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melevittfl 13-07-2005 11:44

Can't download new e-mails
 
Hi,

OK, this is strange.

This morning I noticed that I haven't been getting any e-mails sine the 2nd of July.

My e-mail client is connecting and logging in OK, but the server is saying there are no new messages, even when their are. For example, see the following:

Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
POP3 Log started at 07/13/2005 11:11:38
POP3: 11:11:43 [rx] +OK InterMail POP3 server ready.
POP3: 11:11:43 [tx] USER mark.levitt
POP3: 11:11:44 [rx] +OK please send PASS command
POP3: 11:11:44 [tx] PASS **********
POP3: 11:11:44 [rx] +OK mark.levitt is welcome here
POP3: 11:11:44 [tx] STAT
POP3: 11:11:44 [rx] +OK 0 0
POP3: 11:11:44 [tx] QUIT
POP3: 11:11:44 [rx] +OK mark.levitt InterMail POP3 server signing off.


I've tried Outlook Express and Thunderbird and both of them fail to retreive new e-mail.

However, (and this is the strange bit), I tried logging into the NTL World Webmail and all my e-mail for the last few weeks shows up there (along with nasty grams about my mailbox being too full).

Any ideas?

Stuart 13-07-2005 11:58

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
It might be worth calling Customer Services to see if there is anything they can do server side.

simbr 13-07-2005 12:35

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
What happens if you use LIST rather than STAT?
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I suspect you have some sort of email proxy interfering.. try turning off your AV software.

melevittfl 13-07-2005 14:29

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simbr
What happens if you use LIST rather than STAT?
__________________

I suspect you have some sort of email proxy interfering.. try turning off your AV software.

I don't have any e-mail AV software.

Using LIST:
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+OK mark.levitt is welcome here
LIST
+OK 0 messages
.
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simbr 13-07-2005 15:16

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
You don't have an IP address entered instead of a server name do you?
Latest suspicion is that for some reason you're connecting to the old mail platform somehow.

melevittfl 13-07-2005 16:02

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simbr
You don't have an IP address entered instead of a server name do you?
Latest suspicion is that for some reason you're connecting to the old mail platform somehow.

Nope. Connecting to "pop.ntlworld.com"

Chris W 13-07-2005 16:56

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
drop into a dos window, and do an nslookup on pop.ntlworld.com

what ip address does it resolve to?

melevittfl 13-07-2005 17:17

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris W
what ip address does it resolve to?

81.103.221.14

Chris W 13-07-2005 17:38

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
hmm

When you login to webmail, are you going to http://webmail.ntlworld.com/ or going through the ntlworld home page?

If you PM me the username for your email account i'll see if i can get someone in ntl to check this for you :)

melevittfl 13-07-2005 18:06

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris W
hmm

When you login to webmail, are you going to http://webmail.ntlworld.com/ or going through the ntlworld home page?

If you PM me the username for your email account i'll see if i can get someone in ntl to check this for you :)

Going through the ntlworld home page. I didn't know about the webmail url.

username PM'd.

simbr 13-07-2005 22:03

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
OK, just for giggles.. try changing the servername from pop.ntlworld.com to pop.ispmail.ntl.com

melevittfl 13-07-2005 22:41

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simbr
OK, just for giggles.. try changing the servername from pop.ntlworld.com to pop.ispmail.ntl.com

Whooooo!!!!

That worked!! My mail client is downloading my mail!

MetaWraith 13-07-2005 23:00

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
waits with baited breath for explanation as to why it effected you and nobody else.

Raistlin 13-07-2005 23:00

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Cool, glad that's working.

@simbr: Any chance of an explanation as to why that would work? What's the difference between the two (keep it simple, I'm feeling a bit of a :dunce: tonight :) ).

homealone 13-07-2005 23:11

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
Cool, glad that's working.

@simbr: Any chance of an explanation as to why that would work? What's the difference between the two (keep it simple, I'm feeling a bit of a :dunce: tonight :) ).

which bit - and lucky :dunce: is all i can say ;)

- but seriously, for me too. please simbr :)

melevittfl 13-07-2005 23:33

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
which bit - and lucky :dunce: is all i can say ;)

- but seriously, for me too. please simbr :)

..and more importantly (well, to me anyway,) can I just leave it pointed at the new address, or will that stop working at some point?

and, by the way, THANKS!!!

JohnHorb 14-07-2005 07:59

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Pure speculation, until simbr comes along to enlighten us, but I assume NTL have changed their pop server to the new address, but redirect the old pop.ntlworld.com to the new addy. Maybe it is this REDIRECTION which only works if connected via NTL, e.g. maybe the redirection is handled by NTL's DNS servers?

simbr 14-07-2005 08:54

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
pop.ntlworld.com has changed from the old IP to the new one.
pop.ispmail.ntl.com has always been on the new IP.
somehow or other, he's picking up an old cached DNS for pop.ntlworld.com which is odd since he ran nslookup and got the correct IP.

melevittfl 14-07-2005 19:37

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
Hmm. But if it was a DNS problem, I'd have thought I wouldn't be able to connect.

I was able to connect to a pop server, it's just that the server thought I didn't have any mail.

Pure speculation, but I suppose there isn't just one pop server. Perhaps there was some stale caching between different NTL pop servers...

simbr 15-07-2005 08:07

Re: Can't download new e-mails
 
There was an upgrade to the mail platform recently. All historic mail was transferred to the new system and for a time new mail was being delivered to both. It appears that new mail is now only being delievered to the new system but for some reason, you have been connecting to the old one.


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