TV Torrents
 

Don't know if this is dodgy ground, but I'm wondering if anyone's got any good Bittorrent sites for TV programmes. I've managed to miss last week's Dr Who and 24, so I want to catch them!

I've previously used tvtorrents.tv, but it seems to have shut down.

Mods please bear in mind that it's legal to download TV programmes once they've been broadcast in this country -- I'm not asking for films or music or warez...

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i thought the programs were still copyright of the owner :confused:

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Really? OH NO! The goverment are tracking us, RUN!!!

*jumps though window

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www.torrentspy.com is pretty good.

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:confused: :confused: :confused:

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Exactly what i was going to recommend :tu:

I search on torrentspy.com, mybittorrent.com and isohunt.com. I'd have a look whats indexed on snarf-it and pirate bay too.

You can get the doctor who eps fast off alt.binaries.drwho on the ntl news server.

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www.btefnet.com

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www.filelist.org is a good site i use...

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Didn't realise that. :)

Anyway, www.btefnet.net will have Dr Who and 24. :) Another good one is www.uknova.com.

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Another vote for torrentspy.com here, I get my 24 episodes from there. :)

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Errr, no it isn't :erm:

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why is this different from taping an episode, for personal use??

afaik it is only distributing the stored material, for gain, that is a problem?

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Perhaps you could provide evidence of this, because I find that hard to believe.
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I don't think "gain" comes into it, but I await the evidence.

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see you down the 'boot sale' in the morning ;)

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Another vote for www.uknova.com!

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"Sorry, user limit reached. Please try again later."

:bigcry:

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Surely you don't actually believe that?

There is a very limited provision that says you can record a broadcast or cable transmission exclusively for the purpose of viewing/listening at a more convenient time.

Copying the program for, say, sharing, is clearly not included in this. By downloading or possessing a copy through BT you'll be in breach of S.16, S.17, S.23 Copyright Designs & Patents Act.

Maximum sentence: 2 years ;)

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How on earth do you get in?

I click "torrents" and it asks me for a login. I click "signup" and it says "its not for public use".

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Elite Torrents - it's not easy to become a member, but it really does have its benefits.
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UKNova is periodically open for new membership from time to time... it's kinda a case of being in the right place at the right time.
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Tristan, is this the one you're after...?

Doctor Who 2005 S01E06

Org. Date : 30.04.2005
Rls. Date : 30.04.2005
Source : PDTV
Genre : Sci-Fi
Ep. Name : Dalek

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Ahh cheers mate.

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For TV torrents the only place to go is

www.tvtorrents.com

and the latest Dr Who is first on the list :)

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It is illegal to download them once they have been broadcast and actually taping anything from the TV and Radio is copyright infringement....anyone remember when they used to put the high pitched whistles in the songs on the radio sometimes? that was to stop people recording them. Just because they have been played on tv does not mean the copyright ends - its accepted people do record tv shows etc but these people are allowed by law to watch them, shoving them on the net for other in other countries is not allowed however....but who cares if they are there then tough lol

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Although it's still illegal, I don't see it as being as bad, morally, as downloading something like a movie.

You generally have to pay to see a film legally (cinema, rental/retail DVD & VHS), whereas TV programmes are simply...shown on TV. OK, if you download a show, you are missing out on the adverts (which is how they're funded), but, hey, who watches the ads on TV anyway.


But, nonetheless, can we please have no further clickable links to torrent sites please :)

It is apparently OK for a URL to be posted, so long as it is not a clickable link.

I've gone through the thread, & made all the existing URLs "un-clickable".

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true, it still is illegal, but if i download something showed on the bbc, and i pay the license fee... i have a clean conscience :)

good plan, but might be worth turning off the auto-tag-adding thing then, or links will have to be obfuscated...

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I think you may have misunderstood, when I said 'personal use' I meant it to be analogous to taping a transmission for later viewing.

I didn't intend to mean copying for sharing, as that would constitute 'gain', in my opinion. Although using torrents to download is questionable, on this point, as they rely on people sharing, while copying, to work.

One thing which eases my conscience, somewhat, on the last point, is that the repeats etc are shown on BBC3, which I don't get, as an analogue user.

So, I did download the 'Dalek' episode, to watch again, but I won't be selling copies down the pub ;)

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Yes, I know that's you meant - it's still illegal even if you don't share it though - just making or possessing the copy is enough to break the law .... ;)

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www.btefnet.net is where I go for my TV torrents

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As far as I know you are correct, in fact this debate has been around for ages, certainly since the introduction of the 'compact cassette'. I can remember people questioning the legality of having a 'copy for the car', for example.

In the context of the thread, my personal opinion is that one copy, for ones own use, of already broadcast material, is ok, and it is the law that is an ass :p: :)

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Actually, from what I remeber of my law lectures (which admittedly were a helluva long time ago now) recording shows to vhs for personal use is legal in the UK. I can only remember the US case that set this precedent (Universal City Studios vs Sony aka the Betamax Case) but there's a similar UK case that covers us too.

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Recording shows for personal use is legal.

Sharing them (or acquiring copies which you personally have not recorded) via the internet, is not.

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Yes, although the only 'personal use' allowed is that you can watch/listen to them at a more convenient time (i.e. once ;))

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Thanks all for the suggestions guys. Have now got both episodes I missed :)

As to the other debate this thread has created... what would have happened if I'd knocked on my next-door neighbour's door, and asked him if I could borrow the tape of Dr Who he recorded last saturday?

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It is illegal. Auntie owns the sole distribution rights. Your nieghbour giving it to you counts as distribution. Thats why you are allowed to copy it for back up, or later view. You aren't giving it to anyone else so it isn't distribution.

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Indeed.

For the record, the law says:

70. The making for private and domestic use of a recording of a broadcast or cable programme solely for the purpose of enabling it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time does not infringe any copyright in the broadcast or cable programme or in any work included in it.

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That does not seem to prohibit you lending it to a neighbour for their domestic use (viewing at a more convienient time). :)

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The problem is that all these laws are different now that the internet is here. Its amazing to think of a time when the internet did not exist. People not being send messages, view each other, publish material, get instant access to the worlds knowledge.

Either way, the internet is not fully covered and if you are only downloading rather than seeding then it would be hard for a case to be brought against you

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realistically, if you stopped your upload, how long do you think your download would last?

- a genuine question, btw, I did my first ever torrent download yesterday, it said something like share ratio = 132%, which sounded good? :angel:

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Yes it does - that wouldn't be 'private'.

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good call alot of uk shows i did not think anyone ripped.

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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5705142.html

btefnet and other bt sites being sued!! thats bad for them

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:notopic: ...but I remember before the internet existed. I remember when you used a modem to connect to a bbs, and the modem was only 19k.

I tried telling my son the other day that when I was his age, there were only 3 channels on tv and it didn't run 24 hours a day. He couldn't believe that it would switch off at night, or that BBC2 would switch off in the afternoon, or that I'd spend ages watching the test card waiting for the kids' shows to start again.

He refuses to believe however that you used to be able to drive your car to a petrol station and somebody would come outside and fill it up for you, without you having to get out of your car!

...any, back on topic now.

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Yup, that's good. It means you have given 1/3rd more than you have downloaded. The unwritten rule is the minimum it should be is that you upload as much as you download, ie 1:1, and you did 1:1.3 so that's good.

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with all the torrent sites going down time to learn how irc and the news groups work :)

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Recently Ive started to use torrents less and less.. i now download almost all of my stuff using www.streamload.com...

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Blimey, is streamload still going? I remember they used to have a freebie account that was good for transferring ebooks and other small-ish files. I never used the paid account though.

Is there much *ahem* questionable stuff on Streamload then?

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i used to use streamload while i was on the uni connection (500KB/sec, they never got round to blocking it ;)). don't use it now though. find a good forum though, and everything that's ever been on a torrent/fasttrack/gnutella network is sitting waiting for you :)

for tv, try unrealtorrents dot com :erm:

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yeah..its a good service... very good speeds... and there is a heck of a lot of questionable stuff if you find the right forums as Dave Stones said... it's like torrents if u can join a good forum, u can have everything u want... but some places are harder to join... like uknova isn't the easiest bit torrent site to join...

I personally have a standard account the £5 per month one... u get 10gig which isn't too bad...

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Just to show how alive the TV Torrent scene is:
Episode 22 of the well-known show "24" was shown last night on Fox at 9pm (US Pacific Time - 8hrs behind us).
It had appeared on Torrent websites less than an hour after it aired and by the time I got up at 7am British time I was downloading it.

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But purely so that you have a backup copy for the boxed set that you will buy when it becomes available, right ;)

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Er, yeah...something like that.

(Actually I don't own a TV - I just download what I want to watch)

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Hush man, they'll hear you!!!

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Wow, speaking of 24 Ep22 - that was rather good.
Not as good as Ep21 but still enjoyable.
For some reason I really want a girlfriend like that the "evil woman with the gun" near the end. :erm:
I'm attracted to nasty bitchy women, I don't quite know why :disturbd: .

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Woah... that's a little bit more information than I want to know. :shocked:

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Obviously venting then ;)

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I know this is a late reply to a MUCH earlier post, but I thought I'd add some insight to this question about whether it is legal to have copies of programming that was broadcast over the airwaves.

In actuality it is entirely legal to record such programming, the reason is simple. The FCC declared back in the 1950s when television first started that the airwaves were public domain, and in doing so absolved the networks of having to pay any fees for use of those airwaves. But in return, anything that is transmitted over the public airwaves is deemed free and public domain. I happen to work for a TV station and have verified this to be true. Therefore any television, radio, or cable broadcasts that are carried across the airwaves are free for private use, provided that you do not intend to redistribute such programming for monetary gain. TV stations have to pay a licensing fee to air programs that do not originate from their stations, but they do so because they are in turn making money through program adverstisements from local businesses.

In short, if you can grab it from the public airwaves, its yours. ;)

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interesting point but bittorrent isn't the public airwaves.. also as you download it you are also seeding it to other torrent users and most people leave torretns running until they have uploaded the same amountthey have downloaded so it is being distributed and not just grapped from the public domain

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That is, if you don't mind me saying, a load of trolling cr@p. ;)

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Well thats elitetorrents.org gone now.

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There's talk of it either being a hack or a joke. But just speculation at this point.

Especially as that FBI message has not been seen before. It's usually the MPAA.

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ive looked around their DNS has been hacked.

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How can you tell it looks quite real to me

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it does look real, their irc channel states DNS has been hacked.

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i stand corrected it was a raid:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ie_downloading

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Bittorrent now has a torrent search engine, very much google looking.

http://www.bittorrent.com/

Azureus has also been updated, 2.3.0.2 released today, like the idea of the decentralised database i must say - http://azureus.sourceforge.net/whatsnew.php