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TheBlueRaja 14-07-2005 22:36

Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Check out this - its a keyboard that changes depending on what your using it for - the idea is great and could save you forever wondering in games and apps what the heck is the key for this and that again...

It uses small screens in the keyboard to display what the key is for and can change the icons in the keys depending on what app your using.

Cracking idea...

http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/


Wonders what the price is though.. :scratch:

Looks cool too :D

Maggy 14-07-2005 22:39

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
The trouble with technology is that the more complex it is the more likely it is to go belly up when most inconvenient and at an even more inconvenient cost. ;)

Jon M 14-07-2005 22:39

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
another flabber.nl reader?.. literally just looked at that :D

and yes, I do want one

Raistlin 14-07-2005 22:42

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
That's cool.

It's also (geek mode on) the same principle as they used in Star Trek. The idea is that the panels that you seem them using (from The Next Generation onwards) configure themselves to the individual user/role.

You set it up as you want it and then when you log in it changes to show you your own unique setup, tailered to engineering/weapons/comms/navigation or whatever.

I have to have one of those keyboards :D

Matthew 14-07-2005 22:43

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
I like it, but would my wallet like the cost?

ian@huth 14-07-2005 22:43

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
I used to have a keyboard many years ago that came with several overlays for various games and applications together with blank ones for you to name the keys to your requirements. Can't remember which computer this was for but the keys were rectangular with the letters / use printed under them.

AndrewJ 14-07-2005 22:50

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
I have to have one. I do not care how much I HAVE TO HAVE ONE.

Raistlin 14-07-2005 22:52

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
:LOL:

The thought occurs that it might not have been such a good idea to post it here.....

What happens when the Team get hold of a few?

They'll be able to program one of the buttons so that it's permanently set to "ban" :rofl:

Halcyon 14-07-2005 22:58

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Wow that looks pretty coool, yet pretty expensive too.

TheBlueRaja 14-07-2005 23:03

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Say it was 100 quid?
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Originally Posted by Jon M
another flabber.nl reader?.. literally just looked at that :D

and yes, I do want one

Actually - its a slashdot reader... Try to keep that quiet though.. :D

MadGamer 14-07-2005 23:14

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxodriver
I have to have one. I do not care how much I HAVE TO HAVE ONE.

Same here mate, same here. :D

AndrewJ 14-07-2005 23:18

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
What would be the dead pixel cover on it.

Maggy 14-07-2005 23:26

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Did you take a look at the mouse? :erm:

MadGamer 15-07-2005 00:07

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Did you take a look at the mouse? :erm:

What mouse? :confused:

dilli-theclaw 15-07-2005 00:25

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
Say it was 100 quid?

I'd say that's bloody cheap.

I bet something like that would be nearer 200 - 300.
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Originally Posted by Wayne A
What mouse? :confused:

http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/mus/

Steve H 15-07-2005 00:26

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
What mouse? :confused:

The one making your brain work? :erm:

Millay 15-07-2005 03:49

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Whats wrong with the good old dos/cpm days whne you just had a peice of card that you plonked over the keyboard to show what functions the buttons had depending on app used...

[nerdmode]but saying that... this is like so much cooler.....[/nerdmode]
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Also looking at it, I can imaine it will be expensive at first but there will be cheap rip offs, with mono lcd displays etc.... watch the trust product pages :)

KingPhoenix 15-07-2005 06:49

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian@huth
I used to have a keyboard many years ago that came with several overlays for various games and applications together with blank ones for you to name the keys to your requirements. Can't remember which computer this was for but the keys were rectangular with the letters / use printed under them.

I bought one of these the other week, its called a ZBoard, it has overlays for different games etc..... pretty cool too :)

Millay 15-07-2005 07:22

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
This is a proper keyboard:
http://www.scoutingaround.com/comput...d/Model_M.html

(I wish id thought to get a bundle of these when IBM were chucking them out en mass

Although I know use a Model 6326
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index...id/0/id/119967

Much nicer than these flimsey modern things and without lots of silly buttons puttiing out of place all the normal ones :)

makikomi 15-07-2005 08:12

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
I think it's a stunning idea and it looks gorgeous. But I agree with other posters who have said it would be expensive and possibly prone to failing at inopportune moments.

Also, how would you programme the keyboard? Unless it can automatically detect the key set-up, anything other than your normal QWERTY format would require defining the appearance of each key.

A great idea though. :)

bmxbandit 15-07-2005 09:16

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by makikomi
Also, how would you programme the keyboard? Unless it can automatically detect the key set-up, anything other than your normal QWERTY format would require defining the appearance of each key.

wouldn't be hard to do, i imagine it would come with a number of standard key sets for games and applications, and probably a simple tool to let you create your own bitmaps.

how long you reckon before someone puts pr0n on it? :D

Millay 15-07-2005 09:19

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by makikomi
Also, how would you programme the keyboard? Unless it can automatically detect the key set-up, anything other than your normal QWERTY format would require defining the appearance of each key.

A great idea though. :)

As its only a picture I guess several ways.

My idea would be to have it have its own processor of sorts, that when just plugged into a usb port with no driver software, it would act in dumb mode and display standard keys and send standard key commands to the machine.. you could then have software to allow it to be programmed, to display different things.. just a plug in for many apps would reprogramme it..

From a programmers point of view imagine how it could expand on your apps, and how much you could change the way a computer is used...

MadGamer 15-07-2005 11:38

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
Say it was 100 quid?

I'd say that's bloody cheap.

I bet something like that would be nearer 200 - 300.
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Originally Posted by Wayne A
What mouse? :confused:

http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/mus/

Bloody Hell that is nice :D

bmxbandit 15-07-2005 11:47

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
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Mus is for Macintosh users who know that one-button mice do a perfect job of moving the cursor on the screen.
moving the cursor, fine, but only one button still isn't terrbly useful. doesn't look very comfortable either!
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it's not clear on that site whether it's a working prototype or just an artists' rendition of the idea...

Stephen 15-07-2005 12:29

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
I can see it now, Press the Caps lock key and all the letters change to the Upper case versions, then back again once you have finished. So cool, I hope it gets made and released, I will definatly buy one!

grandmaster 15-07-2005 12:53

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
I want one i want one,

If any of you have seen Tron, i want the keyboard the Mr dillinger has in his office desk.

all you do is tap the glass to push the key...

Electrolyte01 15-07-2005 13:25

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
£100 for that keyboard? Very good price. I want one! :D

zing_deleted 15-07-2005 14:06

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Mus is for Macintosh users who know that one-button mice do a perfect job of moving the cursor on the screen.
1 button no wheel OMG what am I to use to club my foe with the butt of my gun??? and no wheel how else am I to select my nades when I wanna be a noob???

dilli-theclaw 15-07-2005 14:08

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
1 button no wheel OMG what am I to use to club my foe with the butt of my gun??? and no wheel how else am I to select my nades when I wanna be a noob???

Look - all you need to do is stand still facing away from me!!!! you only need one button for that ;):D

Maggy 15-07-2005 14:49

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Personally I think it would need an automatic 'ooops I didn't mean to push that button feature'... :D

zing_deleted 15-07-2005 15:03

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
Look - all you need to do is stand still facing away from me!!!! you only need one button for that ;):D

:rofl:

Stuart 15-07-2005 15:41

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grandmaster
I want one i want one,

If any of you have seen Tron, i want the keyboard the Mr dillinger has in his office desk.

all you do is tap the glass to push the key...

That reminds me of something I read. It was an article by Jeff Minter (yes, the Games Programmer). He was explaining his view of the office of the future. It was, basically, that desk running with a gui.

Oh well, we will have to do with Touch screens, and virtual keyboards (http://www.gomogear.com/detail.aspx?ID=6705)

TheBlueRaja 17-07-2005 10:45

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Apparently its going to cost a minumum of $200 to $300 dollars when its eventually made.

OinkyBoinky 17-07-2005 20:25

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
Apparently its going to cost a minumum of $200 to $300 dollars when its eventually made.

sounds about right... shame tho.. would be cool...

Ramrod 30-04-2007 08:57

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Try $1500 :disturbd: :D
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Pre-order starts: May 20, 2007 at 3 p. m. Moscow time

Production schedule:
Beginning of December 2007—200 keyboards
End of December 2007—200 keyboards
January 2008—400 keyboards

Price: US$ 1,500.00

Uncle Peter 30-04-2007 10:28

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34289348)
Try $1500 :disturbd: :D

:Yikes: Judging by those production volumes it's probably the only way they're going to make any money.

awibble 30-04-2007 11:01

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
i think they would of done better with a lot more at about $100 .... i would of ordered one for $200 max.... Its not worth it for more than that IMO

Uncle Peter 30-04-2007 21:15

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
unfortunately those oLED displays are still quite expensive so it's highly unlikely they could make it for 100 quid

awibble 01-05-2007 08:05

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
im sure they could if the built the quantity....

I bet building one PS3 would cost a huge amount compared to building a few million.

Stuart 01-05-2007 09:09

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awibble (Post 34290409)
im sure they could if the built the quantity....

It's not just a case of deciding to build more. They have to work out a way to build more without failiure rates increasing.

Look at the 108" Panasonic Plasma. Panasonic can't currently build these in any great quantity (a few each year), so where they are selling them, the price is around £50,000. However, they are currently working to increase their production rate, so the price will fall.

zing_deleted 01-05-2007 09:12

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Do you know about recouping developement costs? why do you think stuff thats just being refined and not redesigned is so cheap??? My first external cd rw was 180 quid 4 x 4 x 2 x my first internal 12 x cd rw was 100 quid. You have to pay for developement before prices drop its standard business practice. The keyboards are specialist and therefore will only appeal to those in the money and willing to pay for such technology.I do not think there is much of a market for £100+ keyboards when I can get a fair enough internet board for < £4

AndrewJ 01-05-2007 09:14

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Yet in time those fancy keyboards will be sold by Logitech as their new top end model for £79.99 with a fancy mouse.

dev 01-05-2007 09:23

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
waste of money imo, how often do you people look at your keyboard anyway?

pooper 02-05-2007 14:46

Re: Superb idea for a new keyboard - Its more interesting than you think
 
Ive been watching the Optimus keyboard developement for over a year now and as expected, the actual reality of it is quite a way from the initial prototypes (limited screens, key size, cost etc - but that's all to be expected).

At the end of the day, who is going to be willing to buy a PC, then spend the same amount again......... on the keyboard lol

Would be nice if/when OLED displays become more mainstream and possibly cheaper, but i wouldn't get too excited about this keyboard. I lost interest ages ago :P

(if you ARE interested, the best place for info is their blog: http://community.livejournal.com/optimus_project )


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