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XK1337 01-06-2005 19:28

NTL shell account?
 
Hello, I have been reading about these forums for a while but just decided to sign up.

I wanted to know if NTL provides a shell account? and if so what is my username and password?

Thanks in advance :)

Paul K 01-06-2005 19:33

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Shell account? Might want to explain what you mean there.
The user name for the main broadband account is normally the name of the person on the account/ bill followed by @ntlworld.com
eg. bill.payer@ntlworld.com
User names and passwords are normally sent out in a letter with a "welcome pack".
If by shell account you mean something like this then I think the answer is no.

SLM 01-06-2005 19:39

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Is that shell as in the petrol station?????:welcome: to the site btw.

XK1337 01-06-2005 19:42

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Right ok thanks for the information. I was just wandering because i have my own computer network at home, consisting of 10 computers (of which 2 contain VITAL information) and i was reading an article on network security and it said you can test your own network security out but you need a shell account.
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Originally Posted by SLM
Is that shell as in the petrol station?????:welcome: to the site btw.

lol no cheers for the wam welcome! read my post above!

SLM 01-06-2005 19:44

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Try speaking to an ntl business sales person they might be able to help more I do not think you could get a ntl home bb conection

Paul K 01-06-2005 19:51

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XK1337
Right ok thanks for the information. I was just wandering because i have my own computer network at home, consisting of 10 computers (of which 2 contain VITAL information) and i was reading an article on network security and it said you can test your own network security out but you need a shell account.
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Originally Posted by SLM
Is that shell as in the petrol station?????:welcome: to the site btw.

lol no cheers for the wam welcome! read my post above!

If you want to test your network security you could just post your IP address lol ;) Could always post in the IT area, we have a number of very knowledgable people on the board that might be able to suggest something.

Paul 01-06-2005 19:57

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XK1337
I wanted to know if NTL provides a shell account? and if so what is my username and password?

No. Basically all you get is disk space. No shell access, no serverside scripting etc.

dragon 01-06-2005 19:57

Re: NTL shell account?
 
ahh a shell account Aka command line access to a server via ssh

most hosts will not allows these due to the potential of abuse.

as far as i know this includes NTL

Chris W 01-06-2005 19:59

Re: NTL shell account?
 
btw you should only have 3 computers max connected to an ntl connection... so i hope you don't have all 10 connected to the internet ;)

XK1337 01-06-2005 20:03

Re: NTL shell account?
 
lol ok thanks for all the replies guys.

dragon 01-06-2005 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeybreath
btw you should only have 3 computers max connected to an ntl connection... so i hope you don't have all 10 connected to the internet ;)

not sure ntl would know either way unless you tell them :confused: wouldnt they just see the router ;)

Graham M 01-06-2005 20:05

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeybreath
btw you should only have 3 computers max connected to an ntl connection... so i hope you don't have all 10 connected to the internet ;)

Oh shoosh, i have 4 and sometimes 4 ;) :p How would they know anyway if all they see is one MAC/IP combination. You get the same bandwidth available anyways. I beleive that Plus net provide web space with Shell access if you request it; however as long as you are using a good firewall you shouldnt have any problems, if you are using a router the only thing you really have to worry about is outbound traffic.

dragon 01-06-2005 20:08

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeybreath
btw you should only have 3 computers max connected to an ntl connection... so i hope you don't have all 10 connected to the internet ;)


Is that actally enforced by ntl :confused:

i mean assuming your not maxing out the connection 24/7 do they really care about how many computers you reallt have on the connection ?

or is it one of them things they put in the TOS but dont actally enforce.

can't see them kicking off paying customers just becasue they have a few to many pcs connected :Yikes: unless you was phaps causing extremly high levels of traffic?

Paul 01-06-2005 20:21

Re: NTL shell account?
 
It's a daft condition, I have never heard of it being inforced, and in fact, I can see no way they could tell. Like you say, as long as the connection is not being stressed, I don't see what relevance it is, or indeed, what business of ntl's it is.

dragon 01-06-2005 20:30

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
It's a daft condition, I have never heard of it being inforced, and in fact, I can see no way they could tell. Like you say, as long as the connection is not being stressed, I don't see what relevance it is, or indeed, what business of ntl's it is.

can stess the connection with one pc though :p:

grandmaster 02-06-2005 10:08

Re: NTL shell account?
 
I have a NTL BB account.

But i also have a laptop can i use the pay as you go dial up service using my current bb username and password?

Or do i have to re register for dial up access?

slimshady 02-06-2005 10:45

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grandmaster
I have a NTL BB account.

But i also have a laptop can i use the pay as you go dial up service using my current bb username and password?

Or do i have to re register for dial up access?

afaik - you would need to register another account with ntl or another provider. Personally I would use something like Virgin.net or Tesco.net as they are on ntl's network so you won't need to go flicking smtp server setttings etc....
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Originally Posted by XK1337
Right ok thanks for the information. I was just wandering because i have my own computer network at home, consisting of 10 computers (of which 2 contain VITAL information) and i was reading an article on network security and it said you can test your own network security out but you need a shell account.

Are all these machines on private or public addresses. If they are on private addresses then from outside you will only be able to check the security of the machine or box with the public address i.e. a NAT router.

If you just want to a simple port scan then why not dialup using another PC, and install something like SuperScan and scan your systems like that?

jonifen 02-06-2005 13:00

Re: NTL shell account?
 
I have 4 computers on a network, but only 3 are ever in use at the same time (how can I use a laptop AND a desktop at the same time?!)

As for shell account... you can telnet into your webspace using your primary account details (I did this to remove a directory I had managed to break by uploading a .htaccess file. Dont think you get any other facilities on there other than sending ftp commands though. Infact, it was a while ago, so it might've just been the ftp client on command line... cant remember to be sure, I'll try again tonight and post if it is telnet/ssh access.

If you get caught using this type of access for non-webspace reasons, you're likely to get a slap (or in trouble for going against the AUP) and these types of activity are usually logged for tracking things like warez and non-authorised people attempting to get access etc.

Best option though - use a mate's computer at their house and try it from there!

slimshady 02-06-2005 13:06

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonifen
As for shell account... you can telnet into your webspace using your primary account details

You won't get shell access to your ntl webspace!!!!

You might with a web hosting provider however.

jonifen 02-06-2005 13:12

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slimshady
You won't get shell access to your ntl webspace!!!!

You might with a web hosting provider however.

reading on throughout my post you will see I said it was probably ftp access through command prompt which you can do on EVERY ftp service as both Windows and Linux have command prompt ftp clients.

jonifen 02-06-2005 22:02

Re: NTL shell account?
 
I would edit my previous post, but I do not have the ability to do so.

It was the ftp command prompt. I was getting confused with the ssh access I have to a linux box I help admin for a mate. Sorry for the misleading post earlier... but to stress, it was just ftp access.

slimshady 03-06-2005 11:01

Re: NTL shell account?
 
Almost forgot good site to test your firewall/security

Shields up which is on www.grc.com.


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