Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

I cant get a connection through the normal specified proxy i've had to switch to a Manchester one.

This has been going on for about a week?

Anybody else struggle to browse in Bury / Oldham / Bolton?

cheers

bubby

ps. The proxy servers are all rubbish IMO:mad:

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Dont get me started on proxies i can confirm it is not proxys but the WCCP routing software that falls over time and time and time again.

The proxies are now very good just the routing software thats still rubbish

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Care to explain :dozey:

Really ..... and when did you become a Cisco engineer then :erm:

BTW badboybubby, have you actually reported this to ntl ?

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

yes its been reported twice

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

I think its been explained many times :)

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

ok then,


why cant i get any websites unless i specify a proxy server?

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

coz your poxy has fallen over :D

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Shocking people asking for explanation of whats wrong with proxies.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Like all equipment, proxy servers sometimes fail. Perhaps you should read his statement again "The proxy servers are all rubbish IMO". Such a blanket statement could equally be labelled "rubbish".

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

You honestly think that if WCCP had fallen over we'd leave it for a week considering the ton of complaints you'd expect it to generate from all of those people who don't know how to specify a cache?!?!

Assuming this chap connects via Oldham think you'll find he uses the same ones you and th'eng do m'dear ;)

Will check on the status of both Manchester and Baguley when I'm next in work though, I've an idea of a potential issue, which is completely unrelated to WCCP.

Those wishing to diagnose from home may want to acquire a WCCP manual, some general Cisco books and a login to the routers running WCCP before they judge on the nature of any faults. The past is not a guide to the future.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Listen my friend, for 37.99 a month I reserve the right to call anything I want 'rubbish', I am not happy with having a proxy server in the first place, never mind having to switch it over every couple of weeks because it falls down.

bbb

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

You had one specified before or were using the transparent caching?

Oldham should be using Manchester anyway.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Yep, Oldham uses the manc ones.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Ignition is there any news on the rwin increase been rolled out? It was done for one area and then we got told it would be rolled out, this was about a month ago.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

All NetApps run the same config, apart from IP address and name.

Just to upset certain people I have checked and WCCP shows no signs of issues at all in Manchester, as in I can see it doing its' job, requests going in, getting redirected, data being served back to clients.


To say that one user having issues means the entire lot is broken is absurd, we'd see WAY more complaints both on here and officially if most of Manchester's browsing went pop.

As a resolution to the OPs fault may I politely suggest stop specifying caches and leave it transparent. There's actually redundancy in the number of caches there right now which means one can go pop and the others are capable of handling the load. If you insist on specifying your own caches, then complaining when you actually have to use the caches assigned to your local area it's your problem not mine. The caching is transparent for a reason, let it do its' job!

If the caches were that bad in your area where are all the complaints?! There are 14 of them so must be a hell of a lot of customers being served by them (2nd behind Nottingham's 15). Where are the complaints?! As Manchester has in your world been buggered for the past week I'd love to see where the tens of thousands of people with shafted browsing have gone to...

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

'Firetrap' posted in my original thread on the rwin issue that only 2 Inktomi proxies had been changed at that time and the others would follow afterwards, this was a month ago so hopefully they have been fixed.

You could try specifying the Inktomi proxies you use/are routed through and try downloading some files from USA servers - should show you pretty quickly if they are fixed or not.

cheers

Ian

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

The RWIN change was actually on the NetApp servers, this was rolled out the day after i posted my original message...

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

It doesn't entitle you to be rude.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Well the proxy servers in Leicester are still the low rwin setting so it isnt rolled out here.


Ignition, I hear you on your point over the lack of complaints, but complaints to CS and TS are not accurate ways of knowing proxy issues since a lot of the issues are short lived and as such fix themselves, also most NTL users are probably not even aware they going through proxies so just assume the problem is the website at the other end.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Hmm, obviously I missed your hilarious reply.

Paying £37.99 a month does not give you the "right" to make wild & inaccurate statements which have no actual basis in fact. Proxy servers do not "fall over" every couple of weeks, they are certainly not all "rubbish". Indeed, hundreds of thousands of people use them day in and day out - with little more than the odd problem overall. Such comments just make you look a bit silly.

ntl are not going to remove them, indeed they are expanding them, so if you don't like proxy servers then your only real choice is to move to another BB supplier (though not Freeserve or AOL, as they use them as well).

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

I'd severely disagree with that one, v v few non-technically minded people would think to blame the website at the other end, ntl is the internet to them, we control everything. Anything going wrong is ntl's fault.

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Recently I had to specify a proxy, according to a mate (cisco engineer) I was using transparent before, how come I have had to do this?
Are NTL phasing out direct acess?
Or are the websites the problem?
Or is it a problem on my end?

My browsing seems to be a bit slower now I've specified a proxy.

btw Im using manc-cache-14.server.ntli.net

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

Freeserve/Wanadoo no longer use Proxies.

I use AOL here sometimes on top of the NTL connection, I've *never* had the issues that I have with the NTL proxies - all sites load first time, all the time.

In fact when I was with Freeserve and suffered their proxies until they got rid of them I never had the same volume of problems I have with NTL.

Todays first site to play silly buggers with my default transparent proxy is news.bbc.co.uk - all the images are red x's - as usual switching proxies fixes the issue.....

Re: Proxy's not working in Oldham / Bury
 

eh? ntl isn't the internet?!
just kidding :)

I'm in Rochdale and have had no such problems - I would imagine I use the same central equipment as Oldham and Bury seeing as Rochdale is sat in the middle!