like that.

Next I'd sue the other bloody guy for ALL costs involved.

Of course an offence has been committed - the police should have made the arrest and prosecution because it is an open and shut case.

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Nooo he has committed so many crimes they should have thrown the book at thim....I would complain to the chief constable about it!!

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He needs to be "injured" they would have had to come and do something then. ;)

I know if I am ever involved in an accident (hopefully not) and I am definitely not at fault I would have some sort of "injury".

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he was still there my brother got his address and where he works!

oh he is! sore neck;)

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I don't understand it every thing he has done is against the law so why wouldn't the police get involved??

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Seems like driving without a license is not an arrestable offence, but driving while disqualified, is.

See here

Hmmm.

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See the government can spend billions just trying to get ID cards/trying to keep uncharged terrorist suspects in jail but they can't plug this particular hole in the law..I wouldn't have thought that if this was added as a matter of course to the list of motoring offences that any political party would even object. :erm:

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did they not even come out to breathalise him?

surely you could make up the point that they were driving like a maniac, and had no due care and attention of the roads.

it is no wonder people hate paying high premiums when *******s like these are about not paying them, and getting away with it.

ik

EDIT: can the links be made a bit smaller to stop the horrible long screen?

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That is wrong best of luck to your mate, I am to pick up a Peugeot 309 soon from Bristol but no goddamn way will I drive without insurance no matter how tempting it may be.

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Driving without insurance, tax, MOT are each individual offences. There may not be apower of arrest attached to those offences but they are still matters that should be addressed by the police. If they are not interested I would make an official complaint against them.

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You brothers insurance company will make a claim through the motor insurance bureau, this is was set up by the insurance companies for cases like this, what happens is, all the insurance companies pay money into a pot every year, when accidents like this happen money is taken out of the pot for repairs to vehilcles caused by uninsured drivers. Your brother will be ok on the insurance side of things. The motor insurance bureau will then take him to court to recover some of the money towards the damages caused to you brothers car.

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It can also lead to a delay in things.

What will happen is his insurance will pay for the repairs and claim back via either the person involved or the motor insurance bureau.

If anyone was injured in the accident it is an offence to leave the scene.
Also if anytone was hurt you MUST report it to the police.

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whip-lash almost impossible to prove/disprove - and you can erm suddenly experience it coming on after the event - perhaps after reading a thread like this.

about 18 years ago I called the police after someone smashed into the back of my car and drove off - I only had witnesses to the sound no actual witnesses to identify the car. the police came out and took my details and required to see my licence and insurance which I didnt have on me so I had to take them to the cop shop within 7 days.

so I think you're brother should have insisted that the police come out perhaps even saying he is scared because he thinks there might be a breach of the peace as he is currently undergoing therapy for anger management!

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What bothers me is these people are allowed to drive about on there merry way until they kill a child

then they go to court all sorrowfull and get a 12mnth ban and a £400 fine
because its a motoring offence not criminal
take the bumber of the car and knock somebody dead and you will do 10 years in jail :mad:

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His Insurance can give the go ahead fo repairs to be done, he might lose his no claims for a few months but he'll get it back when it's all sorted.

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Further thoughts for anyone who comes across an untaxed vehicle on a public highway.

If you can give or e-mail details of Make, model, colour, reg and location to your local council they can have an abandoned vehicle removed. They do have to make attempts to contact the owner to ask for removal (and it doesn't matter if the vehicle has a SORN declaration either if it is on the public highway) and if the vehicle is seen being driven they will pass the info on to the police (who hopefully will stop them and impound the vehicle).

If you don't want to contact anyone directly try your local councillor who should be happy to do so on your behalf. (Did one myself this morning (tax had run out in 2000)).:Yikes:

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2000!! They have been very lucky not to get caught so far!

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OMG,

I have to pay around £800 a year in order to have insurance for my car.
Then you get these stupid individuals who refuse to pay.

Drive, get caught have a £150 pound fine or pay £800 pounds a year hmmmmmm

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I know what you mean Ryan it just doesn't make sense does it

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Until they whack into another vehicle seriously injuring someone, and there vehicle is disabled or they are, then they have court costs, and likely a lawsuit being placed at them, also a lifetime or long term ban on the test they wish they took, all for refusing to pay £800 per year.

Oh and possible the look on a father/mothers face after he/she uninsured and unlicensed sprayed there daugher/son on the road., and having there faced and the persons they hit embedded on there eyelids for rest of there life.

I think I will stick to paying my stupidly high insurance makes me think twice before driving nuts.

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What are you paying insurance on?

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Figure of speech to clarify the points of many people who are young/old and pay insurance and of being young and insurance costs being high it being a deterant to drive like a moron.

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Since when has a 17+ year old been bothered about driving like a knob cause his/her insurance is a grand?