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Bifta 28-07-2005 09:59

IE7 Beta
 
Just tried it, a couple of things people should know before installing it

1) It still doesn't render a lot of CSS properly (fails the acid 2 test spectacularly) and actually seems to have some rendering bugs that IE6 doesn't

2) Theres not enough control over the toolbars and it's impossible to get it into to a useable state like IE6

3) The bookmarks link fills the page instead of scrolling, my bookmarks exceed the width/height of the page and I can't see how to get to the ones that aren't shown, possibly alterable in the options, can't see it though

4) After rebooting post install, it causes Trillian to crash constantly.

5) Doesn't appear to be uninstallable, it upgrades IE6, make sure you set a restore point before installing it so you can then

UNINSTALL IT COS IT'S RUBBISH!

Unfortunately I forgot to set a restore point and now I'm stuck using Opera :(

Derek 28-07-2005 10:09

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
Unfortunately I forgot to set a restore point and now I'm stuck using Opera :(

Ever thought about using Firefox? :D

Bifta 28-07-2005 10:12

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzo
Ever thought about using Firefox? :D

I'd rather douse myself in petrol and do a spot of firewalking.

Paul K 28-07-2005 10:28

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Which Beta did you download Bifta? There was a problem with a version that was released at the begining yesterday. They uploaded a different version early this morning to replace it. Some form of corruption issue with the first file uploaded for release.
I'd read about the Acid2 test failing as in IE6 but I haven't seen people reporting the same number of problems that you are having. Explains why it's still in a clsed Beta though I suppose.
Would the un-install instructions for XP IE6 work for IE7? You might be able to remove the registry markers and then re-install IE
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378

ntl customer 28-07-2005 16:35

Re: IE7 Beta
 
They don't call it a beta for nothing, you know. ;)

Chris 28-07-2005 16:36

Re: IE7 Beta
 
/tries to think of some IE Fanboy quip that has not already been made at some point, in some thread, somewhere ...

/fails

:D

jamesclarke555 28-07-2005 17:13

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Just got it today, I like it. Remember it is still beta after all.

Richard M 28-07-2005 17:26

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
1) It still doesn't render a lot of CSS properly (fails the acid 2 test spectacularly) and actually seems to have some rendering bugs that IE6 doesn't

Did you expect anything less from Microsoft?

Stuart 28-07-2005 17:28

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
1) It still doesn't render a lot of CSS properly (fails the acid 2 test spectacularly) and actually seems to have some rendering bugs that IE6 doesn't

Did you expect anything less from Microsoft?

Give them time, afer all:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesclarke555
Remember it is still beta after all.


Richard M 28-07-2005 18:37

Re: IE7 Beta
 
I can't see them radically changing the CSS parser.
After all, they're just coding for what they need the Longhorn, sorry Vista explorer to look like.

Lord Nikon 28-07-2005 18:50

Re: IE7 Beta
 
I thought ALL MS Products were betas? look at the sizes of the "service packs" - half of them seem more like an OS Core ReWrite... and yet they STILL have yet to optimise the compile process for the newer CPUs on most of it.

AndrewJ 28-07-2005 19:32

Re: IE7 Beta
 
and do not forget the oligatory mandatory, normal "critical flaw found in < new microsoft product >

Stephen 28-07-2005 19:36

Re: IE7 Beta
 
well they have added tabbed browsing so yippee


also my 1000th post woohoo for me:D

Richard M 28-07-2005 19:41

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Yeah, they only took several years to catch up to everyone else. :rolleyes:

Check out the comments on the official IE blog, they're almost all negative:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/27/444004.aspx :rofl:

Stuart 28-07-2005 20:56

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Yeah, they only took several years to catch up to everyone else. :rolleyes:

Check out the comments on the official IE blog, they're almost all negative:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/27/444004.aspx :rofl:


Most of the negative ones appear to be people that can't get hold of it.. :rofl:

Russ 28-07-2005 21:23

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Anyone got a link I can try it from?

Ramrod 28-07-2005 21:37

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Anyone got a link I can try it from?

here?

Raistlin 28-07-2005 21:39

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D
Anyone got a link I can try it from?

here?

Indeedy: This page in fact :tu:

http://bink.nu/Article4589.bink

Ramrod 28-07-2005 21:41

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
Indeedy: This page in fact :tu:

http://bink.nu/Article4589.bink

I just updated my link you git! :mad: :D

Richard M 28-07-2005 22:50

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Yeah, they only took several years to catch up to everyone else. :rolleyes:

Check out the comments on the official IE blog, they're almost all negative:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/27/444004.aspx :rofl:


Most of the negative ones appear to be people that can't get hold of it.. :rofl:

Direct from Mr Whitestone:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/IE7-WindowsXP-x86-enu.rar

So now you all know how crap it is. :dozey:

philip.j.fry 29-07-2005 09:06

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
So now you all know how crap it is. :dozey:

I'm fully prepared to give it a chance, it could be supurb...just as soon as the *nix version comes out I'll be downloading it like a shot :D

Stuart 29-07-2005 09:28

Re: IE7 Beta
 
[QUOTE=Richard M][QUOTE=Stuart C]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Yeah, they only took several years to catch up to everyone else. :rolleyes:

In fairness to the IE team, they were only re-established a few months ago.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
(from another post)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M

So now you all know how crap it is. :dozey:

Well, based on my limited use of it so far (I have an MSDN subscription, so downloaded it as soon as it went up), I quite like it. Sure, it has it's faults, but it *is* a *very* early beta. I'm just saying people shouldn't dismiss IE as crap because something doesn't work in an early beta.

I have to admit, I have noticed Trillian is quite flaky with IE installed.

Opera is still my favourite browser though. I do think it funny how some people have complimented Microsoft on how small IE7 is, while the download, at 10 meg it is nearly three times the size of Opera's basic download (which does Mail as well)..

Paul K 29-07-2005 11:15

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Actually I'm suprised at how stable IE7 is so far, normally with a closed Beta leak you expect to be seeing a lot of errors and crashes but so far nothing.

Paul K 03-08-2005 07:33

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Just a heads up for anyone running IE7 and wonders why they can't run Windows Update, it doesn't work with it at the moment. You can however download a "stand alone" version of IE6 Here that will work fine. You need to download it, unzip it to a folder, run the executable and point the browser to
Microsoft Update and you will get your updates.

Richard M 03-08-2005 07:40

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Paul Thurrot has written a rant aimed at IE7 and advised people to "boycott IE" - only thing is he runs Winsupersite so is the person most into M$ that I know!
http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowsp...ott_47208.html

Quote:

My advice is simple: Boycott IE. It's a cancer on the Web that must be stopped. IE isn't secure and isn't standards-compliant, which makes it unworkable both for end users and Web content creators. Because of their user bases, however, Web developers are hamstrung into developing for IE at the expense of established standards that work well in all other browsers. You can turn the tide by demanding more from Microsoft and by using a better alternative Web browser. I recommend and use Mozilla Firefox, but Apple Safari (Macintosh only) and Opera 8 are both worth considering as well.

sheridan 03-08-2005 21:30

Re: IE7 Beta
 
i have now got ie7 on my machine :erm: hardly seems worth the bother :rolleyes:
not much of a big deal:dozey: still its good to try things out :sleep:

Halcyon 05-08-2005 15:23

Re: IE7 Beta
 
I think I'll stick with Firefox at the moment. From what I've seen from new releases of IE, there hasnt been anything dramatically greatly improoved.

sheridan 05-08-2005 17:29

Re: IE7 Beta
 
yes i have gone back to ie6 ,but i am trying out opera at the moment as well,its seems quite good ,, but i think i could get used to it ,,the graphics seems a bit less quality on this browser though ,,still will see how it goes;)

Chrysalis 05-08-2005 23:15

Re: IE7 Beta
 
I think the tabs are needed and a massive improvement, before anyone mutters maxthon, yes I use it but it has terrible gdi handle leaks. I use opera as well but I tend to use maxthon for static pages and javascript sites since opera is buggy as hell for javascript.

AndrewJ 13-08-2005 19:25

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Microsoft have announced more news on IE7 with new branding graphics,

source Neowin.net

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?c...=main&id=29932

Paul K 13-08-2005 19:32

Re: IE7 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxodriver
Microsoft have announced more news on IE7 with new branding graphics,

source Neowin.net

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?c...=main&id=29932

Or you can read the full article on the IE blog ;) Linky

AndrewJ 13-08-2005 20:08

Re: IE7 Beta
 
At time of posting I was having trouble getting to the blog. Thanks for the link Paul.


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