What is pop/rock/indie
 

While a lot of music is easy to define (Rap for example) I do not really know how to define Rock, Pop, Indie, Urban (easy when you hear it, but how would you define it?) How do songs get sorted into these sections? Coldplay were indie, then rock but now i hear them defined as pop. Is pop just popular rock?

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Rock tends to feature harder guitars with less emphasis on melody. Pop often relies on melody with 'easy on the ear' lyrics and beat, and indie is actually a term to describe the record label but is more used to define music with swirling guitars (often accoustic/slide).

I think.

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'urban' doesn't really mean anything imho, and i find it very diffcult not to look down on anyone using the term... :erm: it's often bandied about as being synonymous with 'of black origin', but thats a pretty wide definition!

maybe the record label will specifically define their bands, but record shops just seem to guess (and often get it spectacularly wrong, especially whn it comes to metal!)

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Arent Indies Independant Record Label bands?

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i'd say they've always been a bit of all of those...
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yep, thats one definition...

the more usual definition involves a whiny form of rock purveyed by persons badly in need of washing their hair :D

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Indie (IIRC) relates to the record label that the band is releasing under.

If it isn't one of the big/establishd labels then it is probably an "independent" one, hence "Indie".

Here's a good defnition

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I define it all as... "cr*p" ;)

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I'm sure everyone likes your taste in music as well ;)

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agreed. and don't even get me started on emo...

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I like all music provided it is good music..I see so little point in pigeon holing music in this way-save as a means of helping record stores to classify thousands of records a month.Frankly defining some records in a group can't always work..what is one man's jazz is something else to another person.

It's like separating all the timetable subjects up into separate lessons..when in reality they are all connected to each other.No music without mathematics,every flower follows geometric principles,english is vital for maths and CDT requires art,design,maths,IT,science and english.

So I just ignore the labels and buy what I like...Which has never included any of the talent show contestants. :)

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Recently, I've gotten into shoegazing

List according to wikipedia ;)

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Yeah maybe not... but it is a personal thing though. I don't like it, some people do, so what? ;)

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Okay, so I may have "I hate Coldplay" in my sig at the moment, we'll ignore that for the moment ;), but that was my point, music is a personal taste. :)

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And I totally understand that. Hence me saying:

"I define it as "crap""

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My bloody Valentine were brilliant. Proper Indie rock :)

I was partial to a bit of grebo in the past as well ;)

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My point, subtly put, was what's crap to you, may by the bee's knees to someone else and vice versa. It is not necessarily crap, it's just that you do not like that genre. :)
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I just could not get into the wonder stuff and carter usm. I didn't like them.

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I liked Sheriff Fatman by CUSM. Pop Will Eat Itself were cool. Lemmy of course is the head Grebo :)

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What was the size of a cow though? ;)

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Yer I know. Why are we even bothering arguing about it when we agree :)

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I remember indie *sigh* , they still have an indie night at a nightclub near me, tis great, playing all those bands that dont exist anymore :( Still fun though :)
Indie is refered to the label, but it kinda evolved into a sound too, some people would say that oasis, blur, pulp and all those were the height of indie, but its hard to say. Kaiser Cheifs i would say are indie, but its all down to who you ask.

Pop is popular music, but you could also say that now has a defined sound, like kylie and all those kind of people.

Rock is rock man \m/ :D

I think as far as coldplay are concerned they were indie but have now moved on to other things.

As for emo...i have nothing to say, it leaves me speachless and slightly ill :erm:
Theres so many genres now, it confusses me, a friend of mine is a little emo kid, bwess her. She tells me of emo hardcore screamo, and other random made up words put together that are meant to be something...maybe im getting to old and losing touch with the kids of today, haha! :Yikes:

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I thought that was some sort of fetish...! :naughty: :D

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-Lots of Guitars, heavy sound.

- actaully and abbreviation for 'popular music', so technically whatever's happening at the time.

- short for 'independant label'. Lots of bands with the same kind of sounds were on these smaller labels, hence the tag 'indie music'. Stereophonics are on an indie label, but you wouldn't call them 'indie' music.

New style of r'n'b, garage, drum and bass etc etc.

Coldplay are on EMIs label, therefore not 'Indie'. They're basically pop - popular music. :)

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You've really got to leave your work, at work you know ;) :D

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Problem is, I work from home...!! :disturbd:

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i would. but then my knowledge of genres is generally based around 'punk', 'ska', 'metal' or 'other' :D

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I wouldn't call them Indie either, not in the style of music the term "indie" has become. Pop-rock maybe :shrug:
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You need to get away then ;)

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i suppose i consider indie to be what i would imagine a stereotypical 'indie-kid' would listen to, rghtly or wrongly...

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I'm an "indie-kid", but of the late '80's/early '90's. A lot of what people call indie now, is, to me, just a re-hash of earlier stuff. :shrug:

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But Pop music is usually applied to the easy and cheap style of music (i.e Spice girls, busted etc etc). What are these bands classed as if they were not popular? Pop is usually just manufactured music. Also I have heard soft rock songs, they are classed us rock even though they are not heavy. U2 and Oasis are examples

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Pop is for stupid little kids!
And there is nothing wrong with coldplay!
Bring back Carter USM, PWEI, they were class and very clever and political.
So are what Iron maiden then as the are under EMIS wing????
You cannot say that about labels, the only reason they go to a label like that is because of the deal they got, and Iron maiden have been with EMI for over 20+ and you cannot call them poppy now can you???
Even the kids like the same stuff as us: Marillion [rock, not progressive,] Kiaser chiefs, tons of rock and metal but not pop that is rubbish [just think westlife!!!!]

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Like Orangebird said, pop music is popular music. It's just unfortunate that a lot of popular music in the charts now is manufactured crap.