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dilli-theclaw 29-07-2005 18:41

Kojak
 
Do you remember Kojak?

I just read over on Digital Spy that ITV4 are considering bringing back this in the form of the American remake.

http://www.usanetwork.com/series/kojak/flash.html

I remember the original fondly so I guess I'll have a look at the new one :)

Graham 29-07-2005 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Do you remember Kojak?

Who loves ya, baby? :D

Russ 29-07-2005 18:42

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Erm....Ving Rhames is black?

Not wishing to stir up a hornet's nest here but would they have made Shaft white?

Jules 29-07-2005 18:44

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I agree if they are going to bring it back surely they should use a white actor?

Graham 29-07-2005 18:45

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Originally Posted by Russ D
Erm....Ving Rhames is black?

Not wishing to stir up a hornet's nest here but would they have made Shaft white?

Telly Savalas was of Greek ancestry (his full name was Aristotle "Telly" Savalas) he was hardly "pure" caucasian.

http://www.tellysavalas.com/about/bio/

What does it matter anyway?

"Stavros!"

"Yes lootenant?"

"Book him!"

"Yes lootenant."

dilli-theclaw 29-07-2005 18:46

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As long as it's good I don't think it matters what colour the actor is.

Tezcatlipoca 29-07-2005 18:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Erm....Ving Rhames is black?


But he's still bald, & certainly able to kick ass


I think he could be quite good.

Russ 29-07-2005 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham
Telly Savalas was of Greek ancestry (his full name was Aristotle "Telly" Savalas) he was hardly "pure" caucasian.

Yeah but still 'white'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D
But he's still bald, & certainly able to kick ass


I think he could be quite good.

Yeah, let's give him a chance, although if they were determined to use a black actor I'd have gone for Louis Gossett Jr.

iron25 30-07-2005 00:30

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I've got all the episodes in divx format and was going to start watching it this weekend so I will let you know if it's worth tuning in :)

Hom3r 30-07-2005 00:58

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I prefer Columbo (the bloke in a mac who doscovered America :D )

marky 30-07-2005 01:10

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Originally Posted by david.ewles
I prefer Columbo (the bloke in a mac who doscovered America :D )

errr excuse me sir theres something thats puzzling me :confused: :)

Gareth 30-07-2005 10:48

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I prefer Scooby Doo...
Quote:

* Velma: Jinkies!
* Shaggy: Zoinks!
* Scooby-Doo: Ruh-roh!
* Scooby-Doo: Scooby-dooby-doo! [usually howled at the end of every episode of the series]
* Villian: I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids!

Angua 30-07-2005 10:48

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Does Ving Rhames have a hairy brother to play Stavros?

Gareth 30-07-2005 10:54

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Originally Posted by Angua
Does Ving Rhames have a hairy brother to play Stavros?

Apparently they're getting this guy to do it...
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2005/07/1.jpg
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2005/07/2.jpg
and he's gonna have a catchphrase of 'Hello matey pips, innit?'



:D

Stephen 30-07-2005 11:40

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This new Kojak was on the TV while I was in Orlando back in April, I watched a few of them and thought it was quite good.

Maggy 30-07-2005 11:59

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Ach! TV gets more and more crap..Why the hell do they have to keep making remakes of old series? I think the world of TV and film makers has become intellectually defunct and now has the level of imagination of an ant. :mad:

Jules 30-07-2005 13:04

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I didn't like the original Kojak so I will be giving it a miss also...Now Columbo was worth watching untill they tried to update him and spoilt it all :(

iron25 30-07-2005 17:34

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Originally Posted by whyme38
I didn't like the original Kojak so I will be giving it a miss also...Now Columbo was worth watching untill they tried to update him and spoilt it all :(

Columbo was the best detective show ever :) what made it so great was you didn't have to keep guessing who did it as you knew at the start and the rest of the show was all about Columbo proving it. As you say, the newer episodes couldn't shine a light on those from the 70s & 80s.

Maggy 30-07-2005 17:41

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Originally Posted by iron25
Columbo was the best detective show ever :) what made it so great was you didn't have to keep guessing who did it as you knew at the start and the rest of the show was all about Columbo proving it. As you say, the newer episodes couldn't shine a light on those from the 70s & 80s.

I don't want to know..I like trying to work it out for myself. :erm:

Jules 30-07-2005 17:48

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A bit off topic but I remember once watching a murder film years ago and when it got to the last half hour when the murderer was going to be revealed we had a power cut, the leccy came on just as the closing credits were on, I asked every one I knew if they had watched it and of course no one had.....no a days i would just go on the net to find out.

I never did find out who did it :(

iron25 30-07-2005 23:46

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I've watched four episodes of the new Kojak and all I can say is :erm: It's no NYPD Blue or The Shield. I really don't know why they called it Kojak as it's not a continuation of the original nor can I say it's a remake. It's just a bald cop who's called Kojak and that's where the similarities end. If they had called it something else then it probably wouldn't get anyone's attention as it's a pretty straight forward & predictable american cop show. There's a bit of eye-candy to keep the interest going but that's really the only good thing about it :D If you are going to watch it, don't expect much. My recommendation is to watch The Shield with Vic Mackay :) 'Al Capone with a badge'. It's a shame NYPD Blue has finished as IMO that is the best cop show ever.

Tezcatlipoca 31-07-2005 00:02

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Originally Posted by iron25
It's a shame NYPD Blue has finished as IMO that is the best cop show ever.


It was very good in the early years, but I think Homicide & Law & Order are better.

danielf 31-07-2005 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron25
I've watched four episodes of the new Kojak and all I can say is :erm: It's no NYPD Blue or The Shield. I really don't know why they called it Kojak as it's not a continuation of the original nor can I say it's a remake. It's just a bald cop who's called Kojak and that's where the similarities end. If they had called it something else then it probably wouldn't get anyone's attention as it's a pretty straight forward & predictable american cop show. There's a bit of eye-candy to keep the interest going but that's really the only good thing about it :D If you are going to watch it, don't expect much. My recommendation is to watch The Shield with Vic Mackay :) 'Al Capone with a badge'. It's a shame NYPD Blue has finished as IMO that is the best cop show ever.

IIRC crimes on Kojak were ussually solved by dilligent policing/brute force, i.e. one guy going around all the shops in New York asking if they happened to sell a blue biro to a man with a moustache. Is any of that left?

iron25 31-07-2005 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
IIRC crimes on Kojak were ussually solved by dilligent policing/brute force, i.e. one guy going around all the shops in New York asking if they happened to sell a blue biro to a man with a moustache. Is any of that left?

He still sucks lollipops and says 'who luvs u baby' :)

Maggy 31-07-2005 00:49

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Originally Posted by iron25
He still sucks lollipops and says 'who luvs u baby' :)

I don't care!I want brand new shows not stale remakes...

iron25 31-07-2005 00:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D
It was very good in the early years, but I think Homicide & Law & Order are better.

I'm not a fan of Homicide at all, I watch the occasional episode but it never really grabs me like NYPD Blue does, I find it to be slow and rather boring. Law & Order is okay, I started to watch it more during the series that starred Angie Harmon :naughty: but again, it's nothing special, better than Homicide though. IMO, NYPD Blue was consistently good. I can remember when David Caruso left and I was like "it's gonna be rubbish without him" but Jimmy Smits was just as brilliant. Then when he left I felt the same but Ricky Shroeder was good as well, it took a while to like him but he grew on me and the writing & acting from the other cast members was still top notch. Even when Shroeder was killed off, it was still a really good show till it ended, primarily because of Dennis Franz.


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