ntl Netguard
 

http://www.ntlworld.com/helpsupport/netguard/index.php

What is Netguard?
A comprehensive, easy to use suite of PC security software.
Includes free Anti-virus, Pop-up Blocker, Form Filler and Privacy Manager.

How will it help you?
Cleans and protects your PC from 140,000 viruses & other security threats.
Automatically cleans infected files and blocks virus attacks.


Looks like a good deal; being free ;) - going to try it out...

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Good link :tu:

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its quite good if you have no other protection and also it is free.

I was part of the trials team and thought it was good and easy to get to grips with.

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Nice looking prog, if you haven't anything else and for free :scratch: couldn't help but have a quiet laugh at this though

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Not that I've had any probs with NTL,:nono: only niggles :tu:

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I had to disable Microsoft AntiSpyware before Netguard would install correctly. When installed Netguard found a virus called IFrameBoF@expl that AVG didn't detect. Full marks so far!

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Good that it's free. Bad they haven't told me about it.

Good that they will be bringing out a version with anti-spyware and firewall (coming soon?!?!?!), bad becuase of this....

Whilst they may need to do this, I would urge extreme caution in doing so. My father had the same message when he installed BT Openworld. He had to be connected to the internet to do so. He disabled his anti-virus, and guess what? He was infected.

Disabling firewalls is something you should only be doing if you're behind a router or have your connection to the internet unplugged.

IInterested to hear how people are getting on with it....to be honest I have an extreme (and perhaps irrational) phobia of letting ntl loose with software on my PCs.

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I'm just glad to see NTL finally listening to comments made years ago. How many problems, virus and trojan infestations have been caused by inexperienced people that went out, bought a PC and decided to join the broadband revolution?
I have always stated that NTL needed to look towards provding dome form of free firewall and anti-virus package on the installation CD to try and stem the flow of infestations on the network.
Thankfully now NTL are being PROactive rather than REactive, yes it will still be up to the end user if they install it or not but at least now they are being informed about the issues and hidden risks that they face when they go onto broadband.
Maybe NTL should send out a weekly email reminding their users to keep their anti-virus definitions up to date too or even just a big flashing logo on the NTLworld frontpage as a weekly reminder, at the very least it will get them into a habit of updating it regularly:(
Well done NTL, I might even install the software so that I can be in a position to offer assistance with it.

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Looks good. Its good that NTL are giving something back to their customors and this is a step in the right direction.

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I agree, it might naff-off Norton and Zone Labs, but it makes an awful lot of sense for ntl to do this - it will save them money after all with regards to bandwidth of malicious traffic.

However they did put something in their FAQ's saying that a firewall will be later this year, but it is likely that there will be a charge for this - which is a shame.

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As I understand it the firewall will be optional, which to me does suggest an extra charge. From the FAQs:
Also note that Netguard is not available to Freedom customers:

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:td: Despite my earlier optimism I've totally failed to install netguard on my laptop which is wireless networked to my main PC. It installed OK but there was no way that the laptop would then see the network. It seemed to make any wireless networks invisible. It's as if netguard is only programmed to work on the main PC. I'm probably doing something wrong but I don't know what!

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I installed it on my laptop no problem, it was hooked to the router via cable but didn't complain once.
What IP address was your laptop running on for the install?

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Paul
82.16.34.161
Does this make sense?
Bert

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That is the IP address that the Laptop was given by the wireless router?

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Looks more like the IP of the modem to me.... If it is it might be a good idea to edit at least the last set of digits out..... I could be wrong though, it happens some times, apparently.....

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Yes, that's the address given by the wireless router. I checked the PC address and it's the same. The PC is connected to the router and the router to the ntl cable modem. If it's any help everything worked perfectly when AVG was the AV program using Microsoft's firewall. Don't worry too much about it as the laptop is working fine with Netguard removed and AVG back.

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Netguard, been on my PC for a little while now, and I was very impressed to see two updates today, not a bad little program for zero pounds, and certainly not as bulky as my old Norton 2003.

Nice one ntl, a good little package, and not complicated to use.

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I've got netguard running sucessfully on two different machines simultaneously on this network, both connected through a switch and a router.
I assume the authentication site picks up the public IP address so the address given to the machine should be immaterial.

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The thing ntl have to work with is that not alot of people use either the
ntlworld email address or visit ntlworld.com which are the easist way to tell people about this, I saw the free upgrade and now this free netgaurd.

People I talk to do not even know about the speed upgrade and how long has that been out, if people used one of the above means there would be no grief.

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it is looking quite a good product, the AV will attempt to update every 3 hours for new definitions, so should be quite quick to react to any new viruses.

NOTE : Please Be Very Carefull if you run Thunderbird, & it finds a virus in your mail, due to the way thunderbird stores mail, the program is unable to remove the individual mail, it just takes the whole mail box....hmmm... so if you run this or Netscape Communicator, then set the AV to notify you if it finds a virus & not to auto clean.....
Also it looks like it will be additional charges for firewalls & spyware protection.

Barfly

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just got back of holiday and saw this is there any more on this? i currently run avg free and zone alarm free with no problems :notopic: wicked sunburn (southport) :Yikes:

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Netguard will not run on Windows x64. It looks that it attempts to install a 32bit firewall driver, fails but carries on with the installation. When loading the program it just crashes out.

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errghh just started a virus scan and its sooooo slooooooowww

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i have just purchased a new pc which came with norton firewall and antivirus should i still download netguard

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Dont use netguard with other av software,I would keep the norton untill its free updates run out then think about using another product

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the norton is one of them freebies for a few months ? but when it runs out will it still cause problems on my pc ?

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Uninstall norton before you install netguard

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I had norton 2004 for 3 months uninstalled it after it ran out and i am now running netguard with no problems.

Make sure you download the uninstall utility from the norton website to completely and safely get rid of the norton program you have.

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thanks maverick very good advice but i notice that there will soon be a small charge for netguard i wonder how small ?

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They will probably charge for av updates in the near future,no time set for this yet as far as I am aware.
I would expect the charges to be cheaper than other current av software.

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what price do you put on your online security?

personally, I continue to pay zonelabs for a firewall & antivirus & thank spybot & adaware for their free service..

- if netguard works & the price is competitive, though, I will look at it ;)

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There are a few good free av's out there though. :shrug:

To me, it would be better, like Paul said earlier, for it to be provided for new users who don't know much about security.

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think ill stick with norton .grrrrrrrrrrrr no net guard ...... noooooooo norton ...arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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I'm not saying that it's bad.

It's just that there are alternatives for the people who know, but (I don't know what ntl are planning) it would be good for newbies to the internet.

Though just on a personal note, I would get rid of Norton though, it's crap ;)

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There are a lot of extra features with netguard like the privacy manager and form filler,and more to come.

Personaly I found Norton to be over complicated and painfull.

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:notopic: I've never seen the point in a privacy manager. The one time that I tried the norton one, it was so annoying I turned it off.

Plus, the form filler can be provided by the Google Toolbar in I.E. or by an extension in Firefox.

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it's gotta go on my system, it's taking an eternity trying to scan pk3 game data files.

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What do you base this on?

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The bit on ntl's FAQs page I expect, that says that they might charge for the firewall when they introduce it later this year.

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do you have to be on NTL for netguard to get updates?

i was thinking of trying it on my laptop and sometimes when im away from home i connect via a different isp. (I just either dialup or connect my laptop to the boardband connection thats there, with the owners permisson ofcourse!)

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It says so in the FAQs, but I guess you can try it.

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No good for me then :( think ill just renew my nod32 when it runs out instead!

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Hi, I've noticed that when using remote desktop in XP Pro, the action of logging in to the remote PC, closes the netguard application. Has anyone else found this or is there a fix? :td:

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Think I'll stick with AVG for the time being until more is known about the netguard virus checker. I haven't read anything that tells me that netguard is anything special; but it could cause problems or run slower than AVG.

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just tried it and within 20 mins I already had problems with my connection...couldnt ping to anywhere and my ip got corrupted. removed program and all fine again...

running ZoneAlarm Pro and AVG pro think thats good enough for the moment

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Anyone know who's written this virus checker for ntl ? I presume its an existing program that's been modified for ntl - can't see them writing a full prog from new and backing it up with regualar definition updates etc.

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Radial Point have created the program for ntl, here is the link http://www.radialpoint.com/home.php

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Personally, I use use Sygate Personal Firewall, AVG and Firefox to browse. These 3 plus a sweep with adaware now and again means that my PC has never had a virus, a trojan or any other form of takeover.

I find the free utilities a lot better than the paid for ones like norton as they tend not to be as bloated and less resource heavy. I have also found that Sygate is a far better and more stable firewall than Zonealarm. Granted I havent used zonalarm in over a year, but Sygate does such a good job i wouldnt go back unless they really messed up a revision.

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Always good to stick with what works, and yes, using an alternative browser will reduce the risk of exploitative virus infection, until VXers start to target non standard browesers. :)

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Radialpoint were also formerly known as Zero Knowledge (the Netguard package is also known as Freedom, but was renamed by ntl due to the obvious confusion this would cause)

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This now also seems to appear as PC Guard for Telewest :D

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Ok guys & gals my mate just got ntl broadband can i download netguard to disk then install it on his system before i connect him or is it on the new install disk

pleeeease :D

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Do'es anyone know wether ntlnetguard leaves tracking cookies that adaware or spybot picks up on

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Well, it does connect to an internet site for authorization and updates etc., but I don't see why it would need to set cookies in IE to do so.

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Hmmm... several times over the past few days I get a warning on boot-up "Netguard did not start correctly... yada yada... reboot or reinstall...."

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Could be it hasn't been able to contact the server it needs to get to for information. You could try uninstalling it through add/ remove programs, reboot, delete the installation folder it was using and then install it again to see if it behaves. Also check that any firewall you are running hasn't changed a seting anywhere that might have caused it to stop running correctly. Some times firewalls misbehave for no reason.

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Why would you want to give up the very best AV money can buy? :erm:

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becuase netguard is free and if it worked offnet as well as on i'd have probably switched.

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just tried installing netguard onto my pc,it installs then makes the pc crash. when i uninstalled it the pc crashed again. when i rebooted the computer had a message saying its just recovered from a serious error.
i had no other anti virus installed.

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I just installed netguard on a xp pro machine with avast on it as well........on boot it got to the desktop, loaded netguard and then just sat there for about half a hour till I booted into safe mode and sys restored to yesterday. :rolleyes: :dozey:

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Many reinstalls later it still does it about once every 4 boot-ups.... even after total removal including registry cleanups... and the Firewall lets it connect whenver it wants to.....

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well i ran trend mico an dit found nothing then i ran Netguard and it found a virus on my computer so i am happy with net guard i have been having virus probelms and ran other anti virus programmes and they found nothing but netguard found it so i am hoping this will be the end of my troubles

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aint this the same as blueyonder pcguard?

sorry if someones already said it:)

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Just dunped Norton for Netguard. Norton appeared to uninstall OK after I had to go back twice to remove live update and another piece of the software. Netguard installed easily and all seems well. PC appeared to boot faster or it could be my wishful thinking. :dunce:

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I installed netguard and was quite happy with until I looked in sygate firewall at what it was doing. The freedom driver installed with it is constantly using bandwidth and quite a lot of it (up to 20kb/s upload). I thought it was just getting updates at first so I watched it closeley for a couple of days and it didn't vary all that much, it just kept going. It was the biggest update ever seen or summit funny is going on.

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You sure you dont have spyware or something?

I have had it installed since day one and have never had a problem with it. I dont have any bandwidth being used by it at all. I have turned the auto update off. Whenever I go on my pc I just update it myself then start using my pc for whatever I need to use it for. That way it wont interupt me.

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No spyware It was definitely NTL netguard. 100% certain
took it out and my bandwidth is back to normal

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My McAfee Internet Security Suite 2004 expires tomorrow, and today the offered me 2006 Ver.8 for a disscounted £25. I decided to hold off renewing Mcafee untill I had found out what NTL's Netguard was like. My searching has led me to this very helpfull site. Having read all the posts in this thread I'm afraid I'm still undecided on wether to ditch Mcafee.
I must say I have found it has done its job in protecting both my son and my own PC's, and alot better than Norton's Internet Security Suite. As it is costly for me to pay for both subscriptions I feel I should try a freebie now as many other people seem to do with no problems. I am dissapointed that NTL have indicated that they will charge when they introduce other features, and they claim the present Netguard service is "over £40's worth" although it doesn't seem to have the equivelant features of the payed for suites I've been using over the last few years.
Anyway as time is running out, can any one offer some expert advice for this undecided subscription paying fool!
Thanks in anticipation.

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I use......

AVG Free
Kerio PFW Free http://www.kerio.com/dwn/kpf2-en-win.exe (Grab this anyway, I hear it will likely disappear in the near future.)
Adaware Free
Spybot Free
MS Giant Antispy Free
Spyware Blaster Free
Highjack this! Free
Highjack this online log checker Free http://www.hijackthis.de/
Pest Patrol not Free.

These are good but unfortunately not free.
Counter spy, Ewido,

Here's a good forum where you can get up to speed on Security matters.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php

HTH

Mick.

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why the hell are you using so many antivirus/spyware programs, all they do is take up ur ram and processing power

seems kinda pointless to me

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LOL! They don't all run at once. It's a case of what one doesn't catch maybe one of the others will.
It dates back to when I had great faith in the abilities of Spybot and relied upon it alone. After a while Spybot kept telling me my PC was clean and in spite of my thinking my PC was getting sluggish I believed it.
Eventually it dawned on me something was definately wrong and IIRC I installed Pest Patrol and Adaware. After running Spybot and getting an all clear I ran Pest Patrol and Adaware and together they found 113 problems.
After that I think relying on just one anti spy app is kinda pointless.
But each to there own.

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hmmmm.... like you say 'each to their own' but in my opinion it seems you are over protected. I couldnt be bothered doing the 8 or whatever the ammount is of scans you do.

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Well ZAP has it's own intergral spyware scanner which updates pretty regularly.However if I run adaware or Spybot they both pick up what ever ZAP has missed and what the other has missed.It does give one pause for thought.Indeed only once has Spybot ever said my system was clean after an Adaware scan. :erm: Odd isn't it? I guess it depends on what one programmer regards as spyware as another may not know about it.:)

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Has anyone had this problem with Netguard? For about 5-6 months my laptop (XP Home SP2) has been freezing up after irregular amounts of time, usually (but not always) when logged on to Runescape.com and left inactive. My firewall - ZoneAlarm - recently alerted me to CSS-DVP, a background virus monitor made by Command Software Systems Inc. I've now come to believe (98%) that ntl Netguard uses this CSS software. Reports on the Web indicate that CSS-DVP causes instabilities in Windows XP Home with SP2. Look in Windows\system32\drivers for CSS-DVP.sys and in Program Files\Common Files\Command Software for the rest (which I know I never knowingly installed)!

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What ZoneAlarm is it?

ZA Pro
ZA Free
ZA Internet Security Suite
ZA With AntiVirus
etc...

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It's ZA Pro (no antivirus).