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You've won a holiday.....
We keep getting these nuisance calls. When I pick the phone up there is a long recorded message going on about how I've won a holiday, etc. The number is withheld.
I am signed up to the telephone preferential service so that doesn't seem to be the answer. Is there anything I can do about this? Andrew |
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I believe you can block ALL 'number withheld' calls. Otherwise, I'm afraid it is just a case of putting the phone down on them.
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Report the calls to TPS with as much info as you can and ask them to deal, if need be listen to the full message and glean any phone numbers or url's.
I have found the TPS to be pretty good at stopping the calls if you give them enough to go on. |
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I had one of these the other day, but the weird thing was that, seeing as both Me and Mrs Nug were at work, the entire message recorded on my answering machine :disturbd:
We're signed up with the TPS so I just gave them all the details - so far, that's the only one we've had. |
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Yep - I've had several - report them to your local Trading Standards, the police (in Essex they have a seperate area to deal with this as it's a huge problem atm) and ICSTIS. I reported one last November (along with several other people) and I got an email back from ICSTIS a few months ago, saying they had bought legal action on the company making the calls, they were given a £30,000 fine and were banned from operating.
Of course they probably started operating again under another name........ :rolleyes: |
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I have call divert and divert most calls to my mobile most of the time. My mobile rang only yesterday, it was a 'Diverted Call' but it was a private number calling and it was a similar claim, that I had won an holiday. I just cancelled the call, this is the benefit of call divert, esp to a mobile, as with a landline, if you hang up, they are still on the line. :)
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Wasn't there a warning going around about these messages, where it says: "to claim your prize press 1, if you wish to reject you prize press 2", and when you press either button, it diverts the call and reverses the charge on you, so you pay a fortune for it?
Be on the safe side, never press a button it asks for, just hang straight up. |
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We've just been blitzed recently:
CLID Date Time Message 08701242495 07/05/2005 17:51 none 08701242495 08/05/2005 13:45 none 08701242495 08/05/2005 16:02 none 08701242495 08/05/2005 16:33 none 08701242495 08/05/2005 17:10 none 08701242495 09/05/2005 08:26 none 08701242495 09/05/2005 18:38 none 08701242495 09/05/2005 20:40 none 08701242495 10/05/2005 08:25 none 08701242495 10/05/2005 17:11 none 08701242495 10/05/2005 18:04 none 08701242495 10/05/2005 20:11 none 08701242495 10/05/2005 20:22 none 08701242495 11/05/2005 08:41 none 08701242495 11/05/2005 18:38 none 08701242495 11/05/2005 19:33 none 08701242495 11/05/2005 19:51 none 08701242495 12/05/2005 08:40 none 08701242495 12/05/2005 17:24 none 08701242495 12/05/2005 19:58 none 08701242495 12/05/2005 20:25 none WITHELD 12/05/2005 20:36 none 08701242495 13/05/2005 08:39 none 08701242495 13/05/2005 17:19 none 08701242495 13/05/2005 19:29 none 08701242495 13/05/2005 20:20 none 08701242495 14/05/2005 08:10 none 08701242495 14/05/2005 10:37 none 08701242495 14/05/2005 14:39 none 08701242495 14/05/2005 15:27 none 08701242495 14/05/2005 16:30 none 08701242495 14/05/2005 17:10 none 08701242495 15/05/2005 10:12 none 08701242495 15/05/2005 11:17 none WITHELD 15/05/2005 19:25 none 08701242495 16/05/2005 08:30 none 08701242495 16/05/2005 17:08 none 08701242495 16/05/2005 18:22 none 08701242495 17/05/2005 08:25 none WITHELD 17/05/2005 09:33 none 08701242495 17/05/2005 17:06 none 08701242495 17/05/2005 19:07 none WITHELD 17/05/2005 20:02 none 08701242495 18/05/2005 08:33 none 08701242495 18/05/2005 18:39 none 08701242495 18/05/2005 20:20 none 08701242495 19/05/2005 13:30 none INTERNATIONAL 19/05/2005 16:38 You have won a prize, press 9 INTERNATIONAL 19/05/2005 16:54 You have won a prize, press 9 We are registered with the TPS so, yesterday, I reported it to the Information Commisioner: http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/ ...and we wait to see what happens. |
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Beware of new telephone fraud We have been advised of a new telephone fraud in operation and this applies to incoming calls only whether it is on your landline or your mobile. This fraud is now so rampant that even BT is being forced to do more to take action against these rogue operators. Here is a brief description of how this fraud is perpetrated and you need to know what you can do to avoid becoming a victim of this scam. Just remember if anyone asks this is where you heard it first. ALPHATALK.COM Firstly, your phone will ring as normal. Upon answering the phone, you will hear a recorded message congratulating you on winning either an all expenses trip to an exotic location or some other lucrative prize(it can also be a cash prize). You will be asked to press 9 to hear further details. As soon as you press the digit 9 you will be connected to a premium rate telephone line that will charge you a horrendous level of money on a per minute basis. At this stage even if you hang up it will not disconnect the call and will continue to charge you for up to a minimum of 5 minutes. The call will be designed to keep you on the phone for as long as possible in order for you to confirm confidential details in order to claim the prize. By now you may have guessed the fact that there is no prize money due to you. The only people who have successfully claimed their prize is the unscrupulous service provider who may have even charged you up to £20.00 per minute for the privilege of listening to their recording. This has taken many people by surprise once they have received their telephone bills. The best action to take when you receive these calls is to immediately hang up and not follow the dubious instructions. Just remember there is no such thing as a †˜free lunch'. These companies operate from outside the UK and therefore not governed by UK regulators and legislation. There appears to be other variations of this theme. We have also heard of people receiving calls on their lines from individuals claiming to be BT engineers conducting a test on the line and asking for the unsuspecting recipient to press 9. BT has warned consumers not to dial 9 for anyone as this is not a normal procedure. Scams on Mobile Phones A whole series of similar scams are operating on mobile phones as well which you need to be vigilant against. The most common ones are as follows: 1) You will receive a missed call from a number beginning with 07090ââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚¦Ã¢à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦Bewar e of all mobile numbers beginning with this code. They will charge you a premium rate and will be outside of any free call allowance that you may have for calling different networks. 2) You will receive a text message saying that someone you know would like to meet you for a date. Before you let the adrenalin take over with passionate and impure thoughts filling your brain, please relax as this is only a con designed to get you to reply to the text message which will charge you at a premium rate. Please feel free to share this information with your nearest and dearest so they do not fall prey to these telephone vultures who will always find new ways of alleviating us from our hard earned cash. |
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yawn . . .
The tones generated by pressing '9' bear no resemblance to the 'charging tones' used in some countries. Here in the UK charging is done by 'exchange and/or distance' and not by tones as in the US and certain other countries. So the information given above is yet again untrue. |
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07090 is not a mobile phone code. It's a code used to identify "personal numbers"
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The problem with these calls is that there is a "weasel" in the TPS rules which excludes ones where they're not trying to sell something, but just let you know you've "won" a prize.
Of course it turns out that you have to pay for meals or go to a presentation (that turns out to be a hard sell) etc It's just a pain :( |
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__________________ BUGZME: :welcome: to Cable Forum, as has already been pointed out, the information you posted above is (unfortnately) not quite correct. However, thanks for trying to provide a warning for others - I understand your intentions. Raist. |
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Is it an urban myth or something a good phone phreaker could implement? Remember all control, routing and charging signals pass along those wires as tones that anyone with the right equipment can duplicate (anyone got a 2280 Hz generator if that is the control frequency still used?).
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Well, here's my uninformed guess as to why they want you to press a number.
The voice is obviously recorded and the dialling is probably computer generated. So, apart from the phone bill (which, being American, will be quite small), this will cost the caller virtually nothing. Only when someone gullible presses a key are they connected to a relatively expensive real person who can do the hard sell. It's all about targeting resources well. :2cents: |
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I don't think it's that sinister to be honest. I think it's a case of randomly dialing numbers in an area code and all gullible people will press '9'. They can then simply register that number as being a live number in a database and can then sell it on to anyone who needs it. I think the people who press 9 are just opening the floodgates to cold callers.
And by the way hi everyone this is my first post here :) :erm: |
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Today, being a Public holiday, the bowls club, of which I am a member had a members day to enjoy a game of bowls for small prizes to be followed by afternoon tea.
During the afternoon the outside telephone bell rang and I went to answer it............Yes you were right, it was a call informing me I had won a holiday ! |
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which is why i get all my ringtones of the internet and then either use bluetooth or sd card to get them on my phone... ;) btw with 1 i dont know if even if i did fall for it wether it would work because i have my mobile barred from making premium rate calls... but then i have no intention of dialing some random 07090 number after all if its a genuine caller and they needed to contact me theyed leave a voicemail or try calling later. |
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I received a missed call from the number 07011391968 which is also an odd looking number - appears to be something similar. The phone didnt ring by the way, and if it did, it must've only been for a split second.
I dont call them back, same as I rarely call any missed calls back unless its family - if its urgent, they'll call back :) As for anything through our landline, we have *227# enabled to block all withheld numbers from calling through. We dont get any of these types of calls - I cant even phone home from work, so at least I know it works. |
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it might not work but its worth a try... it should make the line you are calling from send its CLI (caller line identity) so its like the opposite to dialing 141 (which is withhold number) when you call a number ;) |
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Oops... so it could have been something genuine?
Can a mod edit that as I no longer have an edit button on it :erm: Sorry whoever that number belongs to :D Although, I'm sure nobody is gonna try phoning it anyway lol - I certainly wasnt going to. |
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The number range starting 070113 appears to be allocated to Allied Telecommunications Ltd and they appear to have been involved in a number of scams already.
Number range allocation: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi.../?a=87101#pers Some news about Allied Telecommunications Ltd: http://networks.silicon.com/telecoms...9129262,00.htm Search on Allied Telecommunications Ltd: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...unications-ltd Mobile number network checker: http://mnnc.net/ |
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I rather enjoy recieving this calls - lots of fun to be had. Here's my latest recording of the holiday one:
http://www.kdkprankcalls.com/hostedp...IPHolidays.mp3 :D |
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