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JediMaster 05-07-2005 14:26

802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Hi

I own a Ebuyer 54mbps Wireless Cable/DSL (WI-FI) Broadband Router 4-port (802.11G) HERE or Quickfind code: 52629

I wanted to use a Nokia 9500 on it. As it has WiFi. The problem is my friend has one & it wont work on my system. His house Network is ok (Netgear) but my EBuyer is not working on it. Laptops are OK. But the Mobile wont.

I emailed Nokia 3 times & this is the LAST email I had...
Quote:

With regards to your email query concerning the 9500, this model is a
802.11b device. You have indicated that you are using an 802.11g
network, the 9500 will not be able to operate in this network. You will need
to operate in either 802.11b or in mixed mode. Please consult your
routers operating manual for information on this functionality.

Please don't hesitate to contact us again if you have any further
questions.

So... What is Mix Mode?? I thought 802.11g was backward compatible. :confused: Any tips?

Raistlin 05-07-2005 14:29

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
In "Mix Mode" the device will operate either at b or g speeds dependent on the devices that it is connected to.

If your device is specifically set to b or g then it will only work at those speeds. g devices are backwards compatible but only in as much as they normally include a Mix Mode setting.

JediMaster 05-07-2005 16:04

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
In "Mix Mode" the device will operate either at b or g speeds dependent on the devices that it is connected to.

If your device is specifically set to b or g then it will only work at those speeds. g devices are backwards compatible but only in as much as they normally include a Mix Mode setting.

how do find out if its mix mode enabled?
cheers

Raistlin 05-07-2005 16:13

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
This bit from the eBuyer link suggests that it is capable:

Quote:

Provide seamless roaming within the IEEE 802.11b and 802.11g WLAN infrastructure.
I've been looking for a manual for your model but can't find one. There should be an option in the control panel to set the wireless mode - you need to look there.

JediMaster 05-07-2005 16:45

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
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Hi...

I saw in my Admin Pannel for the Router... (See Image)

Security: 802.1x and RADIUS (Will that allow ALL 802.11* to work? :confused:

This FORUM is one for my Router. But cant see any Instructions...

Raistlin 05-07-2005 16:56

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
I think that "802.1x and RADIUS" refers to an exncryption method, not to the speed/mode of the router.

An exhaustive search has turned up nothing more I'm afraid. The fact that there aren't any instructions anywhere on how to set the mode would suggest one of two things:

1. Both modes aren't actually supported, despite the spec claiming that they are, or
2. The switching between modes is automatic depending on what the router is connecting to. If this is the case then is is permenantly operating in "mixed" mode so it should be seeing the phone ok.....
__________________

Have you set up the security features on the router?

If so, did you set up a WEP key or change/disable the SSID broadcast?

If you did it could be this that is preventing the phone from connecting.

Aragorn 05-07-2005 17:00

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
That option is purely for enhanced security.

Try having a look in the 'advanced' menus for more Wireless config, although it maybe something you can't configure - ie it 'should' drop to mixed mode if there are both 11b & 11g devices in range.

Have you tried using your phone with no other wireless devices active? Maybe the router is in 11g mode and can't drop down to 11b mode?

The manufacturers website is http://safecom.cn/code/default.asp (according to the forum) but appears to be pants - no manuals or FAQ for that device !
__________________

As Raistlin said - have you secured the network - MAC address filtering is the other one to look for.

Raistlin 05-07-2005 17:01

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
As Raistlin said - have you secured the network - MAC address filtering is the other one to look for.

Good point, knew I'd missed something.....

jtwn 05-07-2005 17:19

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
That router definately works with wireless B devices, had 2 on it when i had it. However that router is the bain of the earth and never should have been created...

Raistlin 05-07-2005 17:20

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn
That router definately works with wireless B devices, had 2 on it when i had it. However that router is the bain of the earth and never should have been created...

:LOL:

I got that impression when I was searching round the web for information on it but I didn't like to say :)

Thanks for confirming it's wireless B compatible though :tu:

nffc 05-07-2005 22:04

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
It will work but not at more than 11 Mb/s and may impact on the G devices' performance too...

jtwn 06-07-2005 00:46

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
:LOL:

I got that impression when I was searching round the web for information on it but I didn't like to say :)

Thanks for confirming it's wireless B compatible though :tu:

No probs :)

JediMaster 06-07-2005 09:31

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
As Raistlin said - have you secured the network - MAC address filtering is the other one to look for.
Whats that?? Dont think I have?

Aragorn 06-07-2005 15:04

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JediMaster
Whats that?? Dont think I have?

Try clicking the 'MAC address control' button - as shown on your screenshot ;)

JediMaster 07-07-2005 09:18

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
Try clicking the 'MAC address control' button - as shown on your screenshot ;)

Here is Screen Shot!

What if any Edits do I need to do?:confused:

Aragorn 07-07-2005 09:59

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
No, looks like it's not enabled.

Might be an idea to get another 802.11b only device (not sure if that's feasible) and see if that connects to your router. Def sounds like an incompatibility somewhere, but wether the router or phone is the prob I'm not sure.

GeoffW 07-07-2005 10:11

Re: 802.11b Mix Mode?
 
I have a different setup, but on mine the mode on the client is set in: network connections; properties; configure; advanced.

In there I get a load of options for the wireless set up including IBSS 54g mode. Set to auto it works b or g. On the router its also set to 54g auto.


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