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McGraw 04-05-2005 17:13

Realtek AC97 issues
 
The mobo in my sig has an AC97 5.1 card buit in.

On the whole it works ok. I have it set up with a set of approx 3 years old Creative Cambridge Soundworks 5.1 speakers. It is the set with the black stick on twisty volume/balance control.

Using the mobo's audio test, they have always worked.

At first, playing Half life they only worked in centre channel.

I then got them (using different drivers) to work through the centre three.

I then got them (again diff drivers) to work in all 5 speakers in the Counter Strike Source audio test. However, there are still problems.

In games and films, the rear speakers just replicate the front ones.

They also crackle slighty every now and again.

They also play a highly distorted noise through the line in when the pc is turned off.

Testing in the gigabyte software produces perfect results?

What am I doing wrong?

Can anyone recommend the best version of drivers to use.

I am currently using the latest Gigabyte ones.

Cheers.

nffc 04-05-2005 17:34

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
AC97 is crap, get yourself a proper card. Like the Audigy (waits for Bifta to slag it off)- will get you better framerates etc as well as it's less CPU load.

AndrewJ 04-05-2005 17:51

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
My new pc has a Ac97 card capable of 6.1, the sound through it betters any soundcard I have ever had .

Then again it is only 5hours old :D

Electrolyte01 04-05-2005 17:57

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJames
My new pc has a Ac97 card capable of 6.1, the sound through it betters any soundcard I have ever had .

OK, benchmark your sound card using the sound tests in 3Dmark03 and post the FPS of each tests, which are:

No sounds
24 sounds
60 sounds

I bet your frames would drop by over 1/4 with 24 sounds, and 1/2 with 60 sounds ;)

nffc 04-05-2005 17:59

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJames
My new pc has a Ac97 card capable of 6.1, the sound through it betters any soundcard I have ever had .

Then again it is only 5hours old :D

Yeah well it still adds load to the CPU, and besides, /me likes the Audigy.

McGraw 04-05-2005 18:12

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
OK, I'm convinced and will be buying a new souncard.

Can you recommend me a good yet cheap and deally 5.1 solution.

I would like fancy effects if possible.

I wouldn't say no to external as I could have the box on my desk for inputs.

To be honest, I have boycotted Creative stuff for years and would like to keep it that way.

budwieser 04-05-2005 18:20

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
I have had an Audigy 2 for about 16 month`s and i think it`s brilliant.

As low as about £30 on ebay now i think.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...192089717&rd=1

mrlipring 04-05-2005 19:08

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
do creative cards still have problems with ide conflicts and data loss and all that nonsense?

AndrewJ 04-05-2005 19:15

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
I do not know but I had a Creative live 5.1 pci card on my old pc and it was ****e, the drivers was totally rubbish and I hated the goddamn thing.

Anyone able to point to a really good quality 7.1 card then as I may as well move onto 7.1 if I am to fit a sound card to my pc, as if its taking up valuable processor/ram power then I will fit a dedicated card and disable the AC97.

nffc 04-05-2005 19:26

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlipring
do creative cards still have problems with ide conflicts and data loss and all that nonsense?

Eh?
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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJames
I do not know but I had a Creative live 5.1 pci card on my old pc and it was ****e, the drivers was totally rubbish and I hated the goddamn thing.

Anyone able to point to a really good quality 7.1 card then as I may as well move onto 7.1 if I am to fit a sound card to my pc, as if its taking up valuable processor/ram power then I will fit a dedicated card and disable the AC97.

Not had a problem with me Audigy 2 ZS Platinum yet, rather good... :)

gooner4life 04-05-2005 19:28

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
I took my Audigy out and used my Onboard AC97 audio, it works through my Cambridge Soundworks 5.1 Surround set-up and if it affects my FPS its negligible I cant notice a difference, the Creative Drivers simply drove me crazy.

Electrolyte01 04-05-2005 19:40

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life
I took my Audigy out and used my Onboard AC97 audio, it works through my Cambridge Soundworks 5.1 Surround set-up and if it affects my FPS its negligible I cant notice a difference, the Creative Drivers simply drove me crazy.

I think you will find the Audigy is BETTER than the AC'97. If not, then you have a problem with your software somewhere.

Oh and by the way, what's wrong with the drivers? I'm using Creative's new OpenAL Audigy 2 ZS BETA drivers (yes beta) and I have no issues whats so ever.

AndrewJ 04-05-2005 19:51

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
looks like there new stuff is pretty A ok.

McGraw 05-05-2005 10:21

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
What issues do people have with the creative drivers?

I know they are supposed to take over your system.

AndrewJ 05-05-2005 10:42

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
I have it from loosing the 5.1 settings going back to 2.1 all he time, corrupt settings, refusing to boot getting errors on startup.

Problems within games of card not being recognised and having to await Creative to update the drivers, sound quality not being all it should, and just to rub it in the flipping card failing just as I was getting it sorted in my old pc.

Electrolyte01 05-05-2005 10:42

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McGraw
I know they are supposed to take over your system.

Where the hell did you hear that from? That is utter non-sense :erm:

McGraw 05-05-2005 11:30

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Perhaps I have been misinformed.

I thought creative were legendary for their poor drivers.

Electrolyte01 05-05-2005 11:49

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McGraw
Perhaps I have been misinformed.

I thought creative were legendary for their poor drivers.

As I have stated, I'm using their OpenAL BETA driver, and so is Ramrod. We havn't had a problem with it, except Ramrod can't get his extra panels to work (such as the EAX effects in Windows (isn't needed for games)) although they work for me.

McGraw 05-05-2005 11:53

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
They must have got their act together.

The amount of issues with their older 3d cards as well as Live stuff with VIA chipsets was frightening.

Bifta 05-05-2005 11:58

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McGraw
Perhaps I have been misinformed.

I thought creative were legendary for their poor drivers.

They are, 17 years on and the drivers are still pish.

Electrolyte01 05-05-2005 12:04

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Am I the only one who hasn't had a problem with their Audigy then? (bit shocking if so, I usually get the problems!) :erm:

nffc 05-05-2005 13:25

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Mine's fine, new drivers as well

Keytops 05-05-2005 14:31

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrolyte
Am I the only one who hasn't had a problem with their Audigy then? (bit shocking if so, I usually get the problems!) :erm:

You probably are - Google (groups) for Audigy Problems and be shocked. :dozey:

AndrewJ 05-05-2005 16:10

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
They are, 17 years on and the drivers are still pish.

Care to state your sources ?

I have only had 2 of there cards, and once they are working they are a nice card, however when they play up ( alot ) they are hell.

on topic though I believe someone asked for a good maker of a soundcard now while OCUK have had some really bad rep points for delivery and after care I myself have had not one single issue in over 20items ordered from them.

Even ordered one of there basic full systems for a family friend and I have to admit they was quick and prompt.

Anyways here is a good sound card selection i shall let the more knowledgeable chaps point into a good cost/quality card for yourself.

(p.s: I would fancy a nice 7.1 card ;) )

LINKY

Bifta 05-05-2005 16:33

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJames
Care to state your sources ?

I have only had 2 of there cards, and once they are working they are a nice card, however when they play up ( alot ) they are hell.

My sources? Try reading the creative support forums, it's a well known FACT. :rolleyes:

mrlipring 05-05-2005 17:16

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc
Eh?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ide+corruption

http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cf...WT051401003409

AndrewJ 05-05-2005 17:26

Re: Realtek AC97 issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
My sources? Try reading the creative support forums, it's a well known FACT. :rolleyes:

:dozey: good god.

Worst job of the day: Creative Soundcard techincal support call assistant. life expentancy 3 hours 45minutes.


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