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50420 12-06-2005 22:18

how do i go about reporting this...
 
hi all... a quick queery hopefully,, a friends daughter has had her hotmail account hacked... whoever has hacked into the account is now sending messages to this girls friends..asking to meet them... on the pretence that it is the daughter sending the instant message...seeing as most of the contacts are 12 and 13yr old girls.... obviosly my mate is more than a little concerned. we've had a look through the hotmail site and cant find who to report this to... anyone have a hotmail contact address where we can report this.. and would there be any point contacting the police ..???

paulyoung666 12-06-2005 22:20

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i cant see the police helping , isnt there a contact us section somewhere ????????

50420 12-06-2005 22:21

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.. its a .com address

Paul K 12-06-2005 22:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
hi all... a quick queery hopefully,, a friends daughter has had her hotmail account hacked... whoever has hacked into the account is now sending messages to this girls friends..asking to meet them... on the pretence that it is the daughter sending the instant message...seeing as most of the contacts are 12 and 13yr old girls.... obviosly my mate is more than a little concerned. we've had a look through the hotmail site and cant find who to report this to... anyone have a hotmail contact address where we can report this.. and would there be any point contacting the police ..???

Contact Hotmail
http://support.msn.com/contactus_ema...ail&ct=eformts

Raistlin 12-06-2005 22:23

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Try here:

abuse@hotmail.com
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From here:

http://privacy1.msn.com/uk/fullnotice.armx#MSNMAIL

Paul K 12-06-2005 22:23

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Or even here
http://hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/...=EN&country=us

50420 12-06-2005 22:25

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thanks guys... now why couldnt we find those links :)

Caspar 12-06-2005 22:25

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I assume you have changed the account's password???

Most hackings these days occur from opportunist password guessing! :( In fact, I know someone who actually had their email password as password (I don't even think he subed the a=4 and o=0)...come on! :(

Paul K 12-06-2005 22:26

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Originally Posted by 50420
thanks paul... now why couldnt we find that :)

Just have to know where to look but you have a number of valid contact points within this thread, use them all if necessary but make sure you secure the account with a new password as soon as possible.

50420 12-06-2005 22:28

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nah... my mates daughter is pretty adamant she hadnt changed the password.. or given it out to anyone

Raistlin 12-06-2005 22:29

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Yep, I would be tempted to blanket email the whole lot.

As has already been said, it is imperitive that you change the password straight away and then email all of the girls friends to tell them to ignore any messages from the account until further notice.

Hopefully you should be able to get their email addresses from te MSN software?

50420 12-06-2005 22:30

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thanks again paul... she would change the password... but whoevers got into the account has already done that...along with changing the secret question/answer, so she has no access to the account at the moment

Paul K 12-06-2005 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
thanks again paul... she would change the password... but whoevers got into the account has already done that...along with changing the secret question/answer, so she has no access to the account at the moment

You'll need to prove ownership of the account then, hopefully they will act quickly since it is leaving young children at risk if the account is in the wrong hands. You need to contact them tonight to make sure the account is secured as quickly as possible and I would make sure that all addresses in her contacts list are made aware that they need to change their email addresses as they are now in the hands of someone that they do not know.

Damien 12-06-2005 22:34

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I would certainly contact all the friends and inform them about the situation. Also surely the police may have to be informed?

Paul K 12-06-2005 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
I would certainly contact all the friends and inform them about the situation. Also surely the police may have to be informed?

Personally I would contact the police too since it may be that an adult is abusing the account to try and meet kids but the priority would be to make the Hotmail staff aware of the situation and maybe see what they suggest be done next, make sure they are aware that the account is being used to contact young children with the aim of arranging meetings.

50420 12-06-2005 22:41

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thanks all for the quick responses...much appreciated.

an email has been sent to the abuse team.... and the girl is now in the process of letting her mates know whats been happening.

out of curiosity though....i suppose the hotmail guys are able to log IP address's to users... so supposing they are able to trace whoever's done this...what would be thier usual course of action ???

Paul K 12-06-2005 22:43

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I would think so but I'm not sure, if they look to track the account before closing it IP tracking is one way of trying to locate the person abusing the account.

Raistlin 12-06-2005 22:45

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Not sure what they would usually do.

You would probably find that anybody clever enough, or determined enough, to have hacked an account like that will probably have covered their tracks quite well.

It might be worth suggesting that she does a complete sweep of the machine for a virus/any spyware as well. It is possibe (although probably unlikely) that some sort of keylogger/other spyware was used to gain the password for the account.

50420 12-06-2005 22:47

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whoever it is, they,ve just signed on and are seems like they just got to me in the contact list... getting a few abusive messages

Raistlin 12-06-2005 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
whoever it is, they,ve just signed on and are seems like they just got to me in the contact list... getting a few abusive messages

:LOL:

Perhaps we should all gang up on them.....

Actually, probably best not to. Probably best to leave it to MS to sort.

50420 12-06-2005 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
Not sure what they would usually do.

You would probably find that anybody clever enough, or determined enough, to have hacked an account like that will probably have covered their tracks quite well.

It might be worth suggesting that she does a complete sweep of the machine for a virus/any spyware as well. It is possibe (although probably unlikely) that some sort of keylogger/other spyware was used to gain the password for the account.

my mate gets me down there under the pretence of havin a drink...and usually spend a bit of time once a week cleaning the pc for him... so is thouroghly cleaned at least once a week... does get the odd bit of spyware on there...but is reasonably secure for a home pc
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
:LOL:

Perhaps we should all gang up on them.....

Actually, probably best not to. Probably best to leave it to MS to sort.

thats what i thought.. aint gonna be replying to them... i figure the longer they are signed on the better chance is of catching em...

nffc 12-06-2005 23:17

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Email them, see if you get a reply... then, you have an IP (of sorts)
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I should of course say, pretend you know nothing about the hacking and try and contact your "daughter" - they may reply to that.

50420 12-06-2005 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc
Email them, see if you get a reply... then, you have an IP (of sorts)
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I should of course say, pretend you know nothing about the hacking and try and contact your "daughter" - they may reply to that.

done. :) lets see if i get a reply. going by the messages he or she sent me... i'd have to say that it was a kid messing around... just going by the terminology they were using....and the awful spelling.

nffc 12-06-2005 23:48

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Get a few other people to do the same. :) preferably a few of the contacts.

MadGamer 13-06-2005 00:54

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My friend has had his hacked just now, what action do i take. I havent got his number so contacting him is out of the question.

50420 13-06-2005 00:59

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hi wayne..
my mate use the abuse email address abuse@hotmail.com

he had an automated response within a few minutes... basicly saying that someone had been assigned to investigate the matter further..

if you havent got a contact number for your mate... i dunno the best way to go about it to be honest... i suppose you could mail them on your friends behalf... but i'd imagine they may want some kind of contact information for him ????

MadGamer 13-06-2005 01:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
hi wayne..
my mate use the abuse email address abuse@hotmail.com

he had an automated response within a few minutes... basicly saying that someone had been assigned to investigate the matter further..

if you havent got a contact number for your mate... i dunno the best way to go about it to be honest... i suppose you could mail them on your friends behalf... but i'd imagine they may want some kind of contact information for him ????

Ive sent them an email, so hopefully they should reply.

Shaun 13-06-2005 02:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
done. :) lets see if i get a reply. going by the messages he or she sent me... i'd have to say that it was a kid messing around... just going by the terminology they were using....and the awful spelling.

To be honest I'd recommend the police, try you're local cop shop, after all that's what they're paid for. Better to be safe than sorry :(

50420 13-06-2005 02:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun
To be honest I'd recommend the police, try you're local cop shop, after all that's what they're paid for. Better to be safe than sorry :(

yeh thats what i thought.. even though it may well just be some kid messing around.. is better to be safe than sorry. my mate will be calling into the local police station on his way to work in the morning

Damien 13-06-2005 08:45

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and if it is a kid then at least it will scare the hell out of them. It could well be another person who knows the girl and is hacking in for a laugh? It would explain why that account was targetted

Isnt there a online police service to report this kind of thing

zoombini 13-06-2005 09:25

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And your local police station is going to do what exactly?

I'd have thought that they would tell you to contact MSN yourself, otherwise they would get flooded with this sort of thing.

simbr 13-06-2005 09:28

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Microsoft really should take this extremely seriously, seeing as they used to have their name all over the NSPCC adverts.

50420 13-06-2005 13:55

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update:
well my mate decided against reporting this to the police...prefering to wait for advice from microsoft.
in the meantime.. i had sent this person an email, under the pretence that i wasnt aware of what was going on with the account... just a sort of 'hows it going.. what u up too' kind of mail..

had an abusive reply back this morning and have thier IP address as 81.103.221.** pretty sure this is an NTL IP address... but is it a mail server address or the users ?
this is the tracert result:

Tracing route to host81-103-221-**.not-set-yet.ntli.net [81.103.221.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms 10.149.39.254
3 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms swan-t2cam1-a-v102.inet.ntl.com [80.0.254.9]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms swan-t2core-a-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [213.105.225
.21]
5 15 ms 13 ms 13 ms bir-bb-a-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.237]

6 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms win-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.142]

7 18 ms 15 ms 18 ms win-dc-b-v900.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.166]
8 16 ms 18 ms 15 ms host81-103-221-35.not-set-yet.ntli.net [81.103.221.**]
Trace complete.

Nemesis 13-06-2005 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
update:
well my mate decided against reporting this to the police...prefering to wait for advice from microsoft.
in the meantime.. i had sent this person an email, under the pretence that i wasnt aware of what was going on with the account... just a sort of 'hows it going.. what u up too' kind of mail..

had an abusive reply back this morning and have thier IP address as 81.103.221.** pretty sure this is an NTL IP address... but is it a mail server address or the users ?
this is the tracert result:

Tracing route to host81-103-221-**.not-set-yet.ntli.net [81.103.221.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms 10.149.39.254
3 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms swan-t2cam1-a-v102.inet.ntl.com [80.0.254.9]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms swan-t2core-a-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [213.105.225
.21]
5 15 ms 13 ms 13 ms bir-bb-a-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.237]

6 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms win-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.142]

7 18 ms 15 ms 18 ms win-dc-b-v900.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.166]
8 16 ms 18 ms 15 ms host81-103-221-35.not-set-yet.ntli.net [81.103.221.**]
Trace complete.

That is the users IP address .....

Paul K 13-06-2005 14:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 50420
update:
well my mate decided against reporting this to the police...prefering to wait for advice from microsoft.
in the meantime.. i had sent this person an email, under the pretence that i wasnt aware of what was going on with the account... just a sort of 'hows it going.. what u up too' kind of mail..

had an abusive reply back this morning and have thier IP address as 81.103.221.** pretty sure this is an NTL IP address... but is it a mail server address or the users ?
this is the tracert result:
Trace complete.

If it truly was abusive then you could report it to NTL as well as letting them know exactly what has happened with the MSN account. Unfortunately the MSN issue is not under their control but they may be able to act on the email you received back from that IP.
http://www.ntlworld.com/help/aup/

nffc 13-06-2005 23:11

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You've filtered part of the IP but the host name makes it pretty clear what the IP is... :P

bopdude 14-06-2005 02:08

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Sort of on topic, my gf's daughters ( 2 of ) are always giving away / swapping each others passwords, no matter how much we tell them not to do it, it still goes on, I'm getting fed up of it and MSN will be taken off the pc ( again )
To me the problem sounds, as you say, like kids, you can't be to sure though, let us know how it goes :tu:


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